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Migrants from the Near East 'brought farming to Europe'
BBC ^ | November 10, 2010 | Katia Moskvitch

Posted on 11/14/2010 1:55:35 PM PST by decimon

Farming in Europe did not just spread by word-of-mouth, but was introduced by migrants from the ancient Near East, a study suggests.

Scientists analysed DNA from the 8,000 year-old remains of early farmers found at an ancient graveyard in Germany.

They compared the genetic signatures to those of modern populations and found similarities with the DNA of people living in today's Turkey and Iraq.

The study appears in the journal PLoS Biology.

Wolfgang Haak of the University of Adelaide in Australia led the team of international researchers from Germany, Russia and Australia.

Up until now, many scientists believed that the concept of farming was brought to Europe merely by the transfer of ideas. They thought that European hunter-gatherers living in close proximity to ancient farmers in the Near East were spreading the information about more settled ways and agriculture further north.

But the recent study challenges that hypothesis.

"We have shown that the first farmers in Europe had a much greater genetic input from the Near East and Anatolia, than from populations of Stone Age hunter-gatherers who already existed in the area," said Dr Haak.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble
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To: bunkerhill7
Oh, my goodness, you've been into "Faux St0rmwhat'sit" haven't you.

They're still arguing that the Ainu are not East Asians ~

21 posted on 11/14/2010 3:24:14 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Sherman Logan
Oh, forgot amaranth ~ and a wide variety of squash and beans ~ you didn't need livestock if you could grow beans.

The THREE SISTERS of the American Indians (and this is North, South and Central American indians) are Corn, Beans and Squash. Grown together this was an incredibly productive food source.

They did this without ploughs ~

22 posted on 11/14/2010 3:26:57 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: bunkerhill7
That`s why Teutonic legend calls them “Thor Losers”

Yes, a people renowned for their sense of humor. Nothing like a week in the "Bavarian Catskills" to loosen up.

23 posted on 11/14/2010 3:36:37 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon
The new book by Bill Bryson, At Home, has an interesting discussion of Skara Brae.
24 posted on 11/14/2010 3:41:46 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
The new book by Bill Bryson, At Home, has an interesting discussion of Skara Brae.

I don't know why that picture is in that article but it's a neat picture.

25 posted on 11/14/2010 3:45:59 PM PST by decimon
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To: ClearCase_guy
"The Lap people in Finland are basically Asians."

The Sa'ami consider Lap or Laplander a derogatory term these days. I have some Sa'ami DNA but it doesn't bother me. I do dislike 'Redneck' somewhat though. (ahem)

Where Do The Finns Come From?

"It seems far more likely like people just walked on over and said "We could plant seeds here. Let's stop and stay a while."

Stephan Oppenheimer says in his book, The Origins Of The British, that his studies does not support a physical migration of people from the Middle East and that farming was just adopted from village to village by the people who were already at any location. In fact, he said that once a DNA haplogroup settled in an area, it was never replaced by another.

For example, the (majority) DNA of the Brits today is the same DNA that arrived there at the end of the Ice Age. It was wave after wave of essentially the same people migrating north and west out of the Iberian Ice Age refuge. Mostly halpogroups (yDNA)R1b and (mtDMA) 'H' of which are 65%+ of Western Europeans.

Renee Zellweger is Sa'ami.


26 posted on 11/14/2010 3:51:02 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Why do you drop the ‘L’?


27 posted on 11/14/2010 3:57:38 PM PST by bvw
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To: decimon

Billy Ray Cyrus and his cows.


28 posted on 11/14/2010 4:10:45 PM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: bvw
"Why do you drop the ‘L’?"

What 'L'? (I don't know what you're talking about)

29 posted on 11/14/2010 4:12:20 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

“sa’ami”?


30 posted on 11/14/2010 4:18:33 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
“sa’ami”?

That's ba'oney.

31 posted on 11/14/2010 4:20:17 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

The Ba’oney settled the Orkneys.


32 posted on 11/14/2010 4:28:35 PM PST by bvw
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To: blam

I thought she was Norweigian? You might be right because of the eyes. Nice picture of her there. When you see her in movies and interview - her eyes. She looks like she is squinting all the time. You are right.

I wonder why? I think it is probably adapting to the constant white snow to avoid snow blindness.

I think Pam Anderson is. She is supposedly Swedish. It is the eyes.

She looks like Finnish fiddle player Linda Brava aka
http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/linda-brava-2-site.jpg

http://www.topnews.in/files/Pamela-Anderson-1.jpg

Finnish Formula 1 drivers and world champions. Raikkonen looks more European while Hakkinen looks more Sa’ami.

http://www.scottasia.net/2008/serenity/press/images/Kimi_Raikkonen_1.jpg

http://www.formula1.com/photos/teams_and_drivers/hall_of_fame_profile/top_right/hof_profile_right_40.jpg


33 posted on 11/14/2010 4:35:54 PM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: muawiyah

Have you checked out Dienekes blog? He blogs on genetic research. It can get very recondite and technical but it is of interest.


34 posted on 11/14/2010 4:37:57 PM PST by squarebarb
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To: bvw
The Ba’oney settled the Orkneys.

I thought that was the Ma'arkey.

35 posted on 11/14/2010 4:38:43 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon
I thought that was the Ma'arkey.

I think it was Ma'larkey.

36 posted on 11/14/2010 4:40:14 PM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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To: Frantzie

37 posted on 11/14/2010 4:44:52 PM PST by decimon
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To: squarebarb
I follow up on this stuff by reading the papers once they've been mentioned by someone else on FR.

Keeping a focus on the Sa'ami stuff since there are 500 of them used by the Swedes and Finns as a medical testing ground.

They seem to be my tribe too! Keeps me ahead of the medical community by decades.

38 posted on 11/14/2010 4:50:46 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: blam
So is the gal who played Spiderman's girlfriend, and she's a friend of Pamela Anderson (who's also Sa'ami), and they have a couple of other friends they get together with to party and they are also Sa'ami ~ and it runs down hill from there.

This is the Swedish crowd so they're probably all Tiger Woods' ex-wife's cousins and friends as well.

39 posted on 11/14/2010 4:55:52 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: decimon

Right, it was two peoples, like the Angles and Saxons. The Angles invented triangles and rectangles, before that there were just squares. And the Saxons invented the saxophone. Very jazzy combination. No squares, just hot sax.


40 posted on 11/14/2010 4:56:58 PM PST by bvw
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