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Do We Need A New Word For Treason?
Tea Party News ^ | November 10, 2010 | T.L. Davis

Posted on 11/10/2010 10:15:30 PM PST by Neil E. Wright

Say any word a thousand times and it loses its meaning. Yet, how could any act punishable by death lose its meaning? I don't care how many times I hear the word murder, it always pretty much holds the same weight as the first time I heard it. The same goes for rape. I heard the word many times and have seen it used superfluously as in: "They are raping the land!" Regardless, when I hear that word, it sparks an internal revulsion.

Treason seems to no longer hold that same revulsion. It is a co-opted word by those guilty of it. It is a word reserved for those who have gone against the government. But, when the government goes against the people in clear violation of the Constitution, the word never appears, or when it does it carries no weight whatsoever. So, one must ask oneself: "Why not?"


Why not, indeed.

A word like treason only holds meaning if it is enforced, if it represents a true and rational threat. Where there is no one to enforce the death penalty aspect to it, there is no meaning. Traditionally, we think of the consequences of treason more than the mere act of it. We might imagine the sneaky, late-night passing of communication between the treasonous agent and the beneficiary, but it is the stark sight of the firing squad that brings home the import of the act.

Another aspect to the act of treason that lends more weight to the word at one time rather than another is the immediacy of threat. When a nation is at war, treason is dealt with differently than when it serves to aid some distant military threat. I'm not sure that it should, but it is a fact. Part of that obviously comes from the lives put in danger dimension to a nation at war and the possibility of war.

In America today, we are at war. Treason is being committed. Lives are being put in danger as a result. This treason is open and clear, almost insultingly obvious, to anyone who cares to look. So, it must be the word that means nothing. I guess we need a new word for it. 


Cross-posted at WASHINGTON REBEL.


TOPICS: Education; History; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: constitution; corruption; freedom; treason
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No, I think TREASON just needs to be brought back into the lexicon of FREEDOM. Anyone who tries to subvert the Constitution, inside government or out, needs to be tried, convicted and SHOT for treason, i.e., subversion of the Constitution. No IFs, ANDs or BUTs.

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1 posted on 11/10/2010 10:15:33 PM PST by Neil E. Wright
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To: Neil E. Wright

I have one.Its called progressive.


2 posted on 11/10/2010 10:19:12 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Neil E. Wright
'Treason' seems to no longer hold that same revulsion.

Alright then, how about 'Obama'?

3 posted on 11/10/2010 10:22:52 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Neil E. Wright

All traitors should be hung from meat hooks with piano wire. And yes especially those in political office who commit this act need to be publically executed.


4 posted on 11/10/2010 10:23:59 PM PST by DarthVader (Nov 2 2010: That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: Neil E. Wright

How about McGerkie.


5 posted on 11/10/2010 10:30:22 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Treason requires an overt indictable act against the Republic.

If you want to dig in to the souls of men and prosecute bad thoughts, then you shall soon find your thoughts judged by the likes of me. Or whomever assumes control.

Being an America hating suckpump is not treason, it is simple freedom of expression.

6 posted on 11/10/2010 10:32:54 PM PST by mmercier
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To: Neil E. Wright
Do We Need A New Word For Treason?

No.

Just like the Constitution, let's use the one we have.

7 posted on 11/10/2010 10:34:29 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Neil E. Wright
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague".

Marcus Tullius Cicero

8 posted on 11/10/2010 10:35:38 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: DarthVader

You are a real piece of work.


9 posted on 11/10/2010 10:35:42 PM PST by mmercier
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To: mmercier

Whoever mentioned thoughts as treason? deeds yes,like leaking information so our enemies may see,yes.


10 posted on 11/10/2010 10:51:26 PM PST by Nooseman (mutt)
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To: Neil E. Wright

How about “democrat”.


11 posted on 11/10/2010 10:54:06 PM PST by MortMan (To Obama "Kill them all and let [God] sort them out" is an abortion slogan.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

One hellafied post.makes me feel like laerning even more history.now if i can juist remember!


12 posted on 11/10/2010 10:56:12 PM PST by Nooseman (mutt)
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To: DarthVader
shovel ready-1sm
13 posted on 11/10/2010 10:56:26 PM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: DarthVader
All traitors should be hung from meat hooks with piano wire. And yes especially those in political office who commit this act need to be publicly executed.

I get personal effing Mod warnings and suspensions when I state things that obviously.

Glad the word gets out anyway, despite my personal victimhood status...(sniff)...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

14 posted on 11/10/2010 11:04:27 PM PST by The Comedian (Time and tide wait for no man. But who needs a bad magazine and cheap soap?)
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To: Neil E. Wright
"Journalist"


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

15 posted on 11/10/2010 11:11:18 PM PST by The Comedian (Time and tide wait for no man. But who needs a bad magazine and cheap soap?)
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To: Nooseman

The fundamentals never change, never! People only think they’re smarter now.


16 posted on 11/10/2010 11:19:12 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
....Its called progressive.

Ding ding ding!!!!

We have a winner!

17 posted on 11/10/2010 11:25:18 PM PST by Bullish (Been to all 57 States.... Or is it 58?)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Some traitors, if they don't have the common sense to ready the helicopters, cut their losses and back down in light of the growing popular patriotic storms brewing around them, end up as mere, useless, throwaway postage stamps and historical irritants. Afterthoughts.


18 posted on 11/10/2010 11:30:30 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (We must be humble in victory, and GET TO WORK RIGHT AWAY while we have the anti-Obama Momentum)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Thank you again for great insight.Just like sports, its all in the fundamentals.


19 posted on 11/10/2010 11:32:57 PM PST by Nooseman (mutt)
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To: All

Bump


20 posted on 11/10/2010 11:33:02 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Job 1: Military ballots investigation; Job 2: Redistricting for GOP; Job 3: I.D. needed at polls)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Communists used to be seen as traitors.

Now it’s pretty clear it’s Democrats.


21 posted on 11/11/2010 12:09:50 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Nooseman
Kids in school grumble about having to study history, convincing them that they are actually looking at their future is the hard part.

Just change the dates and place names and the names of the actors, the play is pretty much the same.

Kids don't get much history now, and much of that has been revised. The revisionists should be hung.

You've got to make sure your kids don't buy the lies.

22 posted on 11/11/2010 12:12:46 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Nooseman

http://www.constitution.org/law/bastiat.htm

http://www.fee.org/pdf/books/The_Law.pdf


23 posted on 11/11/2010 12:19:25 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Neil E. Wright

There is only one person this year that has been treasonous and that was that kid who let over 60,000 pages of confidential papers on wikileaks. I don’t believe people use the term correctly.


24 posted on 11/11/2010 12:30:11 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Neil E. Wright

Treason is the only crime defined in the US constitution.

Article 3, Section 3. “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.”

We need to follow the constitution.


25 posted on 11/11/2010 12:39:56 AM PST by devere
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To: Neil E. Wright

Mohamicide!


26 posted on 11/11/2010 12:54:50 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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To: mmercier
Marxist Nazi left wing wacko, take a hike TROLL Image and video hosting by TinyPic
27 posted on 11/11/2010 1:28:50 AM PST by MtnMan101 (THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIALISUM IS THAT YOU EVENTUALLY RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Problem when i was young,and todays youth is they see the lie,but cant find the truth.


28 posted on 11/11/2010 2:36:40 AM PST by Nooseman (mutt)
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To: Nooseman

A good magician always makes sure you’re watching the hand he wants you to watch.


29 posted on 11/11/2010 2:41:21 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I know i was very angry once i started learning ,mongo mad!!


30 posted on 11/11/2010 3:29:27 AM PST by Nooseman (mutt)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Do We Need A New Word For Treason?

No, but need need to enforce the penalty for it.

31 posted on 11/11/2010 3:46:09 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Nooseman
I never got hooked on TV, always preferred to read. The next generation never had a chance. The "progressives" latched on to TV like white on rice right from the start. They still control most of it.

A lot of it is subtle and seems innocent but there is almost always a subliminal message.

Paranoia is a normal defense mechanism, within reason, not a mental illness. When you accept everything at face value, that is where the insanity begins.

We turned most of our kids over to the enemy to be programmed and raised.

32 posted on 11/11/2010 3:48:18 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Communist Goal #15: Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.


33 posted on 11/11/2010 3:57:32 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: BobP

Awesome!!


34 posted on 11/11/2010 3:59:51 AM PST by DarthVader (Nov 2 2010: That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The "progressives" latched on to TV like white on rice right from the start.

Communist Goal #20: Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

35 posted on 11/11/2010 4:03:22 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

It is relevant that this quote from Cicero was part of a speech by which he persuaded the Senate to suspend the Constitution and allow him to execute without trial anyone he suspected of being an Enemy of the State.

This created a very bad precedent for the Roman government and I really don’t think it’s one we want to follow.

Not that the Roman Republic wasn’t already on its last legs by this point.


36 posted on 11/11/2010 4:18:07 AM PST by Sherman Logan (You shall know the truth, and it shall piss you off)
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To: DarthVader

The problem is specifically that we have not enforced the consequences of the term. Historically it was summery execution. Today it is a status symbol among the elite.


37 posted on 11/11/2010 4:20:27 AM PST by Wildbill22
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To: who knows what evil?
I remember the romper room stuff my younger brother and sister watched, all touchy feely, non assertive go along to get along crap.

It sounds nice but it's totally removed from reality. The "progressive" goal, of course, is to create a new reality, but it's artificial and will require force to keep it going, like the old Soviet Union.

38 posted on 11/11/2010 4:26:32 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Sherman Logan

Our Constitution is pretty much suspended, by acts of treason.


39 posted on 11/11/2010 4:29:52 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I must have missed the hundreds of executions in the streets by agents of the government. Extrapolating to today’s numbers, make that tens of thousands.

Geez, I get tired of hyperbole. Our Constitution is in serious trouble, and has been since the Progressives decided it was an impediment to Progress back in the late 1800s.

But it has not yet been “suspended.”


40 posted on 11/11/2010 4:45:15 AM PST by Sherman Logan (You shall know the truth, and it shall piss you off)
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To: mmercier
"You are a real piece of work."

Darth is merely pointing out that treason is a capital offense that merits the death penalty in our country. Sadly, we no longer have the spine to carry out that sentence, so any politician who aids our Nation's enemies knows full well there will be no penalty.

While I do not share Darth's love of piano wire, I do support his wish for the death of all traitors in our country. It's common sense, and our unwillingness to employ it is an indicator or how weak-willed we have become as a poeple.

Frankly, if I was ruler, we would run out of rope real quick.

41 posted on 11/11/2010 5:38:13 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: Sherman Logan

It is ignored with impunity! There are tens of thousands of unconstitutional laws on the books, right this minute.


42 posted on 11/11/2010 5:53:56 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
A lot of it is subtle and seems innocent but there is almost always a subliminal message.

Not to really change the thread, but your comment hit me like a ton of bricks. I take my son to work at 5:00 am every morning. I have the radio on in the car, but ping pong to find music, DJ chatter at that time of day is ridiculous. This morning, Veteran's Day, every station was playing 'peace' music. By that I mean all the stuff from the 60's-90's garbage that is anti-American, anti-military and anti-war. Interspersed with the music was commercials of all the Veteran's Day activities in town. The hypocracy was thick.

43 posted on 11/11/2010 6:03:05 AM PST by Vor Lady
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To: Vor Lady

None of it has happened by accident. Hilary raved about a “great right wing conspiracy”. For some reason we’ve been afraid to talk about the great left wing conspiracy.


44 posted on 11/11/2010 6:18:43 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
afraid to talk about the great left wing conspiracy.

Roger that.

45 posted on 11/11/2010 6:24:38 AM PST by Vor Lady
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To: Neil E. Wright
The word "treason" hasn't lost it's meaning, or it's importance.

What we are lax in is our ENFORCEMENT. A rape or a murder harms one person, treason harms a Nation and can lead to rape and murder if that Nation falls. Treason, by even my libertarian standards, is the ultimate initiation of Fraud.

Then again, I think violation of USC Title 18 Sec 241/242 needs to be used more often as well.

I get accused of being an anarchist, nothing could be further from the truth. I want a smaller, more rational, code of laws that punish "real damage done" type crimes and to have those laws strictly enforced.

Having a million laws on the books makes real crimes like treason seem lesser by comparison.

Just my unsolicited dos centavos...

46 posted on 11/11/2010 6:37:44 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: I Buried My Guns
So you are both nitwits.

Dig up your guns, because you are going to need them.

We are not fighting some kind of resistance war in an occupied country, regardless of whatever paranoid delusions lie within the minds of some here.

You are defending a turd who wants to hang people on hooks with piano wire.

I and others can do that too. Even worse.

To demonstrate a desire to give license to anyone to unleash such mayhem is foolish at best. It simply demonstrates a desire for anarchy. Easy when behind a keyboard, not so much when you are up to your ass in the guts of the innocent and guilty who will be absorbed in the crapstorm unleashed.

I shall relinquish this topic to the retard nation, just like the fag threads, until I again get bored and have time to waste pissing on my boots.

47 posted on 11/11/2010 6:57:25 AM PST by mmercier
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To: Neil E. Wright

No because treason is defined in out Constitution. While laws against sedition come and go, treason (aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime) has never been “repealed” from the Constitution.

Just because Jimmy Carter was unwilling to prosecute the traitors who betrayed American in Vietnam in support of the North Vietnamese Communists (Jane Fonda, the Weather Underground, the Yippies, and others who conspired to stage riots in the streets, burn armories, pledge support to the Viet Cong, assassinate police and congressmen...), does not mean that the crime has become meaningless.

We had traitors in this war too. Nadil Hassan at Ft. Hood was a traitor and he was enabled by a fifth column in our US military who empowered him in the name of political correctness even though they KNEW he was communicating with Al Qaeda and making jihadist death threats against non-muslims.


48 posted on 11/11/2010 8:37:42 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: DarthVader

Too late to punish Jack Murtha and Ted Kennedy.

John Kerry has never been punished for lying to Congress about war crimes or participating in a “peace” group that plotted to assassinate congressmen until support for Vietnam War had waned.


49 posted on 11/11/2010 8:39:28 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: I Buried My Guns

Let me state that I do not support any vigilantism, I seek a prosecution for the crime of treason as defined by the constitution by the powers that are entrusted with such determination.


50 posted on 11/11/2010 8:41:29 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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