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Man spends life researching Lost Colony mystery
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | 17 Oct 2010 | Jeff Hampton

Posted on 10/17/2010 2:55:01 PM PDT by Palter

Sam Sumner retired as a schoolteacher, left his Hawaii home and recently moved to North Carolina, all for the purpose of solving the mystery of the Lost Colony.

The answer lies not in Buxton where experts and amateur sleuths have searched for decades, he says, but at Mackay Island National Wildlife Refuge in Currituck County, a site that leaves experts skeptical.

A 1923 map in the lobby of Mackay Island ranger station shows an image on the ground next to the Currituck Sound that looks just like an old drawing of Fort Raleigh.

"I looked at that map and I knew immediately what it was," Sumner said. "I have the evidence on my side. It is up to the archaeological experts to say the image is not a 16th-century fort."

Sumner, 63, has researched one of America's oldest mysteries for 31 years, traveling almost annually from Hawaii to Roanoke Island. He has partnered with a psychic archaeologist; rented underground radar equipment at budget-busting costs; queried experts; researched books, maps and papers; and written reports.

But the most compelling clue is the map.

Sir Walter Raleigh sent 118 colonists to the New World in 1587 to establish a settlement. Led by John White, they landed at what is now Roanoke Island.

In August 1587, White left for England to get supplies, returning in 1590 to find the colony gone. All he found were the letters CRO carved on a tree and CROATOAN carved on a post. The colony possibly split up, one group going south to Buxton on Hatteras Island where the Croatan Indians lived and the other north toward Chesapeake. White wrote that a group was to go 50 miles inland.

"There are two islands 50 miles away," Sumner said. "One is at Hatteras and one is Knotts Island."

The colonists lived there for 20 years, until 1607, when the Powhatan Indians massacred them, according to a history from 1612. That is another strong piece of evidence they were there, Sumner said.

Forts of that day were made of earth piled high after digging a ditch around the perimeter, said Doug Stover, historian at the Fort Raleigh National Historic Site on Roanoke Island.

The image on the map has a long nose at one end and is star-shaped at the other, just like the old, undocumented drawing used to show what Fort Raleigh may have looked like.

Sumner could seek help through Fort Raleigh if the evidence is strong enough, Stover said. Mackay Island will not issue Sumner a permit to excavate unless he has backing from a sanctioned archaeologist or group.

It is hard to get backing without more evidence and hard to get more evidence without excavating, Sumner said.

Lost Colony researchers do not give credence to his Mackay Island theory.

"We know of no archaeological evidence to indicate a Raleigh colony there," said Phil Evans, president of the First Colony Foundation, a group that researches the Raleigh colonization efforts.

The group would have settled in a place where the Indians were friendly, said Nick Luccketti, principal investigator at the James River Institute for Archaeology and a vice president of the First Colony Foundation.

"I'm not sure Knotts Island fits that bill," he said.

The Mackay Island site, called the Sumner site by Sumner, is now an oval shaped pond. Sumner believes the site, located in low lands, may have been dug out and filled with water for duck ponds.

Joseph Knapp, the wealthy owner of Mackay Island in the 1920s, hunted there and practiced waterfowl conservation.

"They're all looking at Buxton," Sumner said. "No one looks anywhere else."


Sam Sumner believes the mystery of the Lost Colony can be solved by looking at Mackay Island National Wildlife Refuge in Currituck County. He points to the image on a 1923 map of the refuge that could be the remains of a fort built by members of the Lost Colony after they left Roanoke Island in 1587.


A closeup view of the image drawn on a 1923 map of Mackay Island National Wildlife Refuge that looks much like an old drawing of Fort Raleigh. Retired school teacher Sam Sumner believes this image helps solve the mystery of the Lost Colony.


This old, undocumented drawing purportedly shows what Fort Raleigh may have looked like, a long nose at one end and star-shaped at the other, which matches the image on a 1923 map in the lobby of Mackay Island ranger station.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; croatoan; lostcolony; mystery; northcarolina; roanoke; virginia
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1 posted on 10/17/2010 2:55:10 PM PDT by Palter
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping!


2 posted on 10/17/2010 2:57:44 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Palter

The NC coast shits and moves continuously. A sand spit or marsh noted on a 1923 map certainly didn’t exist in the early 1600’s.


3 posted on 10/17/2010 3:02:24 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Palin/Christie 2012)
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To: Rebelbase

“shits and moves” does not sound good at all!


4 posted on 10/17/2010 3:04:12 PM PDT by Cathy
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To: Palter

Looks like a possible match. He could be on to something.


5 posted on 10/17/2010 3:04:37 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Rebelbase

A guy in our church is a Lumbee Indian. They can tell you what happened to the “lost” colony — the members were adopted by, and assimilated into, their tribe.


6 posted on 10/17/2010 3:06:55 PM PDT by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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To: Palter
I love it when people find a passion like this, I hope he discoverers what he hopes to find.
7 posted on 10/17/2010 3:07:38 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Palter

Oh for pete’s sake. Just let it go. They’re ants for crying out loud!


8 posted on 10/17/2010 3:09:30 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Rebelbase
"The NC coast shits and moves continuously."

Sounds like a heckuva dump.

9 posted on 10/17/2010 3:10:09 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Rebelbase

Oh, really?!


10 posted on 10/17/2010 3:10:25 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Rebelbase

It didn’t until half of Jersey moved down there, lol.


11 posted on 10/17/2010 3:11:05 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Palter

He needs to set his beeber to stune. Then he’ll find it.


12 posted on 10/17/2010 3:12:39 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Palter
The Virginia archealogists "finally" and recently turned up the Jamestown settlement which they were sure was buried at sea.

They probably don't like this dude "in their territory".

I'm a map freak. Maps have "secrets".

13 posted on 10/17/2010 3:12:45 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: RJR_fan

If you’ve ever met any Melungeon people, from way back in the hills of SW Virginia, NE Tennessee and the extreme NW corner of North Carolina, they’ll tell you the same thing. There are a few “mystery” people who turned up in James Cittie (Jamestown), too.


14 posted on 10/17/2010 3:13:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Sacajaweau; Rebelbase

Apparently, the NC coast has a secret too.


15 posted on 10/17/2010 3:15:33 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

James Kennedy wrote a fascinating history of the “Shipmate / accursed soul” people.


16 posted on 10/17/2010 3:17:47 PM PDT by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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To: Rebelbase
The NC coast shits and moves continuously.

I am sure you meant to write shifts but it is funny:)

17 posted on 10/17/2010 3:18:01 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Tax-chick

A particularly funny Typso, you might want to fire up your ping list. Heck, drag the NC forum over to razz Rb, too.


18 posted on 10/17/2010 3:19:34 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Palter
About the time Lord De La Ware showed up to save Jamestown (1610) a 17 year drought in the Mid-Atlantic was ending (having started in 1593)

Although conditions in Europe are usually pointed to as delaying more English settlement earlier, the cold, hard facts were that it was so dry that all the rivers ran saltwater up to the Fall Line.

The 1612 reference to colonists having held out until 1607 when Powhatan Indians massacred them is just too convenient ~ Jamestown itself was founded that year.

There are references to other non-English settlers in the vicinity of Jamestown (including Martin's Hundred which became part of Jamestown (extended) as early as 1598.

A later census of the region conducted by authorities at Jamestown indicated that there was already extensive settlement in what is now Maryland (upwards of 20,000 European people).

There are another 30 sites on the Eastern Seaboard that were settled in roughly the same period as the Raleigh attempt and Jamestown, but most have not been studied simply because it costs a lot of money and some of them are on developed private property. A couple of them are actually fairly near Jamestown ~ then, too, the Spanish had sites, the residents of which relocated to Jamestown as soon as they could.

What happens with any study of any of these named settlements is there is little information about them in European records, they left behind few of their own records, and even archaeological evidence is not terribly extensive.

Anyone interested in early 1600s "Virginia" can stop in any county library in Virginia and visit "The Virginia Room". They make a major effort to acquire and preserve for your use copy of any report or book about anything concerning early Virginia.

You'll find information about Florida as well as CarolAnna!

19 posted on 10/17/2010 3:20:19 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: RJR_fan

He seems to be the preeminent authority these days, up in Wise County, Virginia I believe.


20 posted on 10/17/2010 3:20:53 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Cathy
Somebody did that to make this ...


21 posted on 10/17/2010 3:21:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

That’s some real talent. Might want to lay off the fiber just a tad, though.


22 posted on 10/17/2010 3:26:33 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Is that the NYT?


23 posted on 10/17/2010 3:39:53 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

It would be if that were my “art.”


24 posted on 10/17/2010 3:41:38 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Palter

Wraiths of Roanoke

[SciFi movie]


25 posted on 10/17/2010 3:41:38 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Rebelbase
The NC coast shits and moves continuously.

That's pretty interesting, for shifts and giggles.

26 posted on 10/17/2010 3:42:22 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Rebelbase; Ryan Spock; TheMom; TChris; Xenalyte; Semper Vigilantis; georgiadevildog; ...
The NC coast shits and moves continuously.

Typso ping! Geo-anthropomorphism ping, too. Don't eat those fish ...

27 posted on 10/17/2010 4:55:30 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Be nice to venomous snakes. They only want to eat a mouse!)
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To: Palter
First: that 'fort shaped' hill appears to be a pond. If the pond represents the moat around the fort then the fort's interior was below sea level.

Second: why would anyone build a fort with that shape? The Vauban touches are nice, but that long extension just increases the amount of wall to be defended without adding much to interior space.

28 posted on 10/17/2010 4:59:03 PM PDT by Grut
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To: fieldmarshaldj

OOPS!


29 posted on 10/17/2010 5:02:47 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Palin/Christie 2012)
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To: Tax-chick
The NC coast shits and moves continuously.

But isn't that redundant (aside from any geological difficulty)? Don't most people refer to, ah, that AS "having a movement"?

30 posted on 10/17/2010 5:10:47 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Hey, that’s a good one!


31 posted on 10/17/2010 5:12:06 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Be nice to venomous snakes. They only want to eat a mouse!)
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To: Palter

The map shows the contours of a tidal pond.


32 posted on 10/17/2010 5:16:59 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: RegulatorCountry
I am fascinated by the Melungeons. I wish I knew more. My paternal grandfather's family came from that part of the country, central Tennessee. He was sort of a strange looking man, dark hair, light eyes, tall and thin. He died at about 90+ and only had a couple of gray hairs in his head. I have always wondered if he was one of them but he died in about 1959 and I had never heard of Melungeons until a few years ago.
33 posted on 10/17/2010 5:36:16 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Around dinner time, not a good pic to post. ;/


34 posted on 10/17/2010 5:43:35 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Caractacus..or Bob if a boy & Boudicca if a girl....such hard decisions for dearie Snidely)
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To: Ditter

There is a genetic project or two going on, or was. Clues in behavior and speech, too. Sort of restless, moved a lot outside of their, what, strongholds in VA, TN and NC? Not sure if that’s the right word. So-called “shovel teeth” are a physical trait, claiming to be “Black Dutch” or “Portugee” would be a linguistic clue.

I’ve got a few genealogical lines with strong ties to the group, most notably Sizemore.


35 posted on 10/17/2010 5:51:35 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
I just Googled Melungeon, interesting. My grandfather was born in 1879 in Texas but his family came originally from Tennessee. He went back there to visit them a few times. It was his different looks that make me wonder about his ancestry. His last name was Copeland and I have never seen that name among Melungeon names. Wish I had asked him more questions before he died. Isn't it always that way?
36 posted on 10/17/2010 6:16:36 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: mojitojoe

Class always tells. Lower class, too.


37 posted on 10/17/2010 6:21:23 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Ditter

In the South, Melungeons was often used to explain away the appearance of dark pigmentation within a White Southern Family. No matter the actual reason: genetic anomoly, French, Italian, Indian, or (heaven forbid) African; the Melungeon explanation was a way to avoid derogatory social gossip.

The truth is that the South was far more ethnically diverse than many of our dear sweet elderly Aunts were prepared to admit.


38 posted on 10/17/2010 6:25:29 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Ditter

Hit the Census records in TN; which counties matter. Census records and associated surnames are fairly easily located online these days. Neighbors’ names in the vicinity, too. They were isolated and even ostracized in the 1800’s, so being in the vicinity of a Melungeon community would likely tell you something.

And, how is little Cookie doing? Still better?


39 posted on 10/17/2010 6:39:54 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RJR_fan

The Lumbee have a history of assimilating other cultures. That area of NC was a haven for runaway indentured servants and later slaves, criminals and any other societal refugees that needed a place to live outside the mainstream of colonial society.


40 posted on 10/17/2010 6:43:53 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Palin/Christie 2012)
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To: LucyT

I was always taught that the epitome of low class was to point out a presumed lack of it in others. Always endeavor to make others comfortable, or make a graceful exit, in other words.


41 posted on 10/17/2010 6:43:57 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Rebelbase

Robeson County can still be quite the rowdy place.


42 posted on 10/17/2010 6:45:04 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Cookie had a relapse. I don’t know what caused it, I am at a total loss. She had a bladder/kidney infection at the same time as the renewed itching. She was so listless I though she was dying. She has come out of it after antibiotics. I changed her food again this time to venison and sweet potato and she is doing better again. We are going to be away for a week and when we come back my brother (the vet) wants me to take her to a specialist again. We’ll see. thanks for asking.


43 posted on 10/17/2010 6:47:02 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

She needs immune support for whatever reason, imho. Get her right back on the probiotic as soon as the course of antibiotics is done, she needs to reestablish beneficial flora in her gut that is being killed off. No reason to discontinue the Omegas either, not that I can see, but your veterinarian brother would be the expert on the matter.


44 posted on 10/17/2010 6:52:12 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: mojitojoe

I know. It was gross, huh?


45 posted on 10/17/2010 6:59:51 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: mojitojoe

I know. It was gross, huh?


46 posted on 10/17/2010 7:00:02 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: mojitojoe

I’m so sick of double-posting that I could sit down and cry like a little girl. It’s not me!!!!!!!!


47 posted on 10/17/2010 7:06:19 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
She hasn't been off her probiotics and omega 3. She gets them every day and she thinks it's her treat. Next week the ferns that I suspect are causing all the dogs skin problems are going to get a dose of Round Up. I wanted to wait until we are gone and the dogs are at the boarding kennel so they won't get into the Round Up while it is working. I'll plant something else on that slope.
48 posted on 10/17/2010 7:13:32 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: centurion316

My husbands elderly aunt told him that there had been an Indian grandmother back in his family but not to worry, she was the white folks kind of Indian. What ever that means LOL! My husband was just hoping to have some Indian blood along with the English, French and German that he knew about.


49 posted on 10/17/2010 7:17:39 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Yep. The numbers of people who believe that they descend from Pocahontas defies mathematical probability. That story, at least in my family, has been debunked.


50 posted on 10/17/2010 7:21:45 PM PDT by centurion316
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