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Cops caught having sex on duty
KING 5 TV (Seattle) ^ | 11/9/2010 | Linda Byron

Posted on 11/09/2010 8:38:23 AM PST by llevrok

A police officer's most powerful weapon isn't a gun, it’s the badge. The badge commands respect and demands a code of conduct for those who wear it. But what should be done when officers violate the codes they've sworn to uphold?

Mill Creek Police Department

Mill Creek Police Chief Bob Crannell faced that question when allegations surfaced earlier this year that two of his patrol officers were having secret sexual rendezvous. The incidents happened at an abandoned house, in a nature preserve, and at a construction site - all while on duty.

"I was very surprised,” said Chief Crannell. Both were experienced officers with unblemished records. He said handling the case was “extremely difficult” because he knew the officers and their families well.

Mill Creek is a small department with just 26 sworn officers.

Chief Crannell put the two officers on paid leave and handed over the case to an outside investigator. That investigator interviewed more than a dozen officers and reviewed hundreds of documents including dispatch records, e-mails and text messages.

The investigation cost Mill Creek $18,000. The conclusion: The two officers "engaged in sexual activity while on duty approximately ten times ... even though they understood their behavior was inappropriate.”

“I think the public has the expectation that police are ethical and moral and they are sworn to uphold the law and act as a model for the community and in this case those two officers failed that obligation,” said Crannell.

The chief warned the officers they would probably be fired for conduct unbecoming and neglect of duty if the case went to a disciplinary hearing.

"Absent sufficient and convincing circumstances or exonerating facts there was a high likelihood would have terminated them,” said Crannell.

Both officers resigned.

Were Mill Creek’s actions too harsh? For answers, we went to a national expert on police ethics. Neil Melton is head of the state board that regulates the practice of law enforcement in Minnesota.

"Yes, it's fair. They're paid by the public to serve and protect the public. To remove yourself from public service by having sex on duty absolutely violates the trust of the citizens,” said Melton.

Bellevue Police Department

This isn't just happening at one police department. We found a similar case in Bellevue. It also involved allegations of sex on duty but it was handled much differently. Mill Creek's investigation lasted two months. Bellevue's just three days.

The Bellevue case involved a male officer with eight years on the department and a female dispatcher. According to an internal report obtained by the KING 5 Investigators, in 2008 the two had sexual relations while on and off duty in the police administrative office in Bellevue City Hall, including a bathroom and conference room used by the chief and command staff.

"My first reaction was shock. Certainly, because I knew the employee, he worked directly for me,” said Bellevue Police Chief Linda Pillo.

In fact, he worked in the chief’s office. But she didn’t learn of the allegations until 2009. She immediately launched an investigation.

During extensive questioning the dispatcher said she and the officer had sex in the police department at least eleven times and that one of those times caused a delay in the officer performing police duties.

A suspect had stolen a police car and hit two people. But the officer was in the bathroom having sex when he was needed to help send out a press release. Even so, he was never fully questioned.

"The officer took full responsibility immediately. And there really were no questions about what the other employee had said,” said Pillo.

The chief offered him a deal: he could go back to patrol with a 4 percent pay cut and she would drop the investigation.

It's a decision that has some officers quietly seething.

"It was a discipline that I feel was appropriate and sent a strong message that that type of behavior was not tolerated in this police department,” said Pillo.

“Some people tell us, in your own department, that it sent a message that he got away with it,” said reporter Linda Byron.

“Well I'm sorry to hear that, because he did not get away with it,” said Pillo.

Melton says the Bellevue officer should have been fired.

“I don't think that's an acceptable outcome, would people perceive this as it being swept under the rug? Did this officer receive preferential treatment? I don't think the public good is served by a decision like that,” said Melton.

Sex in the workplace isn't a crime and it happens in the private sector, too. But the badge that commands respect, demands it, too.

"Because if the public doesn't have faith that the police can police themselves, then we've lost all credibility,” said Melton.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: codeofsilence; cultureofcorruption; donutwatch; publicsex; quickie
Ummm....less calories than doughnuts?
1 posted on 11/09/2010 8:38:26 AM PST by llevrok
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

That was no night stick ping


2 posted on 11/09/2010 8:40:01 AM PST by llevrok (Born a ham but never cured)
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To: llevrok

They were just getting back to nature at the nature preserve.


3 posted on 11/09/2010 8:42:48 AM PST by boomop1
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To: llevrok
"Because if the public doesn't have faith that the police can police themselves, then we've lost all credibility,” said Melton.

That train left the station a long time ago.

4 posted on 11/09/2010 8:42:48 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: llevrok

“Because if the public doesn’t have faith that the police can police themselves, then we’ve lost all credibility,” said Melton.

Yet Clintoon went on being President!

Apparently we hold cops to a higher standard than the President of the United States.


5 posted on 11/09/2010 8:43:01 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: llevrok

...and the police chief’s name is Pillo? Sometimes this stuff is just too good, must be Karma or something.


6 posted on 11/09/2010 8:43:06 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: llevrok

Sex in a bathroom? Yuck.


7 posted on 11/09/2010 8:43:14 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: llevrok

The sexes of the first couple were never mentioned. Just the second “similar” case in Bellvue where it was a man and a woman.

Release the names. They are adults.

Even an “accused” adult sees his name printed in the paper.


8 posted on 11/09/2010 8:43:29 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: llevrok

Jeeze, couldn’t they have waited till they were off duty. This is so “William Jefferson Clinton-esque”


9 posted on 11/09/2010 8:45:50 AM PST by Amerikan_Samurai
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To: llevrok

My question also. Which is a sad reflection on us and our society.


10 posted on 11/09/2010 8:46:02 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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To: llevrok

Old saying: The badge will get you sex, and the sex will get your badge.


11 posted on 11/09/2010 8:46:38 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: llevrok

Heck, I thought it was going to be about my local police department until I read it was 2 police officers. In my town it was a police officer and the mayor. Neighbors wondered why a police car was always in front of the mayor’s house.


12 posted on 11/09/2010 8:49:19 AM PST by muggs (Hope and Change = Hoax and Chains)
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To: llevrok

The important thing to remember here is that this problem occurs in many more areas of public trust, than local Law Enforcement.


13 posted on 11/09/2010 8:51:52 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: a fool in paradise

the fact the newspaper is covering suggests it is a homosexual couple in both cases and the implied is just more cover.


14 posted on 11/09/2010 8:52:46 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Amerikan_Samurai

Jeeze, couldn’t they have waited till they were off duty. This is so “William Jefferson Clinton-esque”

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That might have been harder to do off duty, if they were expected back at the house with family.


15 posted on 11/09/2010 8:55:51 AM PST by Psalm 144
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To: llevrok

The lady chief handled this problem better than the male chief. Sex with a willing partner isn’t a good reason for job termination. Is it really worse than sleeping on the job or sitting in a diner eating donuts?


16 posted on 11/09/2010 8:58:39 AM PST by devere
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To: llevrok
"I was very surprised,” said Chief Crannell.

He is probably the only one surprised then. It would be easier to count the number of officers in our town who don't have sex on duty (with someone other than their wife) than to count the ones who don't. It's no secret (many times not even to the wife).

That is one reason (among many others) that we have a new sheriff. It's hard to get and keep good people when they are paid crap and work in an atmosphere where many are doing not only unethical things but sometimes criminal things.

We found out that one deputy was having sex with a snitch.

17 posted on 11/09/2010 9:00:08 AM PST by kcvl
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To: llevrok
A suspect had stolen a police car and hit two people. But the officer was in the bathroom having sex when he was needed to help send out a press release

He was late sending a press release? LOL!

An executive in the company I work for was caught boffing a secretary in the Men's room during a fire drill. I believe he was fired that same day.

18 posted on 11/09/2010 9:04:13 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Defund National Peoples Radio!! Democrats are for free speech. Just not for you.)
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To: llevrok

19 posted on 11/09/2010 9:07:29 AM PST by fso301
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To: devere
Sex with a willing partner isn’t a good reason for job termination.

Boss: I'm going to get right to the point. It has come to my attention that you and the cleaning woman have engaged in sexual intercourse on the desk in your office. Is that correct?

George: Who said that?

Boss: She did.

George: Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ingnorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you peope do that all the time.

Boss: You're fired.

George: Well you didn't have to say it like that.

Boss: I want you out of here by the end of the day.

George: What about the whole Christmas spirit thing? Any flexability there?

Boss: Nah. Wait, wait, she wanted me to give you this.

He tosses the sweater and it lands right on top of George's face. George walks out of the office "wearing" it.

In the hall of the office.

Elaine: You had sex on your desk with the cleaning woman.

George: You never had sex in the office before?

Elaine: No. I once made out with someone but that was it.

George: Alright so you made out with someone.

Elaine: Well that's not sex.

George: Kissing is sex.

Elaine: Kissing is not sex.


20 posted on 11/09/2010 9:08:47 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: llevrok
The badge...demands a code of conduct for those who wear it.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!

OK...now I can read the story.

21 posted on 11/09/2010 9:10:36 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (If exercising the right to free speech invites violence, then girls in short skirts invite rape.)
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To: llevrok; Larry Lucido; Cagey; MotleyGirl70; Gamecock

Interrogation video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reJpj-rrsVQ

“Was that wrong?”


22 posted on 11/09/2010 9:12:12 AM PST by earlJam
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To: a fool in paradise
The sexes of the first couple were never mentioned.

Yeah. I noticed that, too. DADT?

23 posted on 11/09/2010 9:15:00 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SeaHawkFan
That train not only left the station a long time ago, I believe that the engine used on that train is now in a museum.

Police do not "protect" us per se, and never have. They provide some deterance and when that doesn't work they take reports. Protect? Naa. Get yourself a Glock if you want protection.

24 posted on 11/09/2010 9:15:31 AM PST by mc5cents
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To: llevrok

Cops are notorious for having sex with married women while their husbands work

if you hear there was a cop car in your driveway that day then call a lawyer


25 posted on 11/09/2010 9:16:54 AM PST by wardaddy (diversity is only good if you are young and unmarried and chasing women)
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To: llevrok
Both officers resigned.

Now, they can be hired by another department and their new Chief can claim that they have "unblemished records" the next time they are caught.

26 posted on 11/09/2010 9:19:39 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (If exercising the right to free speech invites violence, then girls in short skirts invite rape.)
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To: llevrok

So I guess we’re just assuming the two officers were a male and female


27 posted on 11/09/2010 9:33:08 AM PST by wally-balls
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To: kcvl
paid crap

Do you consider a base salary of $64,008 - $79,003* crap? Especially when they get a fair amount of overtime.

*City of Chicago police base salary

28 posted on 11/09/2010 9:41:29 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga

I consider Starting Salary of $26900.00 ...After 1 year - $29942.00 a crap salary which is exactly what it is in South Arkansas.


29 posted on 11/09/2010 9:48:18 AM PST by kcvl
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To: devere
All of them should have been fired,not allowed to resign or "punished" with a nominal pay cut.

Such officers betrayed the public trust they swore to uphold,therefore out they should go!

30 posted on 11/09/2010 9:53:04 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: UCANSEE2

“The important thing to remember here is that this problem occurs in many more areas of public trust, than local Law Enforcement.”

This is WAY more common than this author assumes. Happens all the time. GPS on patrol vehicles have reduced this.(Officer out of zone, etc)


31 posted on 11/09/2010 10:04:30 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: llevrok
Curious if you posted this to General Chat or if it was moved there from News/Activism.
32 posted on 11/09/2010 11:42:48 AM PST by Ken H
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To: wally-balls
So I guess we’re just assuming the two officers were a male and female

This was in the Seattle area so don't count on that. ;-)

33 posted on 11/09/2010 1:23:44 PM PST by llevrok (Born a ham but never cured)
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To: llevrok

Well, at least one was female.


34 posted on 11/09/2010 1:35:21 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: kcvl
After 1 year - $29942.00 a crap salary which is exactly what it is in South Arkansas.

And yet apparently people are willing to accept the salary. Perhaps that is all the job is worth.

35 posted on 11/10/2010 4:11:27 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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