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Chevy Volt gets rave reviews at debut in Tacoma
The News Tribune ^ | 10/10/10 | Kris Sherman

Posted on 10/10/2010 11:12:53 AM PDT by epithermal

Amped-up car enthusiasts and environmentally conscious drivers lined up Saturday in Tacoma for the national road tour debut of the Chevrolet Volt.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenewstribune.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: automotive; governmentmotors; greencrap; junk; volt; youpaidforthis
DEAN J. KOEPFLER/STAFF PHOTOGRAPHER - Car enthusiasts wait Saturday for a chance to test-drive the new Chevy Volt electric car at Griot’s Garage in Tacoma. GM billed the event as the kickoff for the “Volt Unplugged Tour,” a 3,400-mile cross-country caravan of Chevy Volts showcasing the cars to the public and media.


1 posted on 10/10/2010 11:12:55 AM PDT by epithermal
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To: epithermal

The new name is to be the Chevy Watt. As in “Watt were we thinking?”


2 posted on 10/10/2010 11:14:43 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: epithermal

I recall there was enthusiasm for the electric lawnmower when it was first unveiled as wekk,


3 posted on 10/10/2010 11:16:07 AM PDT by Tribemike1
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To: DaxtonBrown
Go Toyota!

Get lost government funded unions!

4 posted on 10/10/2010 11:16:37 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: epithermal

It is ‘unplugged’ because there sure isn’t anywhere the hell else to plug it it!


5 posted on 10/10/2010 11:20:15 AM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: epithermal

Cool! Now all the government has to do is figure out a way to let “THE RICH” keep enough of their own money to be able to purchase one of these expensive suckers.


6 posted on 10/10/2010 11:20:45 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Less than 30 days to go to election day. I'm giddier than a TV weatherman during hurricane season.)
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To: epithermal
General Motors bills the Volt as the “world’s first electric vehicle with extended-range capability.”

Fire up the fossil fuels and stop for restroom break only.

Perhaps the Amish have the right idea. /s

7 posted on 10/10/2010 11:22:28 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: epithermal
Anything “green” will automatically get great reviews and be hailed for it's awesomeness.

You can't be critical of anything “green.”

I'm sure they measured success and how great it is based on: safety (crash tests), reliability, cost, towing capacity, range, performance, interior space, trunk volume, slalom, braking, head and leg space, over all comfort, visibility out of the car...........

Products like this are successful and get great reviews because those rating them use an abstract concept of environmentalism in their assessment. Long gone are the days where an American would get on his knees and look at the underside of a car and how it's built or care about specs. Give it a nice color and name, the official approval of the green movement and the car will be the greatest thing since sliced bread, sort of like that POS Prius- a $26,000 car that had a poorly visible instrumentation, batteries with a very finite life expectancy, numerous design defects that led to recalls, A/C that turns off when at a red light, that can't tow, has little space, crappy acceleration........... But it too was “green” and was rated as this awesome machine.

8 posted on 10/10/2010 11:25:11 AM PDT by Red6 (IMHO)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Now all the government has to do is figure out a way to let “THE RICH” keep enough of their own money to be able to purchase one of these expensive suckers.

Lets not get crazy now...

When the rich reach the point of earning a dollar for every 5 dollars they pay into government perhaps then we can begin to talk "fair share" by beltway definition.

9 posted on 10/10/2010 11:26:32 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS
You really think people are ready to give up their Lexus for this piece of cr**.

Cuz I sure can't afford it.

10 posted on 10/10/2010 11:29:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: epithermal

I had a FORD Fusion as a rental while on travel this past week and was really impressed with it. The biggie was the interior fit/finish & materials which was easily on par with the imports.


11 posted on 10/10/2010 11:30:58 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: epithermal

I’m waiting to hear from Tallahassee.


12 posted on 10/10/2010 11:31:21 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Go Tampa Bay Rays! (And send Carl Crawford to Boston after you take the Series!))
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To: epithermal

I wonder if there was a trailer that can be hooked up and having a combination small diesel generator and also an axle driven alternator doubling over with dynamic braking to use regeneration into the battery bank.

Either that or 500 miles of extension cords.

This car will be a failure, nobody years from now will be able to afford to keep it on the road, first thing will be alternative batteries, homeboy backyard mechanics will be converting the car to use something else or the body will be stripped off and something else will be mounted, like something classic.

The Volt will be a modern day Pinto, its not collectible and will never be a classic, who saves worn out batteries?


13 posted on 10/10/2010 11:37:37 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: Red6
You can't be critical of anything “green.”

Exactly! I'm so sick of 'green' everything. Just the latest marketing ploy to recieve the Good Seal of Public Correctness approval. I fear what happens when, like your average stop-light, green turns to red.

14 posted on 10/10/2010 11:39:59 AM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: Sacajaweau
You really think people are ready to give up their Lexus for this piece of cr**.

Paying a total burden of 53% to government is enough for me, I'm NOT going to give Washington another dime by buying a GM.

It's time to stop digging and fill in the hole.

15 posted on 10/10/2010 11:41:00 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: epithermal

Obama’s “Voltswagon”, if you will.


16 posted on 10/10/2010 11:53:19 AM PDT by correctthought ("Communism is a temporary setback, on the road to freedom" - Liberty Prime)
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To: correctthought
Obama’s “Voltswagon”, if you will.

I won't.

17 posted on 10/10/2010 11:56:47 AM PDT by stboz
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To: correctthought

“Voltswagen” - I love it!


18 posted on 10/10/2010 11:58:10 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I’m waiting to hear from Tallahassee ...yeah and in winter.
19 posted on 10/10/2010 12:11:09 PM PDT by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: epithermal
Honda CR-Z get 31/37 mpg, is relatively slow and cornering is ordinary. The battery must be changed after 150,000 miles. The braking system is complicated and the parts are not subsidized by the Japanese and US governments.

By comparison, the 1984-90s Honda CRX Si came in 2 seconds faster, was a beastly joy all around the circuit and the gas mileage for the sports SI was 31/38 mpg. The 1.3 liter clocked in at 10.1 sec 0-60 and made 49/54 mpg.

Can we all admit that only nerds with bad dandruff, snobby elites, and the granola crowd would imagine hybrids and electric vehicles save gasoline, the planet, and are sexy sporty.
20 posted on 10/10/2010 12:27:57 PM PDT by egannacht (Inalienable rights granted by...)
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To: epithermal

So I’m not getting the advantage of electric over gasoline engines. To generate electricity, you still need fossil fuels, coal, etc., do you not? I could see if our electricity was generated by nuclear power plants but we don’t have too many of them there, unfortunately.


21 posted on 10/10/2010 12:45:40 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 55 days away from outliving Curly Howard)
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To: epithermal


Amped-up car enthusiasts and environmentally conscious drivers lined up
Saturday in Tacoma for the national road tour debut of the Chevrolet Volt.

Of course these weasels are “Amped-up”.
They know millions of American taxpayers that will never own a Volt
(regardless of income) PAID FOR THE D-MN THING!!!


22 posted on 10/10/2010 12:51:32 PM PDT by VOA
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To: epithermal

I’m waiting for the Ohm.


23 posted on 10/10/2010 1:10:58 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: epithermal

How much gas does one have to save to pay for the price of this thing? How much are the batteries?


24 posted on 10/10/2010 1:31:06 PM PDT by ontap
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To: egannacht
Chevy Sprint

55 mpg in 1986

25 posted on 10/10/2010 1:55:45 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

There were a number of very small import vehicles in the mid-late eighties with very impressive fuel economy. The three door, three cylinder Geo Metro was one of them. Came out just in time for gas prices to drop like a rock.

They’re usually very basic and fairly flimsy, but they’re around for those who rightly suspect we haven’t seen the last of bizarre gas prices. There was even a Chevette diesel, for those who don’t mind a more agricultural sound and feel. At least a few survived rust and the junkyard, and are considered somewhat collectible in certain circles.


26 posted on 10/10/2010 2:09:22 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: epithermal

What about the lead mines for all the batteries. What happens when all the greenies find out how they get the lead for batteries?


27 posted on 10/10/2010 2:34:57 PM PDT by wyokostur
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To: Yardstick

I drove one from Vermont to Tampa and back last winter. There were 5 of us with all of our luggage and we still got better than 30 MPG. I was VERY impressed with this vehicle.


28 posted on 10/10/2010 3:02:41 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: wyokostur

Why would they need lead mines for lithium-ion batteries?


29 posted on 10/10/2010 3:15:33 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I had a friend who bought one of those three cylinder Geos. He put premium gas in it because it was cheap and he said he wanted to treat himself because he got such good MPG.


30 posted on 10/10/2010 4:56:29 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: BBell

That car may actually be safer than the Gubmint Motors Volt.


31 posted on 10/10/2010 5:38:13 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Yardstick

Well, actually the Ford Fusion is an import... from Mexico.


32 posted on 10/10/2010 5:42:57 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Straight Vermonter

My bad...just figured they were using the same batteries as in my son’s power wheelchair. Hope they get the technology worked out for mobility equipment.


33 posted on 10/10/2010 5:45:45 PM PDT by wyokostur
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To: BBell; RegulatorCountry

I chose the Honda CRX because it was relatively cheap but retained a high resale value, the fit and finish was immaculate, tranny and engine was bullet proof (and could handle supercharging and nitrous, handling was superb on par with more expensive sports cars, fun as hell, great luxury for price, and finally the gas mileage was supernatural when you consider the speed it attained The CRX Si hit 0-60 in 8 ticks and 10 ticks for the 1.3 gas miser.

The Chevette, Metro, and Sprints were substandard in all areas, sorry to say.


34 posted on 10/10/2010 6:42:02 PM PDT by egannacht (Inalienable rights granted by...)
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To: egannacht

Honda dealers earned my ongoing scorn due to truly egregious markups beyond sticker price for that car. I’ve never owned a Honda for that reason, and likely never will buy a new one. I don’t doubt it was a great car, but I’m not going to go for that sort of treatment. Hope they’re happy, I am. I’ve owned a variety of interesting makes over the intervening years.

Toyota made great cars up until about five years ago, then they got progressively more interested in volume. Quality and reliability have slipped with each new model introduced since, imho. Nissan seriously overbuilt their cars beginning in the late eighties, one of the best cars I’ve owned was a 90 Maxima SE. Bulletproof, solid as a bank vault, no mechanical issues in nearly 200k miles and nary a squeak or a rattle. The stupid automated mousetrack shoulder belts always irritated me, though. I know they were forced to do it, but still.

I currently own an ‘07 Subaru Legacy GT Limited wagon, great car, very very fast and practical. Tight body, no mechanical issues, love the acceleration and the symmetrical AWD. Got a Corolla SE for commutes, a Ford Ranger for hauling stuff and still have the last Maxima I bought new in 96, unfortunately inferior to the 90 in nearly every way, which is why I don’t buy Maximas anymore, lol. Well, they’ve gotten sort of flabby and ugly, too. I’ve kept it for sentimental reasons, but between my back, my left knee and having fractured the radius in my right arm near the elbow, stickshift is looking out of the question these days. I don’t “need” four cars anyway.


35 posted on 10/10/2010 7:01:45 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Back in 1986, I bought a VW Golf Diesel (non-turbo). The best highway mileage was 52 mpg; average mileage hovered around 42 to 45 mpg (city and highway). It was the last U.S.-built VW from the Butler, PA plant before it was closed. I loved the car but health problems forced me to give up the 5-speed manual tranny.

Fast forward to our little “Greenie” car — the Volt from Government Motors — and its potential buyers.

GovMot will have to give potential buyers hefty subsidized discounts of $11K to bring the $44K MSRP into striking range of customers. Then there are a few nagging questions.

If the Volt only gets 40 miles on a charge before it has to be plugged-in or switch to its backup gas engine, this is hardly efficient.

Where are you going to plug-in the Volt? Eco-Greenies don't want power plants and oppose them at ever turn. Since electricity doesn't come out of a wall socket — it has to be GENERATED — where are the charging stations, whether at work or at home or on the road. I suspect that Volts will get a lot more use from their backup engines than the Greenies think.

Since the car is “fuel efficient”, expect gasoline revenues to take a hit and the politicians will push for higher gas taxes to “solve” the shortfall problem.

The battery pack is hideously expensive and is also a haz-mat item when it has to be replaced. Who's picking up the haz-mat disposal fee? How much does a new battery pack cost and how long will it be expected to last (average)? Note to Eco-Greenies: Your battery life will vary greatly depending on whether you live in a very hot or very cold climate. What then?

What I see is a bunch of Eco-Greenies buying Volts so they can drive them around to show off to friends and other Eco-Greenies. After that's over, the car will go into the garage and their SUV will be back for daily driving.

36 posted on 10/10/2010 9:32:02 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: RegulatorCountry

The Chevrolet Sprint preceded the Geo Metro and the Sprint later morphed into the Metro. I remember a friend of mine’s father had a diesel Ford Escort and this was around 84 or 85.


37 posted on 10/10/2010 9:43:31 PM PDT by BBell
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To: MasterGunner01

I actually don’t oppose hybrid or even all-electric vehicles. There’s a demand and they fill it. They also hold the promise of decreasing dependency upon nations that want to kill us.

The governmental subsidy is a sticking point. The “green” aspect, I couldn’t care less. Battery life and disposal have been concerns, but first gen Toyota Prius have been serving pretty strenuous duty as even taxis in some parts of the world, still going strong.

If the technology continues to improve and the cost of purchase declines, I wouldn’t be at all opposed to buying one.


38 posted on 10/10/2010 9:47:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BBell

The cars coming out of that joint Toyota-GM NUMMI plant in California always confused me, first a Chevy, then a Geo, then back to Chevy, then a Toyota ... couldn’t keep them separated in my mind.


39 posted on 10/10/2010 9:50:33 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Well there all Jap in origin.
40 posted on 10/10/2010 9:56:23 PM PDT by BBell
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To: EGPWS

Jackass.... All Toyotas money goes BACK to Japan. There’s a reason they were part of the original axis of evil. BUY AMERICAN


41 posted on 10/11/2010 7:06:41 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: RegulatorCountry
So get a diesel truck. Safer than an electric golf-cart on the highway.
42 posted on 10/11/2010 7:42:24 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat.)
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To: Celtic Cross

I have no need for a fullsize truck. I’d be interested in something like a Toyota HiLux diesel, but Toyota hasn’t seen fit to sell it in the US.


43 posted on 10/11/2010 8:27:36 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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