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Robert Ellsworth fmr Dep Sec of Defense says "Spectacular! Takes yr breath away! Sub launched ICBM!"
News 8 San Diego Video and Blog ^ | November 12th 2010 | Self

Posted on 11/12/2010 3:52:43 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009

Title of video is: Mysterious Missile Launches over Southern California Mystery Missile Launch "Lights Up the Sky" over LA: Watch the video and judge for yourself. Listen to the former Deputy Secretary of Defense, and former US Ambassador to NATO, Robert Ellsworth, and hear the laughing amazement in his voice as he tells the two reporters: "It is a big missile !!! Spectacular! Takes your breath away !!! Sub launched ICBM !!!" ... but what would he know?

(Excerpt) Read more at state-of-the-nation.com ...


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Robert Ellsworth, former Deputy Secretary of Defense says

"Spectacular! Takes you breath away! Sub launched ICBM missile !!!"

Take a look at the video and judge for yourself - I will post a clickable link next.

In the video, anyone can clearly see the missile streaking into the sky, with the heavy high-volume exhaust smoke plume billowing from the rear in a typical corkscrew pattern ...

Mr. Ellsworth goes on to say:

"It could be a test firing of an underwater ICBM missile from a submarine... not the Taliban (too big)"

By the way, the several reporters in the video matter of factly state over and over:

"Missile launch."

Fire coming out the back of the missile lights up the sky.

Is this an American mistaken launch???

or Chinese warning to stop trying to ruin their economy?

Or crazy NORKs ?

Robert Ellsworth says "Not the Taliban (too big). Could be underwater ICBM test firing".

HIs opinion identical to that mine, and that of:

Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt.

"It’s a solid propellant missile," he told the Times. "You can tell from the efflux [smoke]."

Richardson said it could have been a ballistic missile launched from a submarine or an interceptor, the defensive anti-missile weapon used by Navy surface ships.

I'm going with the two experts on this one, since it agrees with what can so easily be seen with my own lyin' eyes ...

Meanwhile, naval analyst Raymond Pritchett makes a smart point: that the mystery itself is becoming a security problem.

“When someone makes an unannounced launch what looks to be a ballistic missile 35 miles from the nation's second largest city (at sea in international waters), and 18 hours later NORAD still doesn’t have any answers at all –-- that complete lack of information represents a credible threat to national security,” he writes.

“If NORAD can’t answer the first and last question, then I believe it is time to question every single penny of ballistic missile defense funding in the defense budget. NORTHCOM needs to start talking about what they do know, rather than leaving the focus on what they don’t know.”

Direct link to the video is here, many more extended comments on the blog;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2qKMchcgzk

1 posted on 11/12/2010 3:52:48 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2qKMchcgzk


2 posted on 11/12/2010 3:53:16 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Oh, for crying out loud...


3 posted on 11/12/2010 3:54:21 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
>>In the video, anyone can clearly see the missile <<

Every time I see the word "clearly" in that context in this story it reminds me of this guy:

:)

4 posted on 11/12/2010 3:57:28 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

Every day this guy... new thread, old discredited news. It’s forum abuse.


5 posted on 11/12/2010 3:57:56 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I’m curious, where did it go? I suppose what goes up must come down...


6 posted on 11/12/2010 3:58:10 PM PST by marron
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I DON’T know why this is still news. The Navy released a PDF file last sunday with an out line of possible launches until 23:59 zulu for the test range STARTING monday...


7 posted on 11/12/2010 4:00:49 PM PST by omega4179 (Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius)
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To: RobRoy

Hey Rob, I was right about silver, no.

And I am right about this. It was a missle launch, tell your masters we are not buying the propaganda.


8 posted on 11/12/2010 4:02:00 PM PST by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: The KG9 Kid

It’s clear a lot of people really have a hard time backing down, no matter what.

Glenn Beck calls it “Arguing With Idiots”.

I was an idiot regarding Nixon. I was fully in support of him during watergate, until one day I had a moment of clarity and completely reversed my position.

Same thing happened with this issue, but I am much quicker now to slay my own misconceptions - yes, it’s true that I thought this was absolutely a missile at first. “Clearly” many people have yet to have that “moment of clarity” on this issue. I suspect many never will. Their spiritual brethren regarding 9/11 are called “truthers”.


9 posted on 11/12/2010 4:02:39 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: marron

...that’s EXACTLY what I was thinking...somewhere, there’s a really confused, speared whale.


10 posted on 11/12/2010 4:03:11 PM PST by NordP (COMMON SENSE CONSERVATIVES - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: stockpirate
Hey, I was right about silver! And I'm right that this is a contrail.

Nya, nya, nya. ;)

11 posted on 11/12/2010 4:04:00 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: The KG9 Kid

The video shows a payload rising on a solid-fuel booster rocket. Distance to rocket, maybe 30 to 40 miles seen from a chase angle. You can even see a flame (not on this video, but on the full clip of which this is an extract)

Its very obviously a rocket.


12 posted on 11/12/2010 4:04:39 PM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

My first post with still photos was here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2625609/posts

Many, many people who have seen many many missile launches, agreed with what is so obviously seen in the stills and videos that are there.

However, a number of bloggers have angrily, even screachingly, announced taht lighting up the sky means nothing, that this is a contrail from an airliner approaching LA.

I don’t see it.

I live in north LA, and I see missile launches all the time, and condensation trails too.

This is a missile launch.

For fun, read the 330 posts on the previous thread “Take a look a this photo of the “Mystery Missile” as it rises straight up and then disappears ...”

Link is: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2625609/posts


An angry fellow FReeper who thinks I should go back to high school, previously said to me:

“Go to the local high school and get a GED is need be.”


My reply:

Huh? Your post is so poorly written it is hard to answer.

Perhaps when you calm down and become coherent again you will be able to type better ...


I rest my case with the Jane’s expert who said: Undoubtedly a missile, you can tell from the smoke exhaust (not a contrail in the sky, not even similar if you look)

I quote him here:

Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt.
“It’s a solid propellant missile,” he told the Times. “You can tell from the efflux [smoke].”

Richardson said it could have been a ballistic missile launched from a submarine or an interceptor, the defensive anti-missile weapon used by Navy surface ships.


Maybe he too forgot to get his high school diploma?


and from another FReeper, who no doubt forgot to go to high school (the dog):

“That is a missile launched from a submerged submarine. I have seen several launches and this photo is exactly like the launches I saw.”


and the former Deputy Sec of Defense: “Spectacular! Takes you breath away! Sub launched ICBM !”

I paraphrase him here from the video mentioned earlier, or, if you had a brain, and could write, you could listen and quote him yourself:

Listen to Robert Ellsworth, the former Deputy Secretary of Defense, and former US Ambassador to NATO, and the laughing amazement in his voice as he tells the reporters:

“It is a big missile !!! Spectacular! Breath taking !!! It is a missile! That is not the Taliban. It could be a test firing of an ICBM from a submarine”


BTW: the missile rose from the ground, lit up the whole sky over LA, for 2 minutes (not 10),

and the smoke lingered for 8 more minutes after the missile disappeared to the North.

Not “the missile lingered in the sky for 10 minutes”

No one has said that.


So two experts have called it an ICBM missile, and one ranter who can’t even make a coherent sentence has screamed “contrail”.

Think I will go with the unrefuted experts.

I think, as an intelligent person, I will go with Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, and my own eyes.

It is incredibly obvious.

BTW

Perhaps it is you and not the Former Deputy Secretary of Defense and US Ambassador to NATO or myself who should go back to school and get his diploma.


For everyone else, a bit politer, who wishes to judge for themselves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2qKMchcgzk

Note that each of the several News 8 reporters matter-of-factly says “That amazing missile launch up in Los Angeles ...” and “trying to get more information on the missile launch” ... and “the Navy doesn’t have a clue”.

In the background you can see some video on the wide screen with the exhaust plume spewing out of the back of the missile as it heads northwards ...

My first post is http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2625609/posts


13 posted on 11/12/2010 4:04:57 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: RobRoy

Well Nya, nya, nta back :-)


14 posted on 11/12/2010 4:05:24 PM PST by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: marron

>>I’m curious, where did it go? I suppose what goes up must come down...<<

Actually, it DID come down, right on time, here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=phoenix+airport&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=en&hq=&hnear=Phoenix+Sky+Harbor+International+Airport+(PHX),+3400+E+Sky+Harbor+Blvd,+Phoenix,+Maricopa,+Arizona+85034&ll=33.434306,-112.008533&spn=0.022204,0.045447&t=h&z=15


15 posted on 11/12/2010 4:06:18 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: marron

“I shot an arrow into the air.;
It fell to earth, I knew not where...”


16 posted on 11/12/2010 4:06:34 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
News helicopter photographer Gil Leyvas's raw video
17 posted on 11/12/2010 4:09:56 PM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: RobRoy

Seems to me that if there was something to hide, the military would have hid it a lot better by simply saying “yeah we launched it”.


18 posted on 11/12/2010 4:10:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: agere_contra

I saw that Russian sources say that it was the Chi-Coms. IT was related to the Cruise Ship that the Chi-Coms knocked out with a new EMP weapon. A shot across Obambis bow.


19 posted on 11/12/2010 4:12:54 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Well donchaknow Comrade Obama says we can absorb another attack.


20 posted on 11/12/2010 4:14:52 PM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
H/t to Reeses for this fascinating information
"Advanced solid-fuel rockets control their speed by making a corkscrew maneuver, clearly evident (at the base of the rockets flight). This is done during tests to keep the rocket from overshooting the test area. "

21 posted on 11/12/2010 4:18:25 PM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Who cares? Nobody got hurt, and it wasn’t launched by the mus, er, the Amish. Whatever it was, NORAD knew it was there.

Besides, even if you know what it was, what are you going to do, shoot it down with your AR 15?


22 posted on 11/12/2010 4:18:38 PM PST by lurk
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To: screaminsunshine
I saw that Russian sources say that it was the Chi-Coms. IT was related to the Cruise Ship that the Chi-Coms knocked out with a new EMP weapon. A shot across Obambis bow.

Of course the Russians are going to say that. They're just trying to get people looking in the wrong direction. They know it was a joint effort by Castro, the CIA, and LBJ.

23 posted on 11/12/2010 4:22:35 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: RobRoy

Sometime next month, I expect, some pop culture question will arise asking Americans what annoying and played out words or catch phrases should be made extinct at the start of the new year.

I submit the word ‘Clearly’ for this list. There’s very few times that this criminally overused adverb can honestly be used anymore, and the opportunities seem to keep diminishing daily.

The word ‘Clearly’ has become truly nothing more than a wildly swung bludgeoning tool in a fallacious argument, hoping desperately to hit the piñata.


24 posted on 11/12/2010 4:25:01 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: screaminsunshine

I think it was US Navy, launched from some place near NAS Point Mugu.

I’m not excited by the payload - its probably something normal; a blank shot, something like that. It just frosts me when people deny the evidence of their own eyes: it’s a rocket!


25 posted on 11/12/2010 4:25:03 PM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: agere_contra

The video shows a payload rising on a solid-fuel booster rocket. Distance to rocket, maybe 30 to 40 miles seen from a chase angle. You can even see a flame (not on this video, but on the full clip of which this is an extract)

It’s very obviously a rocket.


I agree.

Thanks.


Sorry if letting a former Under Secretary of Defense speak his mind outrages you;

As if bloggers should shout someone down who brings in an informed outside expert’s opinion.

Don’t you think this man’s interview should be seen by Free Republic members? Why not?

He is laughing as he gives the opinion that many others here on FR have also said is so obvious: ICBM launch, lights up the sky over LA for 2 minutes, missile smoke plume, corkscrew pattern, disappears heading for North Pacific or points beyond.

I have yet to see a single post (out of 330, popular topic) refute the expert Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets,

given to the Times of London

because they can’t.


You can insult me and try to shout me down but two experts have said what I have said:

“ICBM missile launch from a submarine.” Clearly.

I’m going with the two experts in this case rather than the hysterical and rude bloggers.


Try reading the comments from your fellow FReepers, many of whom bring experience and expertise to the discussion instead of insults.

I will quote two from military men:

“I have seen many missile launches and that video sure looked exactly like some SLBM launches.”

and another:

“That is a missile launched from a submerged submarine. I have seen several launches and this photo is exactly like the launches I saw.”

Hmmmm .... ICBM launch off our coast and two polite posts are “forum abuse”.

I don’t agree.

I think the US government did not expect this, is shocked and stunned, doesn’t know what to say and doesn’t know what to do;

and is very ineptly “covering it up” although they were caught so flat footed that they haven’t really done even much of a job of that !


26 posted on 11/12/2010 4:25:12 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: RobRoy

So, do you believe TWA 800 was destroyed by a center fuel tank explosion?


27 posted on 11/12/2010 4:27:23 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

You mean it wasn’t swamp gas and weather balloons?


28 posted on 11/12/2010 4:30:44 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: RobRoy
Every time I see the word "clearly" in that context in this story it reminds me of this guy:

A guy walks into a psychiatrist's office, completely naked except for the fact that he is wrapped from head to toe in plastic wrap. The psychiatrist takes one look at him and says, "I can clearly see youre nuts!"
29 posted on 11/12/2010 4:34:04 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: marron

That’s part of what the “missle people” miss. The guy doing the video filmed for a while, until he realised it wasn’t moving or coming back down or anything, and he gave up.

Nobody has any pictures of the rocket coming down. Of course, nobody has any reportings of the sound of a rocket going up either, and there’s no radar or satellite indications, no pilots reported it, no countries reacted to it by changing their defensive posture.

But we know it’s a missle, because some people watching 5 seconds of video are absolutely sure it has to be a rocket, and the government refuses to acknowledge it, so it must be true.


30 posted on 11/12/2010 4:37:05 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

It’s not a missle.

But I bet if you keep posting this again and again, and keep repeating it long enough, your wishes will turn it into a missle.

So don’t back down now.


31 posted on 11/12/2010 4:39:41 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

http://www.cargolaw.com/2000nightmare_singles.only.html#LAX-Mystery-Missle

Countryman & McDaniel - The Logistics - Customs Broker & Hull Attorneys

International Trade & Safety Consultants

“Overlooking Runway 25 - Right, at Los Angeles International Airport”

At 5:15 PM The LAX Webcam #2 - “Over The Pacific” Captures This Amazing Photo of What Appears To Be A Missle Streaking Generally South — Off LAX

The Staff of Countryman & McDaniel Witnessed The Amazing Sight Overlooking Runway 25-Right.

Moving At High Speed, We Did Not Take This To Be An Airplane


32 posted on 11/12/2010 4:40:03 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I think the missile truthers are confusing the camera zooming in with it showing actual motion.


33 posted on 11/12/2010 4:43:01 PM PST by MrShoop
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Nobody has any pictures of the rocket coming down.

I've seen missile launches from Vandenburg, a couple from close up and one from really long distance.

A couple were headed for the south pacific back when they were testing the "shoot a bullet with a bullet" anti-missile plan. The one I saw from long distance looked like it was headed into orbit.

I was just curious about this one. The ones I saw, I'm not aware that they were publicized, but everyone knew what they were doing at least in general terms.

34 posted on 11/12/2010 4:45:15 PM PST by marron
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To: BykrBayb

Nor the planet Venus.


35 posted on 11/12/2010 4:45:25 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
"... Try reading the comments from your fellow FReepers, many of whom bring experience and expertise to the discussion instead of insults. I will quote two from military men:"

Take it from me, a very long time registered forum participant on FR: Many opinions here from self-proclaimed 'military men' don't amount to jack squat.

They don't hold any more weight than any other Freeper who just stumbled through the door and started posting their opinions.

Honestly, using some other FReeper's opinion as evidence of something really isn't evidence at all. In fact, it probably works against you.

36 posted on 11/12/2010 4:46:45 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Somewhere a steely-eyed missile man has one less missile. Would very much like to hear the deliberations going on over this in the government.


37 posted on 11/12/2010 4:47:20 PM PST by dogcaller
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To: agere_contra

Have you found a video that shows the whole 10 minutes? The guy said he kept on the object for around 10 minutes, all the footage that I have seen has been much, much shorter.

Can you film a missile for ten minutes? I’m no expert, just wondering. A quik wiki search says that a trident missile is going 13,600 mph within 2 minutes of launch. But who knows. He was in a helicopter and had a zoom lens. How long can you film a missile in a situation like that? Is it possible to do so for ten minutes, assuming it was launched fairly near? Does the smoke trail look like what was filmed? I have no clue.

Freegards


38 posted on 11/12/2010 4:49:32 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: roses of sharon

From the excellent link provided:

“Within seconds the object had zoomed out of view.”

“We have never seen anything like this before (after 20 years at LAX)”

Get it folks.

“20 seconds.

Zoomed out of view (of the LAX webcam)

Never seen anything like it before.”


39 posted on 11/12/2010 4:49:35 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: roses of sharon

From the LAX Webcam link:

Within Seconds The Object Had Zoomed Out of Our View. We Had Never Seen Anything Like This Before

Mystery Solved? - the video which explains this was an “optical illusion”

***You be the judge, but the speed of this is unlike any other so-called “optical illusion” of an aircraft approaching LAX we have ever seen in 20 years at LAX.

More, none of these new explanations have offered up the radar track of the aircraft they contend was the object we observed.

To properly judge for yourself, please click some of the video links we have displayed above — then note the object speed.

The Cargo Letter has no idea what thiis event represents, only that we don;t like the current explanations.

McD
Make Your Own New Discoveries — Visit The LAX Webcams!


40 posted on 11/12/2010 4:51:23 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: roses of sharon

You be the judge, but the speed of this is unlike any other so-called “optical illusion” of an aircraft approaching LAX we have ever seen in 20 years at LAX.


41 posted on 11/12/2010 4:55:11 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It's either a missile, a lone booster or a boosted payload, launched from the middle of a truly venerable ordnance testing range: NAS Point Mugu.

San Nicolas island (part of NAS Mugu) is right under the putative launch point.

The raw video shows clear plume movement and a 'flame'. It's not a plane: this was a rocket.

42 posted on 11/12/2010 4:58:48 PM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: agere_contra
Here you can see the typical corkscrew pattern of a missile exhaust plume



43 posted on 11/12/2010 5:00:00 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Ransomed

I don’t think there’s ten minutes of interesting film - IIRC the camera man said the actual launch or event took only about two minutes.


44 posted on 11/12/2010 5:02:07 PM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: MrShoop

Definitely. The zoom makes it look like it’s moving, as does the shaky camera. You can tell by looking at the features in the contrail, which don’t move relative to the object.


45 posted on 11/12/2010 5:07:06 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

“but the speed of this is unlike any other”

How fast is it going?


46 posted on 11/12/2010 5:08:43 PM PST by james500
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To: Ransomed

It seems that the cameraman was struggling in his brief interview and said that he shot 10 minutes of film but showing two minutes of ICBM missile gong up into the sky...

and 8 minutes of lingering smoke, as he was so amazed at what he had seen and was waiting to see what happened next but the object had disappeared as it got smaller and smaller, and only the smoke plume remained.

The total raw footage from beginning to end seems not to be found anywhere - only chopped up bits and parts.

So, people repeating the story over and over (bloggers) have got it messed up.


Did you see the LAX webcam owners comments?

I quote from their website:

Speed was UNLIKE anything we have seen before in 20 years at LAX.

They were there.

They should know.

They have 20 years experience, unlike the many (all) blogosphere experts who have “solved” the mystery.

Link was posted above, by someone else but I will now find it again and repost.

Anyway, 60 to 90 seconds of missile + the remaining smoke plume floating in the sky is what seems to have been recorded.


47 posted on 11/12/2010 5:09:21 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I agree, but only because I’ve seen the video. Stills of missile plumes/contrails can look very like each other - they’re simply not conclusive.

The video shows a rocket. Given that the firing position is right in the middle of a naval missile testing base, we can hazard a guess as to the nature of the rocket: it was Navy.

Maybe an unscheduled launch, maybe a complete accident - for all we know this was a cook-off of a solid fuel booster.


48 posted on 11/12/2010 5:11:47 PM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: agere_contra

Is there some “raw video” that different from all the video that keeps getting posted? Because the video that has been shown does not show this.

Plus, there’s no way they launched a missile from the ordnance range without filing to keep planes out of the area. Or without anybody hearing it.


49 posted on 11/12/2010 5:12:42 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ransomed

Here is the site of the owners of the LAX web cam

http://www.cargolaw.com/2000nightmare_singles.only.html#LAX-Mystery-Missle

“Never seen anything like it before after 20 years at LAX”

but what would they know ...


50 posted on 11/12/2010 5:13:25 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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