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Auburn Falls Short, Boise State Looks Strong: How the Top 4 BCS Teams Match Up
Bleacher Report ^ | 11/16/10 | Bohdi Sanders

Posted on 11/16/2010 11:57:18 AM PST by pissant

The 2010 season is winding down and there are only four undefeated teams left going into the home stretch. The media is obviously hoping for a matchup between No. 1 Oregon and No. 2 Auburn, but are they really the two best teams?

All four of these undefeated teams are in the top eight nationally in total offense. It is on the defensive side of the ball where the distinction lies. Oregon, TCU and Boise State are all in the top 20 in total defense. Boise State and TCU are in the top three.

Auburn is ranked No. 51 in total defense, and I think that this is destined to be its downfall. With games coming up against Alabama and South Carolina, the Tigers' luck will likely run out.

My power ranking as of today would be:

No. 1 Boise State No. 2 Oregon No. 3 TCU No. 4 Auburn

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I couldn't have written it better meself
1 posted on 11/16/2010 11:57:23 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

You can’t base how good a team is based on statistics, because they play different schedules.


2 posted on 11/16/2010 11:58:25 AM PST by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: pissant

TCU & Boise State in the top 5 = affirmative action has come to college football! What a joke...


3 posted on 11/16/2010 11:59:55 AM PST by Finop (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.)
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To: pissant

I have a feeling Auburn is going to A. have at least one loss, and B. be ineligible for bowl play pretty soon.


4 posted on 11/16/2010 12:00:21 PM PST by babble-on
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To: dfwgator

That’s always going to be the case. Even in the NFL, outside your division. The way the Broncos defense pasted top ranked offense TCU last year tells me he’s on the right track.


5 posted on 11/16/2010 12:00:26 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: dfwgator

They are taking that into account too.


6 posted on 11/16/2010 12:01:18 PM PST by library user
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To: Finop

Affirmative action is Auburn.


7 posted on 11/16/2010 12:01:32 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: dfwgator

But if Auburn wins out, undefeated from a conference that has produced the last four national champions, how could they not be in the title game (barring complications from the eligibility of Cam Newton)?


8 posted on 11/16/2010 12:02:07 PM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: babble-on

THey might end up with two losses. Which will show they never belonged anyway.


9 posted on 11/16/2010 12:04:03 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Finop

There is one way to solve this.

At the end of the season, force teams that finish in the Top 32, to play two games against other Top 32 teams, outside of their conference, in the following season. You could have a drawing to determine the opponents, the details can be worked out to make sure it’s fair, i.e., one team is from 1-16 and the other is from 17-32. Of course teams will change in strength from season to season with graduation, but does the Top 25 change all that much from year to year?

That would force Boise State and TCU to play two top-notch teams, and if they win both of their assigned games, then they deserve to be considered as legit.


10 posted on 11/16/2010 12:04:34 PM PST by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: pissant

If either one of those teams played in the Big 10, SEC, Big 12 or PAC 10 their stats would be WAY down and more importantly, they’d have at least 2 or 3 losses... Don’t waste my time.


11 posted on 11/16/2010 12:05:29 PM PST by Finop (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.)
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To: pissant
One of these four...
--will be out of the National Championship picture in about 10 days...

Roll Tide!

12 posted on 11/16/2010 12:06:39 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: pissant
I couldn't have written it better meself

I would reverse their No. 2 & 3 and then I think they have it right.

13 posted on 11/16/2010 12:06:49 PM PST by library user
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To: pissant

Other than having 1 and 2 reversed I concur with this assessment.


14 posted on 11/16/2010 12:07:57 PM PST by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

If I had to say which SEC team is playing the best right now, I would have to say Arkansas. I expect them to steamroll over LSU.


15 posted on 11/16/2010 12:08:47 PM PST by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: pissant

Schedule Strength: Auburn 19, Oregon 55, BSU 87, TCU 93.


16 posted on 11/16/2010 12:11:10 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: pissant
Even though the school has strayed from its original 19th century restoration roots (the Stone-Campbell movement), it must make liberals angry that a school named Texas Christian University is getting recognition this year.

Furthermore, among the top of the BCS, the only private university is Texas Christian. The others are all government-run schools.

Oh, did I mention that the full name of TCU is:

Texas CHRISTIAN University.

That must be doubly annoying to atheistic liberals because the name includes Texas (a mostly Conservative state they hate with a passion) and Christian (poison to liberals).

17 posted on 11/16/2010 12:12:32 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas...)
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To: Finop

affirmative action has come to college football! What a joke..

This includes the Big East getting a BCS birth regardless of record even though they are ALL mediocre.

....and I’m a Syracuse fan stating this.


18 posted on 11/16/2010 12:13:58 PM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: pissant
TCU Horney Toads beat up my Utes so bad our poor little quarterback is as psyched out as Dale Jr. The next week he threw about 8 interceptions to the Drunken Irish. You just wait TCU, We'll get you in women's gymnastics or ice dancing. But seriously, we have a variation of the same little lizard which we call a Horney Toad. Is Horned Frogs the name used for the actual lizard, or is it just the name of the fine team, sort of cleaned up for company.
19 posted on 11/16/2010 12:14:07 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Onelifetogive

From another source=Schedule Strength - Auburn 26, Oregon 71, BSU 81, TCU 83


20 posted on 11/16/2010 12:14:56 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: pissant

I hate Auburn. But this guy is smoking crack if he thinks Boise would stay on the field with them for more than a quarter. Cam Newton is a cheater, but he’s that good. 1. Oregon. 1A Auburn, pick your order. Everybody else is way back there in irrelevance land.

Boise can beat an Oklahoma or VT on any given day, I’ll give them that. But when they go undefeated through an SEC schedule, where they have to play to that level week after week, then we’ll talk. Same goes for TCU.


21 posted on 11/16/2010 12:16:32 PM PST by balch3
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To: Finop

This


22 posted on 11/16/2010 12:18:22 PM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: pissant
Affirmative action is Auburn.

That's to be expected anymore from government-run schools.

My (impossible) dream is that the budget crisis gets so bad in California that UCB is sold and becomes a branch of Bob Jones University or perhaps Liberty University. And UCLA becoming the west coach campus for Regent University would top that idealized scenario off quite nicely.

23 posted on 11/16/2010 12:18:22 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas...)
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To: Finop

Yeah. They keep saying stuff like that, but its bunk.

MWC holding own vs. BCS teams
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/695221648/MWC-holding-own-vs-BCS-teams.html

MWC goes 4-0 vs. Pac 10
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700258733/MWC-goes-4-0-vs-Pac-10.html

Las Vegas Bowl: BYU 44, Oregon State 20

Poinsettia Bowl: Utah 37, California 27

Texas Bowl: Navy 35, Missouri 13


24 posted on 11/16/2010 12:19:48 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Boise State has beaten Oregon 2 years (2008, 2009) in a row.


25 posted on 11/16/2010 12:20:26 PM PST by RabidBartender
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To: Onelifetogive

That’s made by idiots who consistently rank all the BCS conference teams, mediocre as most are, as tougher than WCC and MWC teams. It hasn’t been true for a long time.


26 posted on 11/16/2010 12:22:13 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: RabidBartender

And would beat them again.


27 posted on 11/16/2010 12:22:56 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Yep. Roll Tide. Bear Bryant is watching.


28 posted on 11/16/2010 12:24:07 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: dfwgator
That would force Boise State and TCU to play two top-notch teams, and if they win both of their assigned games, then they deserve to be considered as legit.

Or more to the point, force top-notch teams to play Boise State.

Didn't TCU play a #5 team, and Boise State play a #10 team?

29 posted on 11/16/2010 12:25:22 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: pissant

This is like a minor league baseball team demanding to be included in the major league World Series because of how much they dominated their league. And when told that they had not played any major leagure teams reply, “We asked, but they refused to play us.”


30 posted on 11/16/2010 12:27:34 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: balch3

Viginia Tech has 10 wins or more 5 years running and were ACC champs when Boise scheduled them, so I don’t think Boise State is avoiding tough games.

I think Boise would definitely jump if a regional BCS conference (Pac 10, Big XII) invited them. Same with TCU. I don’t know if the big boys want to expand though.


31 posted on 11/16/2010 12:27:35 PM PST by RabidBartender
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To: Onelifetogive

The lower the number the more difficult the schedule? Help a brotha out!


32 posted on 11/16/2010 12:27:57 PM PST by library user
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To: dfwgator
I'm not an Auburn fan in any shape or fashion, but there is no way that Boise State, TCU, or even Oregon could have made it through the season with an undefeated record, if they had to play in the SEC. I'm live on the West Coast and have watched quite a bit of PAC football. Its good but its not at the level of play as one finds in the SEC. Face it, SEC football is the best in the country. The record of the last four years speaks for itself. This isn't to claim that SEC football will always be on top, but it is now.
As much as I hate to admit it, if Auburn plays Oregon, the War Eagles will win in a walk.
33 posted on 11/16/2010 12:28:20 PM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: dfwgator

Thanks for jinxing my Hogs...:(


34 posted on 11/16/2010 12:28:51 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: Onelifetogive

Watch when Boise state plays your beloved over-rated conference team in a bowl and then get back to me.


35 posted on 11/16/2010 12:29:28 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
If Auburn was in the WAC or the Mountain West Conference (if conferences had sequels, the MWC would be called "WAC 2"), they would probably be ranked higher in total defense.

If South Carolina was in the MWC, and Arkansas in the WAC, they would probably both be undefeated and in the top 5.

Both the WAC and MWC have two ranked teams each. The SEC has six ranked teams. That is half of the 12-team conference. The SEC Western Division has five ranked teams. Not only does the SEC have more ranked teams than any other conference, but the SEC Western Division has as many ranked teams as the entire Big 12, and more than any other conference.

36 posted on 11/16/2010 12:29:38 PM PST by magellan
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To: pissant
Forget Auburn. The will end up having to forfeit this entire season.
37 posted on 11/16/2010 12:30:14 PM PST by Niteranger68 (I am in the party of "HELL NO"!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; Jemian

If I had time to get into this thread, I would. Too much to do right now. Maybe I will save comment for once the bowl match ups are made.

Just wanted to send a ping.


38 posted on 11/16/2010 12:32:13 PM PST by del4hope (Admendment IV to the US Constitution. Print it and bring it with you when you fly.)
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To: magellan

Yet thos conferences keep getting their asses handed to them when they play a non BCS team in a bowl game.


39 posted on 11/16/2010 12:32:14 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
For Auburn to fall, all it would take is for Ca$h Newton to be disqualified. He is their offense. The NCAA has become a bunch of power hungry freaks who likely put money on games, so who knows what could happen?

Their dirty and dangerous defensive hitman Fairley should be suspended.




40 posted on 11/16/2010 12:32:42 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, what are you hiding? Release your Birth Certificate!)
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To: Niteranger68

Reggie Bush was in the NFL for 4 years before USC was punished for anything.


41 posted on 11/16/2010 12:34:01 PM PST by RabidBartender
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To: pissant

1 game does not a season make...

Let me say it again... If either one of those 2 teams played a 10 game schedule in the Big 10, SEC, Big 12 or the PAC 10 conference, their stats would be WAY down and more importantly, they’d have at least 2 or 3 losses... Sorry - Neither one of them belong in the top 5... I just looked at both TCU & Boise State’s schedules - and I’m still laughing.

http://www.broncosports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9900&SPID=4061&SPSID=48555

http://gofrogs.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/sched/tcu-m-footbl-sched.html


42 posted on 11/16/2010 12:36:05 PM PST by Finop (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

What a scumbag cheap shot.


43 posted on 11/16/2010 12:36:26 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: FreeAtlanta
I was happy as hell to see Jones and a few other UGA players go after Fairley’s knees. Too bad they didn't break his legs. He deserves to be chopped on every play.
44 posted on 11/16/2010 12:37:06 PM PST by Niteranger68 (I am in the party of "HELL NO"!)
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To: Finop

Nonsense.


45 posted on 11/16/2010 12:38:31 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

As an SMU fan it pains me to compliment TCU, but I have watched that team for years. This year’s squad is loaded with Senior talent and would give any team a very good game.

I am sure both TCU and Boise would jump at the chance to play in a BCS conference. But the system is rigged to favor a few select conferences. That is why I see the schedule/conference whining a moot point. TCU and Boise don’t have the option of playing in the SEC or Big Ten. But they have both taken care of the schedule they were given. If they are the last two standing, let them play.

And to avoid this nonsense in the future, instead of having this farcical BCS game, institute a true 16-team playoff and settle the championship on the field like its done for every other sport at every level.


46 posted on 11/16/2010 12:39:25 PM PST by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Didn't TCU play a #5 team.

Yeah , but they kept hitting us when were weren't ready and refused to be arm tackled. Kyle Wittingham is a damn BYU deep cover mole, I knew it.

Iron Eyes Cody weeps for the Utes like the the crazy horse called Beck. Utes start TCU game ranked 5 , end the game like number two.

47 posted on 11/16/2010 12:40:15 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Onelifetogive

Bama will be loaded for bear (pun intended) Saban will havew the Tide foaming at the mouth. If War Eagle wins, and then beats SC in Atlanta, they should be #1..no matter what the Ducks do...<{>
Here’s anoher interesting thought..there’s about a 3% probability..if everythign broke right, that Oregon finishes up at #1, and Stanford jumps to #2..that would set up a REMATCH for the BCS title game..that would be a bummer..


48 posted on 11/16/2010 12:41:40 PM PST by ken5050 (I don't need sex.....the government screws me every day..)
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To: Onelifetogive
Bama will be loaded for bear (pun intended) Saban will havew the Tide foaming at the mouth. If War Eagle wins, and then beats SC in Atlanta, they should be #1..no matter what the Ducks do...

Here's anoher interesting thought..there's about a 3% probability..if everything broke right, that Oregon finishes up at #1, and Stanford jumps to #2..that would set up a REMATCH for the BCS title game..that would be a bummer..

49 posted on 11/16/2010 12:41:57 PM PST by ken5050 (I don't need sex.....the government screws me every day..)
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To: RatRipper
If there will ever be a problem with Ca$h Newton, the NCAA needs to do it before the Alabama game and the sooner the better. If not then, they need to do it before the SEC championship game. If not then, then before the NCAA championship game.

I wonder if the NCAA is putting money on games and manipulating the points with the eligibility?

50 posted on 11/16/2010 12:42:16 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, what are you hiding? Release your Birth Certificate!)
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