Skip to comments.Male star leads (All-Girls)field hockey team. Is he an unfair edge(Double Standard at work!)?
Posted on 11/16/2010 7:10:13 PM PST by greatdefender
Wyoming Seminary in Forty Fort, Pa., is a traditional field hockey powerhouse, so it's no surprise that it's back in contention for a state title, with a berth in the state championship game on the line Wednesday afternoon in Seminary's faceoff with Crestwood (Pa.) High (the semifinal against Crestwood was originally scheduled for Tuesday afternoon but was postponed by bad weather). What is surprising is how Seminary is advancing through the playoffs, on the back of a male player who is singlehandedly dominating all Seminary's opponents.That player is Cornelius Tietze, a junior and German native who joined the Seminary field hockey team this season and has played as the squad's lone male player ... and the only boy on the field in practically all of 24-2 Seminary's games, for that matter. In his last two outings, Tietze led his team to a 4-3 victory over District 3-AA runner-up Donegal with three goals and an assist, and a 4-2 win against Villa Maria, a game in which he again scored three goals.
The CitizensVoice.com game story of Wyoming Seminary's victory against Villa Maria makes it clear just how dominant the German can be. The junior scored the game's first goal, then helped Seminary rebound after it allowed two goals with both a lone-man breakaway goal and the game-winning score just minutes later.
Tietze's dominance has sparked renewed questions of the fairness in allowing a male athlete to play in a sport traditionally played in America by girls alone. Last week, PennLive.com asked that question and received a largely rancorous attack against male participation, with the exception of the two posters who actually were field hockey players.
As many posted on the comments, when a girl is part of the football team: it receives praise; while a boy in an all-girls sport is "wrong" & "sexists".
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Is it an “all-girl” sport with a rule prohibiting males, or is it a game that is traditionally played by girls? If the rules don’t prohibit it, and if he’s good, he can play. Period.
Every now and then the ACLU makes a stink and forces some school to allow a girl onto a male team and to let her into the male locker room. I see a double standard at work here. I say he should stay on the team.
Wonder how long until we start seeing this on a wider scale due to Title IX.
I agree. In fact, in some states, it stated in their rule book that you can have an co-ed team as long the sport is not played by two separate genders. In other words, in this case, if the boys do not have a field hockey team, then they can be in the girls team. This is why you hear many girls in football team. Since they do not have a girls (tackle) football team, they can be in the football team. It is strange when you think about it. Like you said, if no rules prohibiting of a co-ed team, then it is legal.
“Tietze’s dominance has sparked renewed questions of the fairness in allowing a male athlete to play in a sport traditionally played in America by girls alone.”
So one guy taking on an opposing team of ten girls is considered unfair?
“Last week, PennLive.com asked that question and received a largely rancorous attack against male participation, with the exception of the two posters who actually were field hockey players.”
I thought guys and gals were supposed to be equal. Judging by the Feministas reaction it looks like reality says something else.
so, let’s review the facts:
a) he’s the star athlete on the team
b) on a team of female hardbodies, he’s the only male.
All I can say is... WAY TO GO, SLICK! (wink)
I’m trying to figure out how this guy keeps from getting distracted by all the hot chicks on the field he’s playing with and against. It looks like he has great focus and concentration and that tenacious male drive to win even when the odds are against him.
Would Tietze’s name be pronounced “teats”?
Wyoming Seminary 1844
State of Wyoming 1890
I'm surprised it took so long.........
That’s the team slogan — “Come out and watch us play! You’ll be staring at our Tietze the whole time!”
Actually I feel the same way about this as I do girls invading male domains. He should compete with his own.
We’re men, MANLY men, we’re men in Tietze . Yeah!
We roam around the forest looking for fights.
We’re men, we’re men in Tietze.
We rob from the rich and give to the poor, that’s right!
We may look like pansies, but don’t get us wrong or else we’ll put out your lights.
We’re men, we’re men in Tietze (TIGHT Tietze ),
Always on guard defending the people’s rights.
When you’re in a fix just call for the men in Tietze !
2009 Ncaa Mens Lacrosse Highlights
2010 Women’s Lacrosse Championship Highlights
If you watch both videos you can see the men are much more aggressive than the women.
I bet his buddies sign up for next year to be on the same team!
I get the tit for tat argument; but seriously, he shouldn’t be playing.
Wyoming Territory, 1803-
This is stupid. He shouldn’t be competing against girls.
However, if I was him, I’d stay on that team as long as I could.
I am the intergender field hocky champion!
As a territory it was the first to allow females to vote — 1869 as I recall.
But this is Wyoming County, Pennsylvania. I think some from here settled the state of Wyoming.
There is another story about two brothers, hockey players, who are playing for the South Hadley, MA field hockey team. They play for the state championship this weekend.
I am not that old, but I cringe at the thought of me going home and telling my Dad that I made the field hockey team. He would have laughed at me until her realized I was serious. Then he would have gotten mad.
Nothing wrong with field hockey. And there is nothing wrong with men’s field hockey—it can be an exciting and brutally physical game. But young men playing on a girls team simply provides them too much of an advantage in speed and overall strength.
This is another prime example that just because you have the right to do something, that you should go ahead and do it.
Good way to meet girls.
I wonder if he showers with the team after games.
having a male play on an almost exclusive female team is insane.....it would be like allowing a pro football player to play on a HS team...
is it fair to allow that?....how about having a repeatedly held back 22 yro play on a HS team?....
of course not....there are different levels for different athletes...yet no one puts anyone down for playing on a lower level, except of course if its a girls team...
I'll bet this guy couldn't make any boys teams so he decided to be on a girls team....we are supposed to be surprised that he is excelling?.....like Peyton Manning wouldn't be a hit on a HS team...
please name the school that allows a girl player into a male locker room....
“All I can say is... WAY TO GO, SLICK! (wink)”
Have you ever seen a woman field hockey player?
The times they are a changing!
Back in my day the field hockey team was NOT where you went looking for a date. But these days the field hockey girls are some of the best athletes out there. They are in shape, they look good, and they are true athletes.
Year in and year out, the college FH teams I work with (from about 25 different schools) have the best looking, and most fun girls on them. And the new uniforms are pretty cute too.
No, they are not our Mom’s field hockey players.
This touches on one of my pet peeves: girls who want to compete with boys. My boys wrestle and every year there are girls on some of the teams. Who ever has to wrestle her is put in a no win situation. Wrestling is a very rough sport and most boys don’t want to treat a girl like that, and it’s awful to lose to a girl.
A boy playing against girls proves just how silly “equality” is when it comes to athletics.
>> Have you ever seen a woman field hockey player?
Well, er, no I can’t say that I have. But at high school age, c’mon, how bad could it be? :-)
Yep, I will bet that he wears his cup tight.
I can’t remember the name of it. I believe it wa either in Michigan or Canada. I’ll try to remember the exact name and local later.
Comparing a boy playing on a girls’ team is not nearly the same as Manning playing against a HS team. Yes, biologically, males may be stronger and/or faster, but field hockey is much more a game of skill, stick-work, & strategy.
Go watch a game of a state championship contender and you’ll understand why your argument makes no sense. They are all EXCELLENT players. He has been playing since he was 3 years old! Most kids around here don’t start until they are in grade school. It is a way of life for men in Europe and the Middle East. There’s no shame in it there, as there shouldn’t be here. Likely, we’re all able to realize that the people who put down a player like this boy, as well as the girls he plays against, was not much of an athlete in High School.
I was on the State Champion Field Hockey team in this same division. I would have relished playing against him. When you play an excellent opponent, there is no choice but to raise your level of play.
it’s interesting to me that most of the people complaining are men, and they’re really just putting him down. Please don’t assume, on the part of the opposite gender no less, that we are anything but OK with his presence. Women fought for Title 9, for EVERYONE. It is not a gender-specific law. It entitles anyone to play on a team of the opposite gender if there is none available for their own gender. I’m thankful for it across the board.
Women fought for Title 9 for EVERYONE, not just ourselves. This is why there is no “forcing” (your word) of a male onto a woman’s team! Please, as a woman, I am begging you to stop this line of thinking. It makes us look like whiners. I have 3 boys and I hope they get to play any sport, instrument, whatever they want without ridicule or judgement. If your husband thinks a boy playing on a girls’ team is a P****, then I feel really sorry for you & your daughter b/c all he’s putting out there is that women are inferior & that it’s a step down for a boy to join them. Really sad commentary from a father to a daughter.
The rules regarding contact are substantially different, the last I looked.
Also, the inequality I see in sports now is more based on the girls getting lousy equipment compared to the boys newer equipment, less gym time, etc, They at least now must have an equal number of sports teams. It does not have to do with allowing boys to play girls sports. My husband would never tell either of my daughters they are “inferior” athletes. But our whole family plainly sees the inherent differences among the sexes. We play to our strengths. My husband, I, and our two girls all play sports. I have spoken at board meetings and to coach’s directly about equipment issues and practice times. Having three boys, I can understand how you would want them to have every opportunity, but I don’t think that opportunity should come at the expense of others— in this case girls interested in being part of a team. Your boys will develop in ways my girls never will. With that boy in the article playing field hockey scoring almost all of the goals, what message does that send? Girls can, and will, infer that he is the superior player, hence they are made to feel inferior— who does that help?
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