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VANITY--2004 F-150 4x4 Problem--VANITY
Me ^ | 11/13/2010 | Me

Posted on 11/13/2010 7:44:41 AM PST by rabidralph

FReeper Family, I have a few questions about my F-150, which just got carted off to the repair shop. It won't go in reverse. It locks up after going a couple inches and all I can do is rev the engine after that. The truck goes forward all right.

While the tow operator was checking out the problem, I saw that the drive shaft turned properly when going forward but when he put it in reverse, the small lug nuts that connect the shaft to the transfer case struggled to turn the way they should and the whole assembly just locked up. The repair shop will open the transfer case and let me know what they find out.

My first question is any guesses as to what the problem is? How much do you think it will cost--best and worst case scenarios. Thanks for any suggestions you all might have. BTW, ditching the Ford and buying a Chevy is not a valid suggestion :-)


TOPICS: Hobbies; Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 4x4; f150; trucks
Please ignore the source URL, it just points to an F-150 forum. But I don't have an account so my problem is not posted there.
1 posted on 11/13/2010 7:44:46 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph
The problem is too much electronic k|~ @ |).

But a truck with a manual transmission, manual front locking hubs and a manual shifting transfer case.

2 posted on 11/13/2010 7:49:14 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

but —> buy


3 posted on 11/13/2010 7:49:49 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: rabidralph
Dude, register at the forum. Some of those guys are former factory engineers. I was amazed at how quickly they were able to answer really obscure questions on my F250. This one is good: http://www.ford-trucks.com
4 posted on 11/13/2010 7:51:48 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!)
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To: rabidralph

Have you checked the Turbo-Encapulator?


5 posted on 11/13/2010 7:52:04 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: rabidralph

Reverse pinion is gimped.
Or electronic stuff is sporked.


6 posted on 11/13/2010 7:52:32 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Paladin2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDgQg6bq7o


7 posted on 11/13/2010 7:52:34 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: rabidralph

I’ll go ahead and post it for you, and give you the link. What year is it? Other specs?


8 posted on 11/13/2010 7:56:34 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!)
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To: ElkGroveDan
You're very kind. It's a 2004 F-150 4x4, 5.4L V8 Automatic.

And then all the stuff I mentioned in the beginning of the thread.

What else do you need to know?

9 posted on 11/13/2010 8:00:03 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: Paladin2

I do not do well with driving manual transmissions. I’m always afraid of rolling back in traffic and hitting someone. I haven’t driven a manual since driver’s ed in HS. BTW, I am a woman and not some pansy-man, afraid of stick-shift vehicles. I’m a pansy-woman, afraid of stick-shift vehicles, but I love my truck.


10 posted on 11/13/2010 8:03:47 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: Paladin2

LOL! Thanks!


11 posted on 11/13/2010 8:06:20 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: Darksheare

Thanks for the theories.


12 posted on 11/13/2010 8:07:20 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

Its the Disgronificator. It will cost about $800 to repair.


13 posted on 11/13/2010 8:08:43 AM PST by bt579 ("I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ~Barack 0bama)
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To: rabidralph
It'd be cheaper to pull the front driveshaft and see what happens to reverse function.

I've driven a #$??!!! Ford auto trans vehicle that wouldn't go into reverse (or first) unless it was hot. I just parked so all I had to do was go forward upon restarting the vehicle. (using second to get the thing off the line.)

14 posted on 11/13/2010 8:09:42 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Unfortunately, there’s only one way in and out of the garage and there are too many drunk drivers in Wisconsin for me to consider parking on the street.


15 posted on 11/13/2010 8:16:18 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph
Here's the link Ralph.

Freepmail me with the answer if anyone has any follow up questions there and I'll post it.

16 posted on 11/13/2010 8:20:44 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Thanks a lot Dan! Thank you, FReeper Family! Y’all are the best! I’ll let you know what the shop says when they call so you all can dispute their findings in true FReeper fashion :-)


17 posted on 11/13/2010 8:28:24 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

Welcome.
Since they started with electronic stuff on transmissions, it is always a good bet to have the electronics checked.
But the reverse gear sounds like it may be gimped.
No biggy, but somewhat expensive.
Especially if it is doing something bizarre like not locking into gear fully.


18 posted on 11/13/2010 8:30:18 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Pontiac

Bump for later


19 posted on 11/13/2010 8:38:21 AM PST by Pontiac
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To: rabidralph

“ditching the Ford and buying a Chevy is not a valid suggestion” Why buy the third best? Dodge Ram 2500 would be my selection. If I could make the “best of the best” selection, it would be a Ford 250 Body, a Cummins turbo Diesel; and 6 speed Allison Transmission.


20 posted on 11/13/2010 8:56:39 AM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: rabidralph

About 3 weeks ago my husbands ‘09 Ford F150 p/u ran away with us on a busy city street. It accelerated by its self while he had the brake all the way down. This was not the case of floor mats causing the problem. We ran into the back of a car before he could get it stopped, even with it in neutral it continued to lunge ahead. It happen again the same day and after that we called a wrecker and had it towed, no damage the second time. Bye bye Ford hello Cheve.


21 posted on 11/13/2010 9:05:12 AM PST by Ditter
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To: ElkGroveDan

OUTSTANDING!!


22 posted on 11/13/2010 9:06:12 AM PST by Roccus (Quondo Omni Flunkus Mortati)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Anybody who has you for a friend is a very lucky person!


23 posted on 11/13/2010 9:09:56 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: Colorado Cowgirl

LOL! Thanks, Girl. I just don’t need that big of a truck, not to mention the state charges you more for registering a larger truck.


24 posted on 11/13/2010 9:10:30 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: Ditter

How frightening! I’m glad you all and no one else was hurt. I’ve never heard of that happening in a Ford before. However, when I was about 11, my mom mistook the gas for the brake and hit a fire hydrant. She was driving the Maverick back then.


25 posted on 11/13/2010 9:12:36 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: Darksheare

I appreciate the insight. The shift column goes into all gears successfully, it just doesn’t want to move much after hitting reverse. Thanks again!


26 posted on 11/13/2010 9:15:02 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

Welcome.
My car is electronically shifted.
The shift column isn’t truly hooked to anything except a bunch of electronic stuff.


27 posted on 11/13/2010 9:18:08 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: rabidralph

Yes, it is a little big. Here in CO. trucks can get recreational plates, not for commercial use; and they are much cheaper.


28 posted on 11/13/2010 9:19:48 AM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: rabidralph
No one was hurt thankfully. My husband admitted that it had happened a month before on the highway. He passed a car and then he realized he was going 90 and it was continuing to go faster. He had trouble stopping it but thought it was just a weird one time thing. He should have gotten rid of the truck then. After we hit the car ahead of us we went to the car wash in preparation for getting rid of it and it happened again going into the car wash. That could have been a real tragedy, cars, people and gas pumps, what do you try to miss? he managed to stop it then with out a tragedy. That is when we called a wrecker, 3 times, it should have been dumped after the first time.
29 posted on 11/13/2010 9:25:02 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Good golly! What an awful story. I’m glad you were able to get rid of it. Makes me wonder about all this new technology of cars making “corrections” for inattentive drivers. Pretty soon, we’ll just be riding along on Disney rides while the car does all the steering, braking and turning for us. Scary and un-American.


30 posted on 11/13/2010 9:30:34 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: Paladin2
I just got a call from the shop. Two things--the reverse issue was because the emergency brake cable had rusted to whatever it connects to, to do its job. They will order a new cable. However, after the cable was disconnected, they took the truck for a drive to check it out and it had very little power and the check engine light was flashing. They think it could be the coil or something is shorting out because we've had constant rain since yesterday. Anyway, they'll run diagnostics on it on Monday and call Ford to talk to them about it.

So, that's it. Rusted emergency brake cable. And a totally new problem to figure out. Thanks again for the theories and the company on a rainy Saturday. God bless you all!

31 posted on 11/13/2010 10:03:00 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

All you need is practice. I have been driving a stick since I was 18 and rolling back is not a problem. If someone gets too close behind me when I am on a hill, I rev the engine a bit and pop the clutch and get a faster than normal take off.


32 posted on 11/13/2010 10:18:05 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well, I always popped the clutch and I hated that I never seemed to get a smooth getaway. I do better with motorcycles than with cars when it comes to shifting. And, in fact, shifting would be a lot more fun, now that I’ve moved to a rural part of the state. The town I work in just got its first traffic light :-)


33 posted on 11/13/2010 10:28:37 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph
That is so awesome. What a rare story. Usually it's worth than you imagined, and I was imagining issues with the rear end which can be as costly as transmission work. If they have also were able to identify an ignition problem then that's going to save you a lot of money in the long run.

FWIW I love my Ford truck, an '07 F250 which just rolled over 100,000 this week and I plan on buying another one before too long.


34 posted on 11/13/2010 11:24:47 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Praise God that things aren't as bad as imagined. You're right, I did imagine the worst.

That's a beautiful truck. Mine is burgundy and I love it. Mine is at 100,600+.

35 posted on 11/13/2010 11:32:16 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: ElkGroveDan

My 2000 Chev Silverado is 3K over 200K and going fine It’s had some work but they all require that. Previous truck was a ‘90 Silverado - 6 w/ 5 spd tran and a high speed rear end - best truck I ever had and lost it to a deer. 245K and still running smooth but the ins company got impatient - I couldn’t find a 2 wheel drive pu (new was not an option).


36 posted on 11/13/2010 12:58:16 PM PST by Archer24
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To: Ditter
About 3 weeks ago my husbands ‘09 Ford F150 p/u ran away with us on a busy city street. It accelerated by its self while he had the brake all the way down.

Interesting, I have a 09 Ford F150 p/u 4x4. It is just over a year old now with 15K miles.

Did you return the truck to the dealer and if so did they offer any explanation?

I have had no similar problems thankfully. Although the SINC system did stop working about a week ago.

37 posted on 11/14/2010 9:27:06 AM PST by Pontiac
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To: Pontiac
We have not heard yet what they have discovered about the truck. He dumped it for a Cheve, we may never hear. We have generally been GM people our entire lives having only bought a couple of Fords over our 50 years of buying vehicles. We have not liked the couple of Fords that we have bought, he a p/u years ago and me an Explorer.

We were turned off by the take over of GM by the gov. but have gone back there in spite of that.

38 posted on 11/14/2010 9:37:06 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Pontiac
I forgot to mention my husbands Ford F150 was a 4x4 as well. Watch out if your engine starts roaring when you are not accelerating.
39 posted on 11/14/2010 9:40:45 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Well I will certainly take it in the first time that happens.


40 posted on 11/14/2010 10:17:13 AM PST by Pontiac
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To: rabidralph
Unfortunately, there’s only one way in and out of the garage and there are too many drunk drivers in Wisconsin for me to consider parking on the street.

There's only one way in and out of the garage NOW. Have some vision.

41 posted on 05/09/2011 4:18:01 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking
LOL! Thanks for opening my eyes to the possibilities.

BTW, the emergency brake cable rusted to the whatever and that's why the truck couldn't back up. After they replaced the cable, the truck had very low power while driving. $3400 later, I had the spark plugs replaced and got a new catalytic converter--an off-brand--not OEM. The truck runs great but is a little bit noisier than before because of the off-brand catalytic.

42 posted on 05/09/2011 4:59:58 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.conservativedna.com/)
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