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Mitch Daniels in 2012

Posted on 11/09/2010 9:52:35 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Can anyone tell me about Mitch Daniels?

My Conservative good friend goes on and on about how perfect he is to save us and that we need a technocrat like Daniels in the WH.

I wanna hear the good and bad about him.

Thanks.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: daniels; mitch; vanity

1 posted on 11/09/2010 9:52:42 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

From his recent statements he might make a better Secretary of the Treasury than President.


2 posted on 11/09/2010 9:54:28 AM PST by Patrick1 (I'm a soldier of good fortune, I'm guarding the Yucatan.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608758/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2587577/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2577241/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2570750/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2568202/posts

The only thing he’ll ‘save’ is the election for the Dems.


3 posted on 11/09/2010 9:56:31 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Thanks, its getting old hearing how perfect this guy is from my friend.


4 posted on 11/09/2010 9:57:40 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

No thanks. He is being promoted by the state-run media, all I need to know. Recently talked something about using a VAT tax. Nope.


5 posted on 11/09/2010 9:57:56 AM PST by libbylu
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Anyone that believes in Daylight Savings Time cannot be trusted.


6 posted on 11/09/2010 10:00:29 AM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Gov. Daniels says that Republicans shouldn’t mention any social issues. I hope that he’ll never become president, U.S. senator, or congressman. He’d be a good secretary of commerce.


7 posted on 11/09/2010 10:05:52 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: ChicagoConservative27

He’s boring to listen to. No charisma.


8 posted on 11/09/2010 10:09:31 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I posted his bio a while back but i forget where I got it. I’ll try later to locate.


9 posted on 11/09/2010 10:09:36 AM PST by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It looks like Pawlenty, Daniels, Thune, and of course Romney are all lining up to be the anti-Palin.

Daniels disqualified himself by belittling social issues.

Thune has not been a governor, and some people think we really need a natural executive.

Pawlenty is running, and he generates about as much excitement as Howard Baker in 1980 and Lamar! Alexander in 1996, or was it 2000?


10 posted on 11/09/2010 10:15:13 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

We just went through the fight of the century stopping Obama’s runaway train.

I don’t remember Daniels playing any significant role.


11 posted on 11/09/2010 10:16:13 AM PST by marron
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To: ChicagoConservative27


Bush is 5'11". So I'm guessing Daniels is about 5'4".
12 posted on 11/09/2010 10:16:35 AM PST by nhwingut (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

No. Okay as governor, but not POTUS.


13 posted on 11/09/2010 10:17:39 AM PST by dforest
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To: smokingfrog

Yeah, and he put Indiana in the Eastern time zone. Should have been Central time.


14 posted on 11/09/2010 10:19:10 AM PST by dforest
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To: Dr. Sivana; All

He is right...


15 posted on 11/09/2010 10:21:14 AM PST by KevinDavis (President Obama: The Crybaby in Chief...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yuck, not really a full conservative, been OK as a gov, but I’d rather someone like Mike Pence (who doesn’t want social conservatives to “shut-up and go to the back of the bus” like Mitch Daniels does.

IMO, M. Daniels, is the RINO/Establishment pick in 2010 if Romney fizzles out and burns..


16 posted on 11/09/2010 10:28:15 AM PST by JSDude1 (http://novemberspeaks.com/)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The good:

-Mitch believes in privatization. He’s privatized roads in the state at tremendous cost savings to the taxpayers and he also privatized welfare, which didn’t work out as well.

-He’s willing to admit when he’s made a mistake, like he did on when he transfered the welfare office to IBM.

-He’s great at streamlining government and making it more effective. Through cuts in government spending, he balanced the state’s budget—a $600m deficit to a $300m surplus in one year. One of his signature accomplishments was overhauling the Indiana Bureau of Motor Vehicles. Ten years ago, the Indiana BMV was rated worst in the country; now it is one of the top-rated.

-He’s very knowledgeable and knows policy details. He won’t get out-debated.

-He’s been a big champion of lower spending and lower taxes. He recently campaigned, successfully, for a constitutional amendment that limits Indiana’s property tax to 1% of a home’s value.

-He’s prudent. Two years ago, the Democrats, who at that time controlled the state legislature, were pushing to spend all of Indiana’s rainy-day fund. Daniels successfully fought the Ds on this issue and, because of that, the state is in much better shape than it otherwise would be, despite relatively high unemployment.

-He has executive experience. He worked in the White House as the Director of Bush’s OMB and has won two terms as Indiana’s governor.

-He can win elections. He beat an incumbent governor to win office in his first term and won a second term by 20 points in a state that Obama carried.

The bad:

He’s made some goofs as governor.

-When he was first elected, he pushed for a temporary income tax increase on people making more than $100,000. This idea was quickly snuffed out by the Republican-legislature. (The good—Daniels learns his lessons; since then, he has been in favor of tax decreases)

-The person that he appointed to run the overhaul of Indiana’s BMV turned out to have some skeletons in his closet. The BMV was much improved, but it didn’t look like Mitch did his due diligence on this guy.

-Some people don’t like the fact that he privatized some roads by leasing them to companies based overseas.

-Although not a national issue, some people don’t like that he implemented Daylight Saving Time in Indiana.

-He has typically not taken positions on social issues.

The Either Good or Bad:

Daniels has said that the Republican presidential candidate should ignore social issues and focus on economic issues until the economy improves. Some people believe that this is a prudent way to win the presidency, while others believe that it is “selling out.”


17 posted on 11/09/2010 10:30:58 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: ChicagoConservative27
I wanna hear the good and bad about him.

In his recent interview on Fox he stated that he believed in "Means Testing" for Social Security. The way I translate that comment is: "The people who have paid the most into the system should get the least (or nothing at all) out of it.

That is NOT a Conservative position.....that is more of a "Redistribution of Wealth" position that would be more at home with the Democrat Party. Our party should not be initiating class warfare.

18 posted on 11/09/2010 10:36:20 AM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Publius Valerius

Seems the good out ways the bad


19 posted on 11/09/2010 10:36:20 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Seems the good out ways the bad

And...he increased Indiana State sales tax by 17%!

20 posted on 11/09/2010 10:52:36 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: sonofagun

Unreal, dunno what to think of this guy.


21 posted on 11/09/2010 10:53:45 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I know he recently deprived a House district in Indiana of a prompt special election to fill a vacant House seat.


22 posted on 11/09/2010 10:54:51 AM PST by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: mewzilla

See post 21.


23 posted on 11/09/2010 10:55:31 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: libbylu

REally?
I haven’t heard anything like that.
He’s said repeatedly that he’s committed to reducing the state budget and continuing fiscal stability WITHOUT raising taxes.

I like him.


24 posted on 11/09/2010 10:55:50 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Pass. He's the one who came out for a "truce" on social issues. In other words, surrender to the left.

No thanks.
25 posted on 11/09/2010 10:56:42 AM PST by Antoninus (Fair warning: If Romney's the GOP nominee in 2012, I'm looking for a new party.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

FWIW, I wouldn’t vote for the guy for dog catcher.


26 posted on 11/09/2010 10:58:29 AM PST by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: SJSAMPLE
I like him.

Between his penchant for taxes and his dismissal of social issues, I find him undesirable to represent the Republican Party in Washington, much less as POTUS.

And he's my governor.

27 posted on 11/09/2010 11:01:02 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Publius Valerius

I think that’s a very fair and balanced and substantive summary. I would add that as Director of OMB under President Bush, he earned the nickname “Mitch the Knife” for trimming budgets and spending proposals. Most of Bush’s problems with over-spending came after Daniels left OMB.

I also think it’s worth qualifying a couple of things in your and earlier posts:

Mitch isn’t against conservative social issues, he just believes that the primary focus needs to be on economic issues while this country remains in such miserable share with high unemployment and stagnant growth and structural deficits as far as the eye can see.

My guess is that he would be very good at re-establishing Federal Responsibility: making States be accountable for the problems they bring upon themselves. He would be very much against any kind of bailout of California, NY, ILL, etc. after what he put Indiana through to get its fiscal house in order.

Finally, on his being open to the VAT, I think he said that within the context of an overall reform of the tax code. I know that may sound foolish and providing an opening to the tax-and-spend loving Dems, so I guess he can be criticized for providing that opening.

I hope this helps to fill out your excellent summary but please feel free to edit/correct anything I’m suggesting here. JMHO.


28 posted on 11/09/2010 11:02:36 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: sonofagun

Mine, too.


29 posted on 11/09/2010 11:03:52 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Mitch Daniels is a NoGo!

Our Republic cannot be saved by s leader who is unwilling to stand up against the murder of innocent, defenseless human life!

Yeah, maybe Secretary of Treasury, or SEC Chairman, but no way as President.

30 posted on 11/09/2010 11:16:36 AM PST by J Edgar
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To: ChicagoConservative27

An outstanding, no nonsense, straight talking Governor who does not suffer fools well. He has kept Indiana upright while all of the states around us floundered. He has a decent record on the social issues though he does not push them or let them get in the way of doing what needs to be done fiscally. He has appointed pro-life judges, is well liked by Indiana Right to Life and has a pretty fair rating from the NRA, but probably does not lead enough on these issue to satisfy the single issue voters here on Freeper. I am sure you will get a lot of responses condemning him for his statement about putting the social issues on the back burner until we get our fiscal house in order, but that is exactly what most of the GOP candidates did this year and it turned out pretty well it seemed to me.

He makes hard choices and p*sses off a lot of people doing it, but doesn’t seem to care. He believes strongly in the private sector, supports choice in education, has taken on the ISTA/NEA over education reform and believes in limited government. One of his favorite saying is, “People are often amazed at how little government they need”. When asked once about his opposition to more spending for third grade remedial reading courses, his answer was simple, “By the time a child reaches third grade we have already spent $43,000 trying to teach him to read. If that isn’t enough money then I think we have a systemic problem in how the school teaches reading not a problem with lack of funding.”

He is physically not your perfect candidate, kind of short and nerdy looking, and as mentioned earlier doesn’t mince words or worry to much about being PC. I’m not sure that will be such a detriment in 2012, we elected the president from central casting last time and look what it got us.

As you can probably guess I love the guy and think he would make s great president. He is experienced, has both government and private sector experience, is bright and has been successful at almost everything he done as far as I know.

Just to really make some heads explode here I will make some comparisons between him and the hated Mitt Romney. Both have successful private sector experience, Mitch has more varied governmental experience. Both are bright, and well educated, but Mitch connects much better with the average guy on the street. Mitch has none of the question hanging around him about his conservative bona fides. Mitt is better and more presidential looking. They are about the same age. Mitt married his HS sweetheart and is still married to her, Mitch got married, then divorced and then remarried his wife. Mitt has 3 boys, Mitch has 3 girls. Mitt’s wife is nice, but reserved. Mitch’s wife is a hoot and a favorite at the Indiana State Fair where she is a judge for numerous food and largest vegetable/fruit/pig/cow/etc. contests. She even participates in the cow milking contest every year.

I hope he runs, is nominated and takes Michele Bachmann as his running mate. The Country could do much worse.


31 posted on 11/09/2010 11:29:48 AM PST by redangus
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To: redangus

Despite my reservations, when the time comes I’ll give him a fair hearing.


32 posted on 11/09/2010 11:36:05 AM PST by marron
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To: redangus
I was a big supporter of Daniels until the VAT comment. That gave me a mild case of the willies....he needs to give a satisfactory explanation before I would support him.

I do agree that America is ready for a "nerdy", green-eyeshade President who will not sugar coat the fact that we are in for a number of years of austerity.

33 posted on 11/09/2010 12:02:16 PM PST by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: Retired COB

I agree that we should not be “means testing” Social Security and Medicare, but we are going to have to seriously cut those programs. If we don’t means test, then it will be across the board.


34 posted on 11/09/2010 12:04:50 PM PST by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I’ll find it for you when I have time. On politico and I think hotair.


35 posted on 11/09/2010 12:33:16 PM PST by libbylu
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To: SJSAMPLE

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43648.html
Links are everyone on google.


36 posted on 11/09/2010 12:35:12 PM PST by libbylu
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