Posted on 10/17/2010 8:51:01 PM PDT by optiguy
New BCS Poll Just Released
Just as long as it’s not Oregon.
Team BCS Average
1 Oklahoma .9215
2 Oregon .8921
3 Boise State .8898
4 Auburn .8641
5 TCU .8573
6 LSU .8245
7 Michigan State .7628
8 Alabama .6654
9 Utah .6540
10 Ohio State .5726
11 Missouri .5491
12 Stanford .5374
13 Wisconsin .5335
14 Oklahoma State .5261
15 Iowa .4824
16 Nebraska .4295
17 Florida State .4267
18 Arizona .3807
19 Texas .2214
20 West Virginia .1812
21 South Carolina .1555
22 Kansas State .1422
23 Arkansas .1302
24 Mississippi State .1253
25 Virginia Tech .0658
Agreed.
Ohio State # 10? BS. They should be # 30. They played nobody until last night, and they were all aglow over beating their usual non-conference cupcake foes before.
BCS is BS..
Hopefully it ends up with Boise State and TCU at #1 and #2, and then the BCS will finally crumble, to be replaced with a playoff system (just like in NCAA division II). Bowl games and the “ratings” are bunk...
Gee don’t see Texas Tech anywhere on that list. Oh, maybe because Tupperware SUCKS!!!!!
wow, I looked at Ohio State’s schedule...I noticed 4 home games in a row to start the season. Does anyone else do that?
amen to that!
1 Oklahoma 6-0
2 Oregon 6-0
3 Boise State 6-0
4 Auburn 7-0
5 TCU 7-0
6 LSU 7-0
7 Michigan State 7-0
8 Alabama 6-1
9 Utah 6-0
10 Ohio State 6-1
11 Missouri 6-0
12 Stanford 5-1
13 Wisconsin 6-1
14 Oklahoma State 6-0
15 Iowa 5-1
16 Nebraska 5-1
17 Florida State 6-1
18 Arizona 5-1
19 Texas 4-2
20 West Virginia 5-1
21 South Carolina 4-2
22 Kansas State 5-1
23 Arkansas 4-2
24 Mississippi State 5-2
25 Virginia Tech 5-2
I think Nebraska will beat Oklahoma. Nebraska recievers dropped three TD passes. Had they caught even one of them, the complexion of the game would have been much different.
As an OU grad, all I can say is BOOMER SOONER!!!!
This is how you know it’s all BS:
10 Ohio State 6-1
13 Wisconsin 6-1
Saturday’s final score: Wisconsin 31, Ohio State 18
Same exact record. How can the team who won the head to head be ranked lower? It’s not like Wisconsin lost to a nobody. It was Michigan State!
Not that I give a ‘bleep’ but Auburn (7-0) is 3-0 against top 30 teams and no one else can touch this record at this point so—
Well. Like I said.
I'm a college football traditionalist and have mixed feelings about both the current BCS system and playoffs. My perception is that a playoff reduces the value of games in the regular season.
I may be wrong about that so convince me how such scheme still makes "every game count" leading up to the playoffs.
Couldn’t agree more.
I feel sorry for OU now. #1 has been a curse the past two weeks.
Here’s how - you have the top 2 of each conference go to the playoffs. There are 12 conferences, that gives you 24 teams. Add 8 floating bids (perhaps a tossed bone to the AP/ESPN polls), and you have 32 teams. At most, a team would have 5 rounds of playoffs. Yes, that’s 5 to 6 weeks. Of course, bowl season lasts nearly that long as-is!
For conference schools, go by the conference record; use head-to-head conference wins to break any ties. For the independents, go by overall record.
For example, the PAC-10. Say USC is unbeaten, Oregon, Stanford and UCLA each have one conference loss. During the season, Stanford beat UCLA. Oregon beat Stanford. UCLA didn’t beat Stanford or Oregon. Oregon’s only loss was the USC - the conference champion. Thus the top 2 would be USC and Oregon.
Note this also makes the non-conference games not important in terms of the playoffs. There’s no reason to just schedule patsies for you to beat up on, to pad your season start. Scheduling a few “big boys” as non-conference, but sweeping your conference still gets you in. That’s got to be better than what we have now, with a lot of the perennial powerhouses (I’m looking at Nebraska and Ohio) from scheduling nominal Div I teams (teams that really belong in Div II).
I think it would work well to encourage teams to win every game - if you don’t place in the top of your conference in record, you’re not in the playoffs. Make your non-conference games about excitement and fans and rivalries - it doesn’t hurt in terms of your standings (like preseason games in the NFL).
I think it would work better than what we have now, which is a bunch of professional beer-drinkers (known as sports writers) and friends (coaches) voting for what they think is best. At least there’s a semblance of sanity in there with the computer rankings...
That would be great, but it won’t happen.
What might is a “plus one” scheme. How often is the best team in the country not in the top 4? NEVER. So run the bowls, designate 2 as playoffs, and then have the winners play for the title. Really don’t get why they won’t at least do that.
“Death of an Offense” written by the Regents of Texas Tech University and directed by Tuberville.
A Championship of Champions would be better. Take the top 6 Conferences SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big East, SWC, Pac 10 and two at large and have an 8 team Championship. Then every game of the season is actually a tourney game making an unbelievable season.
Go Ducks
Texas Tech will end their season with two non-conference games this year...who the hell will care by then? Aren’t Non-conf games supposed to be the practice BEFORE your real games start?
just remember. 2000 was also just supposed to be a ‘re-building’ year.
How does this sound? Take the winners of the four BCS bowls, Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, and Orange. Based on their ranking entering those games you have #4 play #1 and #2 play #3 all at neutral fair weather sites or domed stadiums. The winners of those two games play for the championship on the off Sunday before the Super Bowl. The integrity of the regular season and conferences remain intact as does the bowls.
As an example of embracing the "new and improved" (and certainly not the stuff of tradition), college football overtime's system was pure genius. Initially I was skeptical of the plan, but seeing it in played out in action over the past several years (like that thrilling UDub game this past weekend) has made me a believer and a fervid advocate.
...and produced by Craig James.
There’s got to be something better than what we have now... It simply sucks and is an abject failure - see the current rankings of Ohio State and Wisconsin! It’s heavily tilted towards favorites and subjective feel.
Decide it on the field, let the better team prove who it is. You don’t get that shot if you’re TCU or BSU. You may have a great football team but you’ll never get a chance to prove you’re “the best” because the coaches and sports writers will never vote for you in the numbers required, because they will never consider you a “big school”. Doesn’t matter what the talent really is like.
And like you, I love the overtime rules. I wish the NFL did the same thing; it’s not cool to have a hard-fought game come down to who wins a coin toss for overtime possession!
Just the usual anti PAC-10 bias. Until the bowl games come along, and they say “woops - I guess those guys were better than we thought”
The rankings are a ridiculous farce - to the point where it isn’t even worth the time to document - but ehre is an easy one -
Stanford - #12. one loss on the road at Oregon.
TOSU (another year of over rated chokers) - #10 - one loss - Wisconsin? With wins at Ohio, Eastern Michigan, and marshall? Is their quality win supposed to be Indiana or Illinois? WTF - both have most wins against like Towson, Western Kentucky, and Akron -
Seriously -
Or maybe it is Illinois’ tough wins against Southern Illinois or Northern Ilinois -
It is the same every year.
Iowa - #15 - already lost to AZ, #18. If Iowa hadn’t played a PAC-10 team, the comments would be “how good is Iowa at 6-0” etc. Where is the quality in the Iowa schedule that is missing from the AZ schedule? Is Iowa’s “quality win” Penn State? ???? Michigan? (did they really schedule Massachusetts?)
So now the Pac 10 will ruin the PAC-10 - by adding teams, and screwing with schedules, because frankly an off week in the PAC-10 is playing somebody “unranked” like USC or Washington or UCLA (destroyers of “quality teams? in other conferences.) or AZ State - lost by one to what we now know to be a powerful Wisconson team.
The jackass commentators would be asking “can Texas still play for the national title since its only loss is to OK” - if they hadn’t played UCLA and got their ass kicked. They are still ranked #19 - with two losses - based on ? one quality win over Nebraska?
OK = #1 - must be those high pressure games at Utah State, Air Force, Cincinnatti, (those three wins by a total of 12 points) Iowa State ..... well - they had that “big win” against Texas. The same Texas man-handled by the unranked UCLA average PAC-10 team. OOh - and Florida State - is the Big East still division 1?
Oregon wins - Tennesee, AZ State, Stanford - (and a rather hapless other 3.)
So - to predict the rest of the year - 50% probable Oregon will lose to some PAC-10 team, OR State, or AZ, or Washington will put together 4 good quarters - or USC or UCLA will play giant killer - then they will somehow be “overlooked” for an OK vs Auburn or LSu or AL national title game.
Oregon will go to the Rose bowl, ranked 4 or 5, play some team ranked 5 or 6 - Michigan State or Wisconsin. And dismantle them. 42-10 or something - and all the pollsters will say “gee - maybe they were better than we thought” - or make some lame excuse like “maybe TOSU was just depressed that they weren’t playing for the title” or some claptrap.
Same thing every year.
When I was a kid growing up in western New York State, we only had two channels (CBS and NBC). CBS carried NY Yankees, Cleveland Browns (Dr Frank Ryan at QB) and mostly Ohio State (Woody Hayes) with some Notre Dame. So I've been a lifelong Yankee, Browns (now Ravens) and Buckeye fan.
It's tough being around FReepers who by and large love our overpowering military but hate the overpowering Yankees and underperforming Buckeyes.
Go you Buckeyes.
Go you magnificent Yankees.
Ravens? Well, they lost the allure of Cleveland and that incredible stadium by the lake (LOL) where I saw Ted Williams go 6 for 8 in a double header against the Indians in 1957. He hit .388 that year, being 38 years old.
I’m the last holdout on this ( the rest of you all side with Obama). I think they ought get rid of BCS, forget about play-offs,and go back to letting the conference titles mean something; the traditional bowl pairings good enough (Rose:
Big10-Pac 10, etc). The push toward “super conferences” would end, etc.It’s not like pros where the best have 10 years or more to win a championship; these boys have 4 at most. Let the smaller, regional groupings survive, I say, as I vanish in the wake.
Think you misunderstand our defintion of *Yankees* LOL!
Go Rangers! (I really can’t tolerate baseball)
\m/ HookEm!
One of those is because they switched dates for the Texas game.
The Horns play a non-conf game towards the end of the season also.
Looks like an SEC West year. 3 in the top 10, all but the Bears in the top 25.
The Auburn - LSU game next Saturday should be good.
Someone is secretly removing FL teams from the Top 25. First Miami, now UF goes missing.
Go Noles! (I wonder how long it’s been since FSU was the only ranked team in FL?)
Excellent addition. Thank you
Yes, and one non-conf moved to the middle of your season isn’t a big deal but TWO at the end? Sheesh
Either way it's a win for Bama.
Uh, didn't Ohio State win handily against the top Pac 10 team in last year's Rose Bowl? Now who was that they beat?
You might want to look it up.
The Auburn - LSU game next Saturday should be good.
Let’s say OU and Oregon both lose while the five undefeated teams right below them keep winning. I wonder if Auburn, Michigan State, and LSU would leapfrog Boise and TCU because of strength of schedule.
Not that I know of. And, get this; it is actually the law...yes, the LAW as passed by the Ohio legislature that Ohio State MUST play an in-state school at least once a year. This year it was Ohio University, next year it will be Cincinnati. What a joke.
I despise Ohio State.
“Death of an Offense” written by the Regents of Texas Tech University and directed by Tuberville.
I read where Leach might get an offer from Tennessee. If so, he better hope that Phil Sims son isn’t the same momma’s boy that Craig James son was. Watched him on CBSSports and must say he is one lousy color man (even admitted he might be in over his head). BUT, I always admired Leach’s offenses and ability to recruit QBs, even tho it PO’d me when they beat my ‘Horns in the last seconds.
I think he got a raw deal at Tech, but that’s the way it is these days in our pansy society. In any event, I wish him well.
Nothing - not a mention of Ruffin McNiell as the new HC. I looked at my husband and asked if they even interview these idiots before hiring them.
Oh and as an interesting tidbit - Leach got fired for putting the little princess inside a press room after he whined about his head, but Tuberville played our QB, who has a documented history of a concussion after he was hit hard enough in the jaw to need XRAYS. Now who is risking students health?
“..Take the top 6 Conferences SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big East, SWC, Pac 10 and two at large and have an 8 team Championship...”
The old SWC (Southwest Conference) folded ~15 years ago. You must have meant the Big 12 (a new name is necessary since soon there will be only 10). Your proposal has been made in the past. I would submit that the ACC and Big East are rinky dink conferences that should be thrown in with the two at large berths and that there are often teams that didn’t win their conferences that nevertheless are legitimate contenders for winning the playoffs. So I would propose Big12, Big10, Pac10, and SEC with FOUR at large berths.
My question is why aren’t Auburn and LSU there NOW? OK, Boise St, TCU, nor Oregon’s schedules can touch either Auburn or LSU’s. I mean almost their entire division (save Ole Miss) is ranked in the top 25. No other conference can hold a candle to the difficulty of 8 SEC conference games.
Tigers didn't lose against 18th rated North Carolina.
Tigers won against #25 (now #20) West Virginia.
Tigers won against #14 Florida (now out but they'll be back)
Of course there will be a game Saturday which will be like a playoff game.
The "Hatter" will need all his magic...he's probably in New Orleans now.
BTW when will Auburn decide between the "War Eagles" and "Tigers"...I've never understood that and would truly like to know what the deal is.
AK would be Alaska...Arkansas would be AR.
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