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How Middle Eastern Milk Drinkers Conquered Europe
Spiegel ^ | 15 Oct 2010 | Matthias Schulz

Posted on 10/15/2010 7:56:47 AM PDT by Palter

New research has revealed that agriculture came to Europe amid a wave of immigration from the Middle East during the Neolithic period. The newcomers won out over the locals because of their sophisticated culture, mastery of agriculture -- and their miracle food, milk.

Wedged in between dump trucks and excavators, archeologist Birgit Srock is drawing the outline of a 7,200-year-old posthole. A concrete mixing plant is visible on the horizon. She is here because, during the construction of a high-speed rail line between the German cities of Nuremberg and Berlin, workers happened upon a large Neolithic settlement in the Upper Franconia region of northern Bavaria.

The remains of more than 40 houses were unearthed, as well as skeletons, a spinning wheel, bulbous clay vessels, cows' teeth and broken sieves for cheese production -- a typical settlement of the so-called Linear Pottery culture (named after the patterns on their pottery).

This ancient culture provided us with the blessing of bread baking. At around 5300 BC, everyone in Central Europe was suddenly farming and raising livestock. The members of the Linear Pottery culture kept cows in wooden pens, used rubbing stones and harvested grain. Within less than 300 years, the sedentary lifestyle had spread to the Paris basin.

The reasons behind the rapid shift have long been a mystery. Was it an idea that spread through Central Europe at the time, or an entire people?

Peaceful Cooperation or Invasion?

Many academics felt that the latter was inconceivable. Agriculture was invented in the Middle East, but many researchers found it hard to believe that people from that part of the world would have embarked on an endless march across the Bosporus and into the north.

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; History; Society
KEYWORDS: europe; falsehistory; godsgravesglyphs; gotmilk; middleeast; milk; neolithic; teats; udderlyfascinating

1 posted on 10/15/2010 7:56:51 AM PDT by Palter
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To: SunkenCiv

Milk, ping.


2 posted on 10/15/2010 7:57:32 AM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: Palter
You can tell the pig thing is an afterthought. There's now evidence that a single variety of pig found widely throughout Europe was domesticated NUMEROUS TIMES. The original type of domestic pig was in the Middle East, but it has been replaced by varieties from Europe.

Horses aren't on there so maybe the artist didn't realize that they are a MAJOR source of milk in any horse culture. I can purchase mare's milk cheese in over a dozen stores in this community.

Recent in depth studies regarding the modern spread of lactose tolerance among the Sa'ami indicate that it's not exactly the auto-somal recessive it was formerly believed to be.

A single allele is enough to confer the beneficial effect on a person provided the local environment has milk available. That increases the rate of spread to near lightspeed ~ half a dozen generations and EVERYBODY's got it.

3 posted on 10/15/2010 8:11:53 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Palter
Soooo!

Alexander The Grate was The Mac_Cheese_Donutian who conquered the world?

All in all this is a Cheesy Post!

Cheese Racing!

4 posted on 10/15/2010 8:19:30 AM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: Palter
Another nail in the coffin of idiot leftist anthropologists and archaelogists who keep trying to believe human prehistory was peaceful.

In fact, of course, it was generally quite the opposite. We are all descended from the successful practitioners of genocide. The victims left no descendants.

5 posted on 10/15/2010 8:21:14 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: muawiyah

Horses aren’t on there so maybe the artist didn’t realize that they are a MAJOR source of milk in any horse culture. I can purchase mare’s milk cheese in over a dozen stores in this community.


Where is the credit for the Mongel who invented fermented mares milk....................


6 posted on 10/15/2010 8:23:06 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Palter

I thought this was going to be about how mooselimb men can drink breast milk from the women they dragged along while at war!
Never mind.


7 posted on 10/15/2010 8:23:57 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: muawiyah

They also talk about “Asians” not having the gene to digest milk. This is true of most south Asians, but most north Asians have lived on the stuff for millenia. Mongols and all that.


8 posted on 10/15/2010 8:24:51 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Palter
Cow's milk was indigestible to all our neolithic ancestors

So they migrated b/c they were running away from milk? I read that cows invented fire.


9 posted on 10/15/2010 8:25:43 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Life Imitates Bacon, but Bacon does not imitate Life. Bacon IS life." ~paulycy)
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To: PeterPrinciple
15,000 BC


10 posted on 10/15/2010 8:30:35 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Life Imitates Bacon, but Bacon does not imitate Life. Bacon IS life." ~paulycy)
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To: Palter
re: a spinning wheel,)))

Huh? Do they mean a spindle? Wheels did not come into use until the middle ages.

11 posted on 10/15/2010 8:53:04 AM PDT by Mamzelle (donate to O'Donnell--even a dollar is plenty! She has paypal!)
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To: Sherman Logan
North Asians have lived on milk right through their childhood and then abandoned milk and gone straight to yoghurt and cheese. That's the same way humanity handled milk for tens of thousands of years.

The "mutation" (Yes, we can call it that, a mutation imbedded in the matrices of mutant milk drinkers) started somewhere, and spread.

It only takes one copy to give you the gift, which will continue on into adulthood provided you continue to consume milk and milk byproducts.

Worth noting many East Asian people who believe they can drink milk (without also taking lactose pills) consume vast quantities of kim chee and saurkraut (same thing, different continent). That's where they get their lactase enzymes. BTW, cabbage grows well at high latitudes. Also worth noting East Asians who don't eat their kim chee discover the gift of projectile vomiting if their little problem begins at the pyloric valve! I have seen cookies tossed 10 meters over a large campfire.

I tell them "Read the labels" and eat no cheese aged less than 1 year.

12 posted on 10/15/2010 9:26:40 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Yoghurt stands were in business thousands of years before horses were domesticated.

Remember, once a tribe had corralled a bunch of animals in Springtime they'd milk females, select out the culls for slaughter and drying, lunched on a few young foals or kids, and then they'd turn the animals loose to go back eating the plants then growing freely on unsurveyed and enclosed lands.

People did that with horses, goats, sheep, donkeys, cattle, reindeer, elk, etc. They were "mighty hunters" already in command of the herds. Domestication came later as surplus vegetative matter suitable for animal feed became available. Then some tribal warlord figured out he could use people to feed the animals while protecting them from wild beasts.

13 posted on 10/15/2010 9:35:43 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Mamzelle
"Wheels did not come into use until the middle ages." What are you referring to ??

Spun cloth was current at least around 500 BCE. Wheels were in use by 2000 BCE at least over a large portion of EurAsia.

14 posted on 10/15/2010 5:09:08 PM PDT by SonsOfCollins_Wallace ("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
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To: Daffynition
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

15 posted on 10/15/2010 8:13:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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Thanks Palter.

It's been a while since we've had a topic about this, and also it's been a slow, lazy week here at GGG.
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16 posted on 10/15/2010 8:18:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Sherman Logan
The LBK Culture my Favorite, I was hoping for more bashed skulls and roasted bones ala Hexrheim.
17 posted on 10/15/2010 8:41:39 PM PDT by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: PeterPrinciple; SunkenCiv; All

Certain northern Africa cattle rearing tribes consume a blood and milk mixture, which they obtain by puncturing a neck vein of their cattle, and draining off a little blood. Apparently this is their primary article of food. Also I have read that if children stop drinking milk, they are likely to become lactose sensitive, but that continuing to drink milk into adulthood reduces the likelihood of developing sensitivity.


18 posted on 10/15/2010 11:36:07 PM PDT by gleeaikin (question authority)
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To: muawiyah
I can purchase mare's milk cheese in over a dozen stores in this community.

Indiana?

19 posted on 10/16/2010 2:45:30 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: SunkenCiv
>>..............it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe.<<

And just *who* are these people anyway? ;D


20 posted on 10/16/2010 4:21:53 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Life Imitates Bacon, but Bacon does not imitate Life. Bacon IS life." ~paulycy)
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To: Palter

21 posted on 10/16/2010 5:01:00 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: 1010RD
Well, actually, mare's milk is quite common in Indiana too, but I was referring to the far more urban area of Virginia where I live.

Indiana has horses, Fur Shur, because the big horse racing farms and even bigger "pharms" like Eli Lilly, et al, find it a good place to contract tp breed and raise horses.

What we have around here are about 25,000 Afghans, and they PREFER mare's milk ~ so we get mare's milk products from Bulgaria, which is presently the world's leading mare's milk feta cheese manufacturer. The stores catering to Afghan and Arab people here all sell canned mare's milk.

22 posted on 10/16/2010 6:12:41 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: 1010RD
Well, actually, mare's milk is quite common in Indiana too, but I was referring to the far more urban area of Virginia where I live.

Indiana has horses, Fur Shur, because the big horse racing farms and even bigger "pharms" like Eli Lilly, et al, find it a good place to contract tp breed and raise horses.

What we have around here are about 25,000 Afghans, and they PREFER mare's milk ~ so we get mare's milk products from Bulgaria, which is presently the world's leading mare's milk feta cheese manufacturer. The stores catering to Afghan and Arab people here all sell canned mare's milk.

23 posted on 10/16/2010 6:12:44 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Daffynition

Teats a mystery.


24 posted on 10/16/2010 10:30:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Condor51

I love science.


25 posted on 10/16/2010 10:34:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: gleeaikin

The whole anti-milk campaign is and has been anti-intellectual; the example that springs to mind is [unnamed idiot actress, busybody, and public scold] who parrots the claim that only humans drink the milk of other species — as if that is some kind of decisive argument (and is if she’s never seen a cat on a dairy farm, or anywhere else for that matter, enjoy cow’s milk). Humans are — like every thing that isn’t a plant — opportunistic feeders. And it isn’t a crime. Attempts to criminalize my eating habits will result in a lot of people not having anything at all to say about my eating habits. [and then ‘Civ cools down with a tall glass of milk]

:’)


26 posted on 10/16/2010 10:40:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Daffynition

IN the mad dash to politicize history they overlooked Chauvet and other neolithic sites...


27 posted on 10/16/2010 11:28:52 AM PDT by eleni121 (http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/memoryof.htm)
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To: muawiyah

So what would the low levels of lactose tolerance in north africa and the middle east mean?


28 posted on 06/02/2011 6:55:14 PM PDT by visualops (Proud Air Force Mom)
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To: visualops
What would it mean? That they didn't drink milk after childhood. However, they probably made and aged cheese, and as we know, yoghurt was probably invented there.

People with lactose intolerance make do with fermented products that contain lactase ~ kimchi, saurkraut, yoghurt, and so on.

Eventually the old boys got a hankering for those early Rhine maidens who had something like 500 genes modified to allow for persistent lactose tolerance, and the rest is history ~ ARAB WOMEN WITH STREAKED HAIR!

29 posted on 06/02/2011 7:05:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

That’s rather interesting. So lactose tolerance seems to be a “use it or lose it” type of thing? Kinda like civilization and now the Constitution.


30 posted on 06/02/2011 7:21:16 PM PDT by visualops (Proud Air Force Mom)
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To: visualops
If you inherit only one allele for lactose tolerance (on one of the modified genes related to the condition) you gots ta use it or lose it.

if you inherit 2 alleles you're set for life.

31 posted on 06/02/2011 7:43:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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