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Where on Earth has our water come from?
Highlights in Chemical Science ^ | Friday October 22, 2010 | Rebecca Brodie

Posted on 10/25/2010 6:37:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Evidence that water came to Earth during its formation from cosmic dust, rather than following later in asteroids, has been shown by a group of international scientists.

The origin of the abundant levels of water on Earth has long been debated with the main differences in the theories being the nature of the material that carries the water, and whether the water came during or after planet formation.

Now, Nora de Leeuw at University College London, UK, and colleagues have used molecular-level calculations to prove that dissociative chemisorption of water onto the surface of olivine rich minerals, such as forsterite, is highly exothermic. And so when these mineral dust particles came together during Earth formation, gas-solid interactions could have resulted in water being adsorbed onto the surface of the dust particles. This means that water could have been part of the Earth from the very beginning.

Water could have been adsorbed onto minerals that created the Earth

'Our calculations indicate that it is viable for water to become adsorbed at the surfaces of dust particles in the interstellar medium, where planets are formed. The water is thus trapped and becomes incorporated into the Earth,' says de Leeuw.

De Leeuw's work challenges the common assumption made by astronomers that the Earth's water originated from bodies in the asteroid belt. 'The work will be of tremendous interest to those modelling the geology and habitability of extrasolar terrestrial planets,' comments Philip Armitage, an expert in astrophysical and planetary sciences at the University of Colorado, Boulder, US.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: asteroid; asteroids; catastrophism; fauxiantrolls; lunarcapture; lunarorigin; moon; themoon; xplanets

1 posted on 10/25/2010 6:37:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 10/25/2010 6:38:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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3 posted on 10/25/2010 6:39:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well I just took a leak.....


4 posted on 10/25/2010 6:41:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SunkenCiv

Just guess’s, some of them not even educated guess’s/


5 posted on 10/25/2010 6:43:54 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: SunkenCiv
I am pretty sure that my water came from here first.
6 posted on 10/25/2010 6:45:18 PM PDT by mirkwood (Paul LePage for governor)
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To: SunkenCiv

I bet God was glad to hear this.


7 posted on 10/25/2010 6:47:25 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: SunkenCiv
This means that water could have been part of the Earth from the very beginning.

Well, OK. What's so controversial about that?

8 posted on 10/25/2010 6:48:17 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: SunkenCiv

From the faucet.


9 posted on 10/25/2010 6:48:17 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: mirkwood

Cosmic colostrum?


10 posted on 10/25/2010 6:48:51 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 642 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Water is likely to have been sourced in original minerasls and objects bombarding the forming planet. The minerals forming in space would have picked up water molecules before slamming into the early earth. The interesting thing is to understand how it is that a particular zone of solar system formations favors water over another region of the forming solar system. Since all the stuff of planets and stars now existing came from the furnaces of earlier stars, why did a general region of higher concentrations of water happen in our solar system?


11 posted on 10/25/2010 6:50:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Your initial sentence seems to slightly contradict the last sentence.


12 posted on 10/25/2010 6:53:36 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: SunkenCiv

See Genesis 1


13 posted on 10/25/2010 6:58:10 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: SunkenCiv

I’ve always been curious about this question. I have yet to hear a theory that totally makes sense to me. It’s quite remarkable how MUCH water is on our planet. The only thing that we can say with certainty, water either formed here during the formation of the planet, or after. Either way, it came from ‘outer space’, because the ENTIRE planet came from ‘outer space’(it wasn’t always here). The Iron in your blood came from a Super Nova that happened at some time in the past, along with the raw materials that were used to create virtually everything in the room around you.


14 posted on 10/25/2010 7:01:38 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Soothesayer9

During the formation of the gravity well that is earth at this particular distance from our star, water would have been attached )adsorbed) to the minerals and ‘star dust’ which was aggregating to form earth, plus the orbital pathway earth travels would have been ‘swept’ by the orbiting planet as it formed. If you look at the materials in abundance on the various planets, it appears that Earth and Mars and the asteroid belt are in a zonal distance from the star which is water rich, so to speak. Why, for instance, does earth have so much water and Saturn does not? And why are certain sized moons richer in water than other moons orbiting the gas giants?


15 posted on 10/25/2010 7:02:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Does this mean that the “rising seas” claimed by the global warming cabal are due (if in fact the seas are rising) to cosmic dust and bits of the “dirty snowballs” of comets?

If so, I wonder who’s financing this scientist’s research.


16 posted on 10/25/2010 7:02:39 PM PDT by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government footprint!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Where on Earth has our water come from?

Probably from an awful lot of hydrogen burning in the presence of oxygen.

17 posted on 10/25/2010 7:02:39 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Um . . . If I should be so bold . . . ah . . . er . . . God?


18 posted on 10/25/2010 7:02:43 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: SunkenCiv
Probably from some variant of the CNO Nucleosynthesis Process
and some residual Protons hanging around...


19 posted on 10/25/2010 7:06:48 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: mirkwood

Gigantic picture of a bodice, I don’t get it and the guys with dial up are cursing you right now.


20 posted on 10/25/2010 7:09:58 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL nice


21 posted on 10/25/2010 7:11:17 PM PDT by Ladysmith ("A community organizer can't bitch when communities organize." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: SunkenCiv

Genesis 1 has the answer I believe...


22 posted on 10/25/2010 7:12:54 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's Easy! Use FR to Pimp Your Blog!)
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To: SunkenCiv
FUnny thing about our water supply:
About 97% of the water is salt water, only 3% is freshwater.
About 97% of the freshwater is frozen.
23 posted on 10/25/2010 7:19:15 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: MHGinTN
Europa is estimated to have 3 times more water than Earth.
24 posted on 10/25/2010 7:29:31 PM PDT by JPG (Sarah Palin says: "Buck-up or get out of the truck.")
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To: Tanniker Smith

We are in an Ice Age and have been for just over 2 million years. Ice age conditions are drought conditions ~ sometimes really bad, and sometimes horrid!


25 posted on 10/25/2010 7:32:32 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Tanniker Smith

:’)


26 posted on 10/25/2010 7:36:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: HangnJudge

Danged Protons, always hangin’ around...


27 posted on 10/25/2010 7:36:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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28 posted on 10/25/2010 7:42:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: dangerdoc
Gigantic picture of a bodice, I don’t get it

Maybe it's his mommy...

29 posted on 10/25/2010 7:42:17 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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G’night all!

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30 posted on 10/25/2010 7:44:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: dangerdoc
Gigantic picture of a bodice, I don’t get it

Well, it wasn't exactly water he was referring to.

31 posted on 10/25/2010 7:47:30 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Where did life on earth come from?


32 posted on 10/25/2010 7:48:08 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: SunkenCiv

From underground. “Let the firmament (ground) divide the waters from the waters.” Flood: “And the fountains of the deep broke open...”


33 posted on 10/25/2010 8:23:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: dangerdoc

Did you have a mom? did she have boobs?


34 posted on 10/25/2010 9:02:25 PM PDT by mirkwood (Paul LePage for governor)
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To: HangnJudge

I am listening to jackie Martling.


35 posted on 10/25/2010 9:07:55 PM PDT by mirkwood (Paul LePage for governor)
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To: dangerdoc

I keep reading your reply, and Jackie the Jokeman gets funnier.


36 posted on 10/25/2010 9:12:05 PM PDT by mirkwood (Paul LePage for governor)
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To: SunkenCiv
Was going to post a link to an even older article concerning Frank's observation, but you beat me to it.

An inch of water, every 20,000 yrs, at current era rates But what I was really looking for and could not find was a reference/links to mention of the earth being constantly bombarded with water molecules.

The discovery was made somewhat accidentally, in that the observations came from satellites designed for other causes (was it studying earth's albedo? ...I cannot clearly recall). As I do recall, it was the gear on the second satellite which confirmed the finding. The original signals from the first were thought to be instrument noise of some sort. With the second, they were able to isolate the wavelength of that part of the returns spectrum, confirming "water molecules".

So, is there a direct connection between this high-altitude, coming from-from-space molecular water bombardment, and the "house size" carbon shelled snowballs of Franks's observations/and explanation, I wonder?

A rolling stone might not gather much moss, but this planet we are on seems to be collecting more than just the constant left-overs/physical residue of sunlight.

We're moving along at a pretty good clip, too, as we move along with our nearby star, shadowing it's movements even as we circle it, every uh, year or so...

I'm somewhat amazed we don't run into more rocks than we seem to have, recently.

All in the Lord's own time, I suppose. Prophetic warnings of large stones falling from the sky really are not that far-fetched. All that would need occur is for our planet to enter a zone more littered with rocky debris than we typically do, while following along with our star's direction, and velocity.

37 posted on 10/25/2010 9:46:56 PM PDT by BlueDragon (....other than that we aint nothin' just good 'ol boys...)
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To: KoRn; SunkenCiv; All

The book “Comet” by Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan says that comets were a significant source of water on early earth. There were many times the number of comets then than there are now. Also, volcanic eruptions also bring water to the surface. The escape velocity from earth is significantly higher than for mars which is why most of the volatiles water vapor, etc.) have escaped from Mars, but not from earth.


38 posted on 10/25/2010 11:25:38 PM PDT by gleeaikin (question authority)
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To: SunkenCiv
Where on Earth has our water come from?

One possible source could be the million years of rain that fell during Earth's formation.

39 posted on 04/14/2014 8:49:18 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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