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Warner Bros. Moving ‘The Hobbit’ Out of New Zealand (Look for the Union Label)
slashfilm.com ^ | 10/20/2010 | Russ Fischer

Posted on 10/20/2010 12:48:08 PM PDT by Kaosinla

This is a surprising turn of events for The Hobbit. When a small coalition of actors’ unions in New Zealand and Australia pushed actors’ guilds across the world to boycott work on the films, citing an unfair residuals arrangement, Peter Jackson responded by threatening to move the production to Eastern Europe.

But that would never happen, right? The organizations wouldn’t push away a huge chunk of work like the two Hobbit films by holding firm to a set of demands for which the production and backers at Warner Bros. have sought appropriate solutions — that would be crazy.

And yet Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh are now saying that Warner Bros. will move the films out of New Zealand to a yet to be disclosed new shooting location. So is this a done deal, or just an escalated threat by the studio?

The Press of New Zealand has a collective quote from Jackson and Walsh, who say “The damage inflicted on our film industry by [the actors unions] is long since done,” and resolution of the union issue now “does nothing to help the film stay in New Zealand.”

The pair says that Warner Bros.’ faith in the New Zealand industry has been undermined, and that the studio is concerned about spending $500m there. “Next week Warners are coming down to New Zealand to make arrangements to move the production offshore. It appears we cannot make films in our own country even when substantial financing is available.”

The sad thing is that the instigating group, the New Zealand Actors’ Equity, is controlled by an Australian organization, and this is being seen by many as a play by the Australian group to take a controlling interest in the NZ film industry. And the NZAE represents only a small percentage of...

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/10/20/warner-bros-moving-the-hobbit-zealand-labor-disputes/

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; TV/Movies; The Hobbit Hole
KEYWORDS: hobbit; lordoftherings; peterjackson; union

1 posted on 10/20/2010 12:48:16 PM PDT by Kaosinla
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To: Kaosinla

Oh noes!


2 posted on 10/20/2010 12:49:33 PM PDT by Andrea19
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To: Kaosinla

Eastern Europe is great as long as the films get made.

Can’t wait!!


3 posted on 10/20/2010 12:53:27 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Stay focused and determined. Our destination is NOVEMBER!!)
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To: Kaosinla

D&D freaks everywhere are putting down their bags of Cheetos and taking up their official Lord of the Rings commemorative swords! And after posting about this outrage til three in the morning, they’ll pick up their bags of Cheetos again and drift off to sleep, in mom’s cellar, beneath their posters of comic book heroines, and dreaming that they’ll meet a real woman someday...


4 posted on 10/20/2010 12:56:30 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!--Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Andrea19

“Oh noes!”

For some reason that made me laugh out loud.


5 posted on 10/20/2010 12:57:30 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!--Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Kaosinla

If the politicans and the unions had half a brain, they’d immediately offer WB and Jackson all kinds of waivers, subsidies and tax breaks to bring the movies back to California, and employ some of their laid-off Hollywood membership.

But that would make too much sense.


6 posted on 10/20/2010 12:59:07 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Kaosinla

The idiot Aussies in the West Island of New Zealand


7 posted on 10/20/2010 1:00:36 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Darkwolf377

Thank you. But for the record, I’m not sure if D&D obsessives living in a cellar have the strength to lift a sword like Anduril, even a commemorative one.


8 posted on 10/20/2010 1:01:07 PM PDT by Andrea19
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To: Andrea19

Maybe a plastic sword with blinking lights they bought down at the mall.


9 posted on 10/20/2010 1:04:18 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Kaosinla

Don’t care where, just make the movie...and not animated with Leonard Nimoy singing.


10 posted on 10/20/2010 1:08:57 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Darkwolf377

A former D&D freak here, and I couldn’t care much less about where it is filmed, or even IF it is filmed. I did thoroughly enjoy LOTR though.


11 posted on 10/20/2010 1:12:25 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I am sure all those unionists in New Zealand are happy to be unemployed now.


12 posted on 10/20/2010 1:13:34 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Andrea19

I’m a proud D&D geek and can easily lift and wield a sword like Anduril although I’m a bit out of practice with a 40” blade. I have a great job, a house, a son an ex-wife and a girlfriend. Not all of us are basement dwelling Cheeto lovers. Not even most of us, to be honest. You’d probably be surprised.

It’s a good thing I’m not one of the perpetually aggrieved class or I’d probably be outside your place of employment picketing with placards written in Elvish ;-)


13 posted on 10/20/2010 1:16:03 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - Orwell)
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To: Andrea19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zng5kRle4FA

Yes, but they can alway cast a Magic Missile

14 posted on 10/20/2010 1:18:59 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Personal Responsibility
Plus, Anduril was still a very shortened-by-breakage blade in the time of The Hobbit anyway - easy to carry!
15 posted on 10/20/2010 1:20:20 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Personal Responsibility

In Quenya or Sinardin? In all seriousness though, I said “obsessive” not “geek” or OP’s phrase “freak” for that matter. And I prefer AD&D myself. But I’m glad you’re in shape, much better than much of this country.


16 posted on 10/20/2010 1:22:06 PM PDT by Andrea19
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To: Andrea19

LOL - Sinadrin!

And there is no seriousness from any of this stuff. It’s fun to be able to chat about things other than how absolutely ridiculous politics is once in a while!


17 posted on 10/20/2010 1:23:53 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - Orwell)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Agreed.


18 posted on 10/20/2010 1:25:35 PM PDT by Andrea19
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To: Argus
Didn't Arnie "work" with the pinky-ring-wearing-thugs to get T3 filmed in LA?

Perhaps Peter Jackson/WB is just buying time to get the Arnies and their political connections on board after Whitman is hopefully sworn in?

19 posted on 10/20/2010 1:25:58 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Love that video.


20 posted on 10/20/2010 1:26:14 PM PDT by Andrea19
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To: Andrea19

They’ve taken the Hobbits to Slovenia!


21 posted on 10/20/2010 1:32:03 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Good point - at that point was probably more like a slashing only style short sword.


22 posted on 10/20/2010 1:32:20 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - Orwell)
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To: Darkwolf377; Personal Responsibility

I love Cheetos. They are like Lembas, but without the leaves.


23 posted on 10/20/2010 1:32:39 PM PDT by frithguild (Joe Wilson was wrong when he shouted "You lie!" Obama doesn't just lie - he lies all the time.)
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To: Kaosinla
Way to go Aussie Union members!

Your tactics WORKED - instead of a piece of the $500M pie, you get SQUAT

ZERO

ZILCH

NADA

But you "won" nonetheless -

hint...do a google search of "Pyrrhic victory" before planning a similar battle next time, ok?

24 posted on 10/20/2010 1:36:02 PM PDT by NorCoGOP (OBAMA: Living proof that hope is not a plan.)
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To: Kaosinla

Unions going from good to greed


25 posted on 10/20/2010 1:44:00 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Personal Responsibility

And my cleric responds with a stunning blow from his Agrazing Mace. It stuns but doesn’t kill.


26 posted on 10/20/2010 1:45:44 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi; Corin Stormhands; 2Jedismom; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; ecurbh; Ramius
They’ve taken the Hobbits to Slovenia!

ROTFL!

27 posted on 10/20/2010 1:48:55 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Darkwolf377
The Lord of the Rings was the second highest selling book in the world after the Bible for the 20th century.

Not just nerds in the basement like these books. Even Oxford Dons read them. Heck, one even wrote them.

28 posted on 10/20/2010 1:48:59 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: submarinerswife

There are very picturesque areas in Romania, Hungary, Serbia, Croatia, etc. where the film can be made without hurting the look of the scenery. Stupid union thugs, bye, bye!


29 posted on 10/20/2010 1:59:19 PM PDT by Defiant (I'm a Fabian Co nstitutionalist. Roll back FDR and progressivism!)
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To: Defiant

Look at the location where they filmed Prince Caspian. Beautiful scenery!

Too bad about NZ, that was also beautiful scenery in LOTR.

Shoot yourself in the other foot, unions!


30 posted on 10/20/2010 2:05:02 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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To: submarinerswife

You saw the other movies Jackson made on this subject,
wouldn’t you like to be able to integrate the shire in the new movies?
It is a tourist attraction there from what i am told.
BUT screw the unions.
Also New Zealand seems so beautiful.
There and Iceland are where I’ve not been and would like to.


31 posted on 10/20/2010 2:38:43 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Less gubmint is best gubmint.)
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To: submarinerswife

You saw the other movies Jackson made on this subject,
wouldn’t you like to be able to integrate the shire in the new movies?
It is a tourist attraction there from what i am told.
BUT screw the unions.
Also New Zealand seems so beautiful.
There and Iceland are where I’ve not been and would like to.


32 posted on 10/20/2010 2:40:27 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Less gubmint is best gubmint.)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi; SuziQ
They’ve taken the Hobbits to Slovenia!

LOL, indeed. Well done.

33 posted on 10/20/2010 5:02:50 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: frithguild; Corin Stormhands; 2Jedismom; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; ecurbh; HairOfTheDog; 300winmag
I love Cheetos. They are like Lembas, but without the leaves.

Nah... Lembas is more like Nilla wafers.

34 posted on 10/20/2010 5:04:32 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Joe Boucher

Jackson filmed parts of “Lion, Witch & the Wardrobe” in Eastern Europe as well as New Zealand. He’s in a good position to compare the two.


35 posted on 10/20/2010 5:06:46 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Not just nerds in the basement like these books. Even Oxford Dons read them. Heck, one even wrote them.

I think the cliche "Lighten up, Francis" was invented in anticipation of your reaction. ;)

36 posted on 10/20/2010 5:34:01 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!--Dr. Strangelove)
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To: frithguild
I love Cheetos

The LOTR fans must have gotten together and used their Official LOTR Mood Rings on me, because since I wrote that I've been hankering for Cheetos, damnit.

37 posted on 10/20/2010 5:36:01 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!--Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Jackson filmed parts of “Lion, Witch & the Wardrobe” in Eastern Europe as well as New Zealand.

Peter Jackson wasn't involved with the Narnia movies.

38 posted on 10/20/2010 8:52:18 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I only read the Constitution for the Articles.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

You’re correct. Not sure what made me confuse him with Andrew Adamson.


39 posted on 10/20/2010 8:56:23 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

s’ok

Lewis and Tolkien would’ve laughed about it over a couple of pints.


40 posted on 10/20/2010 9:02:53 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I only read the Constitution for the Articles.)
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To: Corin Stormhands; 2Jedismom; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; ecurbh; HairOfTheDog; 300winmag; SuziQ

An update: Seems the NZ government is getting concerned:

http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424052702304023804575565700801109176-lMyQjAxMTAwMDIwMTEyNDEyWj.html

WELLINGTON, New Zealand—The prospect of losing a two-part, US$500 million “Lord of the Rings” prequel has prompted New Zealand Prime Minister John Key to act.

Just four months before principal photography was due to begin, director Peter Jackson warned Thursday that Time Warner Inc.’s New Line Cinema will move production of the “The Hobbit”—beset by labor uncertainly—out of the country. New Zealand Actors’ Equity union, which had called on actors around the world to refuse to work on the film, appeared to back down after Mr. Jackson’s warning, with Actors’ Equity organizer Frances Walsh declaring “industrial issues” no longer a barrier.

Peter Jackson’s ‘The Lord of the Rings’ trilogy really put New Zealand on the film-production map.
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“The damage has already been done,” said a spokesman for Mr. Jackson’s company, Wingnut Films.

Economic and Development Minister Gerry Brownlee agreed. “Sending a message internationally that this was an environment where you have unstable employment relations is absolutely disastrous.”

So Mr. Key has stepped up; he and members of his government want to meet with Warner executives here to discuss what can be done to make sure New Zealand doesn’t lose the blockbuster. According to New Line spokeswoman Candice McDonough, the California-based company hasn’t decided where to make the film; she declined to comment on whether production executives would meet with Mr. Key.

[...]

[more at link]


41 posted on 10/21/2010 6:54:53 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius
Nah... Lembas is more like Nilla wafers.

It's like a flat cornbread.

I can hope they work it out to stay in NZ... just for the scenery, not for the actions of the actor's union.

I mean.... Hobbiton is there. And I'd imagine, work was ongoing to bring it back to what it was for Fellowship.

It'd be a shame to use another location that would perhaps be not quite as right.

42 posted on 10/21/2010 8:47:44 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; Ramius; Corin Stormhands

I was never fond of unions, but I really hate them now. Yes Hair, Hobbitton has not only been replanted and refurbished, it has been expanded.


43 posted on 10/21/2010 9:43:48 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Personal Responsibility
I’m a proud D&D geek and can easily lift and wield a sword like Anduril although I’m a bit out of practice with a 40” blade. I have a great job, a house, a son an ex-wife and a girlfriend. Not all of us are basement dwelling Cheeto lovers. Not even most of us, to be honest. You’d probably be surprised.

D&D geek here, too. Married with 3 kids, a house, and a dog. Assistant coach of my son's little league team. Productive member of society.

But I like Cheetos, I admit. Can't have them as I'm low-carbing, but I do like them.

44 posted on 10/21/2010 10:05:01 AM PDT by kevkrom (De-fund Obamacare in 2011, repeal in 2013!)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Ramius
I mean.... Hobbiton is there. And I'd imagine, work was ongoing to bring it back to what it was for Fellowship.

So true! And those mountains, Gandalf; they are just stunning!

45 posted on 10/22/2010 9:50:03 AM PDT by SuziQ
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