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Helen Mirren: British humour is cruel ('too Americanized via savage assimilation'; luvs France)
The Telegraph (U,K,) ^ | November 14, 2010

Posted on 11/14/2010 2:52:22 PM PST by Stoat

 

The actress told a French magazine that the tradition of British decency is in decline.

"I'm under the impression that this notion is disappearing from our society, where conflicts are made worse on cinema and on television, where people are nasty and cruel on the internet and where, in general terms, everybody seems to me to be very angry.

"This causes me a lot of pain," she said.

She singled out British comedy as an example. "I prefer the finesse of French humour. English humour is harsher, more scathing, more cruel and more surreal too, as illustrated by Monty Python and the TV series Little Britain, where situations are far-fetched and over-the-top."

The 65-year-old actress, who won an Oscar for her role in The Queen, said her home country had become too Americanised. "England is constantly threatened by a savage assimilation. This isn't the case with France which remains furiously protective of its culture."

Dame Helen lives in Los Angeles with her American husband, Taylor Hackford.

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: helenmirren; hollywood; libtards; movies
"From the age of 15, I desperately wanted to be Brigitte Bardot and to go and live in St Tropez. But I was just a small and plump English girl with spots

 


1 posted on 11/14/2010 2:52:25 PM PST by Stoat
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To: Stoat

It’s a sad day when the French are considered more genteel than the British.

But the French need to get rid of the Muslim’s if they really want to protect their culture.


2 posted on 11/14/2010 2:55:07 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Slings and Arrows

Spectacularly successful British actress living in USA but railing against Britain’s ‘savage assimilation’ of American culture while gushing over the glories of France ping.


3 posted on 11/14/2010 2:55:54 PM PST by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

True, but she’s cute at 65. Cut her some slack. :)


4 posted on 11/14/2010 2:59:22 PM PST by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: Stoat

I don’t trust anyone who can’t appreciate a little Monty Python — at least on occasion. ;)

Love the puppy though. :) ROFL


5 posted on 11/14/2010 3:02:46 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: Stoat

She’s worrying about the wrong culprit when it comes to England’s future assimilation.


6 posted on 11/14/2010 3:03:20 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Stoat
I prefer the finesse of French humour

LOL! Jerry Lewis got a medal from the French for his comedy.

7 posted on 11/14/2010 3:04:34 PM PST by AU72
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To: OKSooner

If the chicks are that hot when I get to 65 they can spout off about whatever they wish! Hearing aids have volume control. :)


8 posted on 11/14/2010 3:05:11 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: Stoat

She should have ended up by deploring how young women dress and behave today. “Why, in the 1960s, we were all young *ladies*, dressing demurely in floor length dresses, never using bad language, and having formal teas with cucumber sandwiches. At least that’s what I remember after having taken all that LSD.”


9 posted on 11/14/2010 3:08:06 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Stoat
Not bad for an old lady.


10 posted on 11/14/2010 3:08:15 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: LibertyRocks

“...British decency is in decline.” And then she cites Monty Python. Someone break the news to her that Monty Python was almost 40 years ago.


11 posted on 11/14/2010 3:08:49 PM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Stoat

She thinks Americans are savages but lives and works here.

People here work, and work hard. They make money. Something I hear constantly from commies, is moaning and groaning about how everything has been ruined and destroyed by progress - but somehow they never want to live in those quaint backwards countries, just visit on vacation.

And France is not being assimilated by the US - it’s the muslims that are taking it over. And Britain too, if they don’t wake up.


12 posted on 11/14/2010 3:09:30 PM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: OKSooner

True - and Brigitte Bardot is plump, ugly and spent wa-a-a-ay too much time in the sun in St. Tropez.

On the other side of the coin, if she’s so sensitive to barbarians and all the filth of American pop culture, why in the world does she live in the very toilet bowl that feeds the sewer?


13 posted on 11/14/2010 3:11:43 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Beowulf9
This from a woman who starred in Bob Guccione's Caligula and accepted the paycheck.
14 posted on 11/14/2010 3:12:49 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Stoat

To Brits (even rich Brits living off the fat of the land in Hollywood), America is always at fault.

And the stupid cow doesn’t even think Monty Python is funny!

This from the woman who appeared in Caligula, The Thief, The Cook, His Wife, The Lover...whatever, Calendar Girls, I even saw her do a nude scene in Shakespeare at the National Theatre in London, for God’s sake.


15 posted on 11/14/2010 3:13:35 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: CaptainK

“This from a woman who starred in Bob Guccione’s Caligula and accepted the paycheck.”

Whoa! Didn’t know THAT!!!


16 posted on 11/14/2010 3:15:32 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Yep, she starred in that rather raunchy epic. Even I,a person with a strong stomach, was repelled by some of the stuff that went on in that thing.


17 posted on 11/14/2010 3:21:09 PM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Stoat

I love Helen Mirren and think that she’s a great actress. And as a guy and sexist pig that I am, I also just like looking at her naked, nude and naughty.

If you liked her nude in “The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover”,.....you’ll like her in “The Age Of Consent” too, a silly, cliched portrait of the so called typical “Bohemian” artist making bad paintings of beautiful nude young girls in and out of wet dresses.

http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Age-of-Consent/70110079?strackid=a4a9a1f60c6ff87_28_srl&strkid=902641101_28_2&trkid=496833#height2475

She’s still very smart and sexy despite her thoughts about America and Americans. I’ll give her a pass.


18 posted on 11/14/2010 3:31:16 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, rig ht here, right now, courtesy of Islam and illegal immigration.)
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To: garyhope

I’ll watch her movies, because she is a good actress. But I won’t give her a pass.

I can’t imagine running down your country (that gave her a title) AND the country she’s making good money in for being “savage”. She should get on her hands and knees and thank the US that we have developed a system that gives her the handsome paycheck she is used to.

In my book, that makes her an ingrate and an hypocritical snob.


19 posted on 11/14/2010 3:37:59 PM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: LibertyRocks

I don’t trust anyone who can’t appreciate a little Monty Python — at least on occasion. ;)

And the idea of lumping the spectacularly brilliant and timeless Monty Python's Flying Circus in with the FAR more coarse (and not nearly as funny or innovative, IMHO) Little Britain suggests to me that she either hasn't seen or understood either.

Love the puppy though. :) ROFL

  Delighted ;-)


20 posted on 11/14/2010 3:38:48 PM PST by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: CaptainK
I did hear that much of "Caligula" was added later and the known actors had no knowledge of many of the scenes that were added in post production. Of course if they were working for Guccione they could be sure he wasn't shooting "Mary Poppins."
21 posted on 11/14/2010 3:45:10 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Stoat

Laz would definitely hi...oh never mind.


22 posted on 11/14/2010 3:46:30 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Contributing to a book about GD I doesn't give you the right to print half a trillion dollars.)
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To: LibertyRocks

It was only revealed a few years ago that Elvis was a big Python fan. He often did all of the voices for his friends, even the “female” ones.


23 posted on 11/14/2010 3:48:35 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Stoat

I am defintely a Helen Mirren fan. She was pretty good in “Red”, certainly a type of role she normally doesn’t do.
Hope “Red II” is in the works, heck she could be in “Expendables II”.


24 posted on 11/14/2010 3:50:17 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Stoat

Benny Hill would know how to treat her.


25 posted on 11/14/2010 3:50:21 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: Stoat

Says the gal who was in Caligula and The Thief, The Wife, The Cook and Her Lover.

REAL life in the UK is cruel comedy.


26 posted on 11/14/2010 3:51:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: OKSooner

She is incredible. She even wears a 2 piece bathing suit at her age and looks sensational!


27 posted on 11/14/2010 3:51:42 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Russ
Someone break the news to her that Monty Python was almost 40 years ago

French humor? Somebody tell her that Jerry Lewis also goes back about that far.

28 posted on 11/14/2010 3:52:11 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I hated RED’. Another ‘the CIA is chasing me because the CIA is the bad guy’ movie (groan). Just sick and tired of it. No originality. Everything from The Expendables to A-Team...always CIA’s fault.


29 posted on 11/14/2010 4:08:05 PM PST by max americana
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To: Lazlo in PA; Stoat

I’m sure her plastic surgeon is very proud.


30 posted on 11/14/2010 4:38:09 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: BunnySlippers

She has to suck her belly in REAL, REAL hard, and hold her breath. (as do most women who are no longer girls)


31 posted on 11/14/2010 4:39:27 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: Stoat

she was evil sexy in Excalibur..


32 posted on 11/14/2010 4:41:02 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Beowulf9

Did she play the horse?


33 posted on 11/14/2010 5:28:08 PM PST by chuckee
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To: garyhope; All

She’s still very smart and sexy despite her thoughts about America and Americans. I’ll give her a pass.
If she chooses to rail against the cultural decline as being primarily due to "American" influences, I'll have to question how smart she truly is.  The cultural decline throughout the West is due almost exclusively to the cancer of the Left, not due to the core values that America was built upon, and the values that Conservatives want to uphold and guide America's return to.  Most people in America would not consider Hollywood 'values' to be representative of America at all, and in fact consider them to be entirely anti-American.  Dame Mirren is apparently so insulated from the real America, as so much of the Hollywood elite are, that she either cannot, or does not wish to, distinquish the two.
This sort of attitude is very common among people who have either never visited America or who have only gone to the hard-Left big cities and have never ventured into what most of us consider to be the 'real' America.  For most in the world this can be excused because, unfortunately, America's image is broadcast directly from the belly of the cancerous Beast, Hollywood and L.A. , and most people simply don't have the opportunity to learn how very wrong this is as a vision of America.
A spectacularly wealthy, supposedly well-traveled woman such as Dame Mirren, however, 'should' know better and the fact that she doesn't is a sad testament to the highly insular and intellecutally-corrupting environment of Hollywood.
And let's not forget that the BBC and the UK film industry is not exactly devoid of Leftists, who gleefully use their 'megaphone' for their own agenda just as the American Left does in Hollywood.

As far as her sexiness is concerned, that of course is perhaps the most subjective judgement possible and I won't quarrel with anyone else's vision of Beauty.  For myself, when I consider sexiness I also need to be able to respect the person who is the object of my adoration.  A woman could be an absolute stunner but if she's anti-American then I'll have no use for her.  "Hanoi Jane" Fonda comes to mind as perhaps the most offensive example, but there are plenty of beautiful Hollywood women who have similar sentiments of America being the 'enemy'.

Acting skill aside, no discussion of beautiful older women would be complete without mentioning Raquel Welch who very intelligently doesn't engage in a lot of divisive public political discussion but who has made a considerable effort to entertain our Military overseas and she has also made some comments against radical militant feminism, which I hold to her eternal credit and esteem.

September 5, 2010 was her 70th birthday.







34 posted on 11/14/2010 5:33:26 PM PST by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

With the exception of Monty Python and currently Ricky Gervais, the Brits suck at comedy. The French suck too with no names coming to mind. The Italians, on the other hand, are the best on the continent at it. They are not afraid to make fun of themselves.


35 posted on 11/14/2010 5:33:32 PM PST by chuckee
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To: chuckee
I appreciate that, thank you. I must confess ignorance to current Italian comedians, probably because I don't speak Italian.  Are there any who come to mind as being particularly representative of what you refer to, perhaps some who might have subtitled videos available?

I've always found the Italian language to be quite beautiful when spoken, and when sung it can be captivating.

YouTube - Pooh - Il primo giorno di liberta'(1976)

YouTube - Claudio Baglioni-E tu

I'm not surprised that Italy would produce some great comedians, and I'd be delighted to hear their work.

36 posted on 11/14/2010 6:11:47 PM PST by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

Anything Roberto Benigni is in is funny. Il Professore is also funny and cute too. Somewhat dated and older stuff but still funny are Divorce Italian Style and Big Deal on Madonna Street.That is just for starters. What I like about their humor is it is never mean spirited and always self deprecating.


37 posted on 11/14/2010 7:51:19 PM PST by chuckee
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To: OKSooner

She was awesome in ‘Red’. Love me some Helen, even though she wrong here.


38 posted on 11/14/2010 7:53:33 PM PST by rintense
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To: Captain Peter Blood
I am defintely a Helen Mirren fan. She was pretty good in “Red”, certainly a type of role she normally doesn’t do. Hope “Red II” is in the works, heck she could be in “Expendables II”.

+ 1

I liked both. Also liked "The American." Subtle style of shooting (film-wise) a few technical gaffes, but overall a good movie.

39 posted on 11/14/2010 8:59:49 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus - Domari Nolo)
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To: Stoat

40 posted on 11/14/2010 9:11:48 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: chuckee

“The French suck too with no names coming to mind.”

Serge Gainsbourg...The image of BB (Brigitte Bardot)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rBiTL0ej2o


41 posted on 11/14/2010 10:06:18 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: chuckee

Of course, that’s not French comdedy, for comedy they had Jerry Lewis.


42 posted on 11/14/2010 10:15:08 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: AU72; I still care; Stoat

>>> LOL! Jerry Lewis got a medal from the French for his comedy.

It’s not that difficult to see why.

Jerry Lewis - The Errand Boy (1961) Pantomime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MA3406YJUg

Jerry Lewis -The Ladies Man (Forbidden Room)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAwKPjDwb9M

>>> She thinks Americans are savages but lives and works here.

She didn’t say that. She said that the current forms of humor have degraded from prior times. She is right. The cheap shot and the sexual innuendo are about all that is marketed. Tina Fey just received the honor of the MARK TWAIN AWARD.


43 posted on 11/15/2010 12:32:43 AM PST by tlb
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To: Stoat

Mirren is a helluva an actress


44 posted on 11/15/2010 12:34:34 AM PST by wardaddy (diversity is only good if you are young and unmarried and chasing women)
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To: Slings and Arrows

so what?

he’s subtle..the doc that is

she doesn’t look like much knife work...maybe botox and restalin....that would be a dermatologist

good genes...my wife has them too

i don’t...life ain’t fair

women can do whatever they like to look good to me....I am grateful and I’m sure whoever is sleeping with Helen is too


45 posted on 11/15/2010 12:38:02 AM PST by wardaddy (diversity is only good if you are young and unmarried and chasing women)
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To: Stoat

some serious feline envy screeching on this thread...God bless ya Helen..anyhow and btw...she did not do any graphic sex in Caligula like some did but knowing her I’m sure she got naked

contrast with not so pretty Chloe Sevigny...the darling of fashionistas who gave fellatio to Vincent Gallo in one of his weird flicks and gets applauded for her art

Helen may not be very shy but she is cool...at least to me.

I bet she would be amused that she has fans and ardent defenders on a right wing forum in The States.


46 posted on 11/15/2010 12:42:24 AM PST by wardaddy (diversity is only good if you are young and unmarried and chasing women)
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To: tlb

I have children and have noticed that many comedy shows directed at children have just wise cracks, scatological humor, and parent put downs. This is especially true of Disney.

Gone are the days when one hears a “yes sir” or a “yes ma’am” from popular kid’s TV.


47 posted on 11/15/2010 10:40:07 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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