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Male star leads (All-Girls)field hockey team. Is he an unfair edge(Double Standard at work!)?
Rivals-Yahoo! | November 16, 2010 | Cameron Smith

Posted on 11/16/2010 7:10:13 PM PST by greatdefender

Wyoming Seminary in Forty Fort, Pa., is a traditional field hockey powerhouse, so it's no surprise that it's back in contention for a state title, with a berth in the state championship game on the line Wednesday afternoon in Seminary's faceoff with Crestwood (Pa.) High (the semifinal against Crestwood was originally scheduled for Tuesday afternoon but was postponed by bad weather). What is surprising is how Seminary is advancing through the playoffs, on the back of a male player who is singlehandedly dominating all Seminary's opponents.That player is Cornelius Tietze, a junior and German native who joined the Seminary field hockey team this season and has played as the squad's lone male player ... and the only boy on the field in practically all of 24-2 Seminary's games, for that matter. In his last two outings, Tietze led his team to a 4-3 victory over District 3-AA runner-up Donegal with three goals and an assist, and a 4-2 win against Villa Maria, a game in which he again scored three goals.

The game story of Wyoming Seminary's victory against Villa Maria makes it clear just how dominant the German can be. The junior scored the game's first goal, then helped Seminary rebound after it allowed two goals with both a lone-man breakaway goal and the game-winning score just minutes later.

Tietze's dominance has sparked renewed questions of the fairness in allowing a male athlete to play in a sport traditionally played in America by girls alone. Last week, asked that question and received a largely rancorous attack against male participation, with the exception of the two posters who actually were field hockey players.

TOPICS: Education; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: boy; fieldhockey; girls; sport
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To: ThomasThomas

Wyoming Territory, 1803-

21 posted on 11/16/2010 8:28:28 PM PST by nuance4u
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To: greatdefender

This is stupid. He shouldn’t be competing against girls.

However, if I was him, I’d stay on that team as long as I could.

22 posted on 11/16/2010 8:43:30 PM PST by Brucifer (Proud member of the Double Secret Reloading Underground.)
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To: greatdefender

I am the intergender field hocky champion!

23 posted on 11/16/2010 8:46:25 PM PST by Nooseman (mutt)
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To: nuance4u

As a territory it was the first to allow females to vote — 1869 as I recall.

But this is Wyoming County, Pennsylvania. I think some from here settled the state of Wyoming.

24 posted on 11/16/2010 8:47:22 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: Brucifer

There is another story about two brothers, hockey players, who are playing for the South Hadley, MA field hockey team. They play for the state championship this weekend.

I am not that old, but I cringe at the thought of me going home and telling my Dad that I made the field hockey team. He would have laughed at me until her realized I was serious. Then he would have gotten mad.

Nothing wrong with field hockey. And there is nothing wrong with men’s field hockey—it can be an exciting and brutally physical game. But young men playing on a girls team simply provides them too much of an advantage in speed and overall strength.

This is another prime example that just because you have the right to do something, that you should go ahead and do it.

25 posted on 11/16/2010 8:53:39 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: ari-freedom

26 posted on 11/16/2010 8:56:28 PM PST by greatdefender (If You Want Peace.....Prepare For War)
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To: greatdefender

Good way to meet girls.

27 posted on 11/16/2010 8:58:07 PM PST by Redcitizen (The Democrats got the Tea virus- they're zombies!)
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To: greatdefender

I wonder if he showers with the team after games.

28 posted on 11/16/2010 8:59:02 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: greatdefender
this is ridiculous..

having a male play on an almost exclusive female team is would be like allowing a pro football player to play on a HS team...

is it fair to allow that? about having a repeatedly held back 22 yro play on a HS team?....

of course not....there are different levels for different athletes...yet no one puts anyone down for playing on a lower level, except of course if its a girls team...

I'll bet this guy couldn't make any boys teams so he decided to be on a girls team....we are supposed to be surprised that he is excelling? Peyton Manning wouldn't be a hit on a HS team...

29 posted on 11/16/2010 9:05:12 PM PST by cherry
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To: Celtic Cross

please name the school that allows a girl player into a male locker room....

30 posted on 11/16/2010 9:08:13 PM PST by cherry
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To: Nervous Tick

“All I can say is... WAY TO GO, SLICK! (wink)”

Have you ever seen a woman field hockey player?

31 posted on 11/16/2010 9:15:43 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

The times they are a changing!

Back in my day the field hockey team was NOT where you went looking for a date. But these days the field hockey girls are some of the best athletes out there. They are in shape, they look good, and they are true athletes.

Year in and year out, the college FH teams I work with (from about 25 different schools) have the best looking, and most fun girls on them. And the new uniforms are pretty cute too.

No, they are not our Mom’s field hockey players.

32 posted on 11/16/2010 9:19:30 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: greatdefender

This touches on one of my pet peeves: girls who want to compete with boys. My boys wrestle and every year there are girls on some of the teams. Who ever has to wrestle her is put in a no win situation. Wrestling is a very rough sport and most boys don’t want to treat a girl like that, and it’s awful to lose to a girl.

A boy playing against girls proves just how silly “equality” is when it comes to athletics.

33 posted on 11/16/2010 9:42:21 PM PST by Spudx7
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Men's lacrosse is more aggressive because of the rules. In men's Lacrosse, you are allowed to hit, like in hockey, not in women's— only stick on stick (now that sounds funny! :)), I can't really be any more specific because that's the husbands sport and he's sleeping. He went to Syracuse, and played Lacrosse from an early age. He thinks that girls should be able to hit because our 9 year old is a tough one! But I think it's unfair for boys to be on girls teams, they develop differently and are more muscular by high school. And I'm sure my husband would not have wanted to play with girls— what does it prove? If a girl can play a boys sport, like football, it's usually because she is exceptional. If a boy forces his way onto a girls team, well I guess the hubby would say he's a 5 letter word for a cat that starts with a P. just sayin...
34 posted on 11/16/2010 10:05:26 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: Kirkwood

>> Have you ever seen a woman field hockey player?

Well, er, no I can’t say that I have. But at high school age, c’mon, how bad could it be? :-)

35 posted on 11/17/2010 5:29:42 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: skeeter
I'm certain those girls aren't cutting him any slack with those sticks.

Yep, I will bet that he wears his cup tight.

36 posted on 11/17/2010 6:19:33 AM PST by 2001convSVT ("Repeal ObamaCare")
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To: cherry

I can’t remember the name of it. I believe it wa either in Michigan or Canada. I’ll try to remember the exact name and local later.

37 posted on 11/17/2010 7:20:14 AM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat.)
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To: cherry

Comparing a boy playing on a girls’ team is not nearly the same as Manning playing against a HS team. Yes, biologically, males may be stronger and/or faster, but field hockey is much more a game of skill, stick-work, & strategy.
Go watch a game of a state championship contender and you’ll understand why your argument makes no sense. They are all EXCELLENT players. He has been playing since he was 3 years old! Most kids around here don’t start until they are in grade school. It is a way of life for men in Europe and the Middle East. There’s no shame in it there, as there shouldn’t be here. Likely, we’re all able to realize that the people who put down a player like this boy, as well as the girls he plays against, was not much of an athlete in High School.
I was on the State Champion Field Hockey team in this same division. I would have relished playing against him. When you play an excellent opponent, there is no choice but to raise your level of play.
it’s interesting to me that most of the people complaining are men, and they’re really just putting him down. Please don’t assume, on the part of the opposite gender no less, that we are anything but OK with his presence. Women fought for Title 9, for EVERYONE. It is not a gender-specific law. It entitles anyone to play on a team of the opposite gender if there is none available for their own gender. I’m thankful for it across the board.
Grow up.

38 posted on 11/17/2010 12:55:03 PM PST by begoney (Women fought for Title 9 for EVERYONE. We're grateful for its equality & don't assume any less of us)
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To: MacMattico

Women fought for Title 9 for EVERYONE, not just ourselves. This is why there is no “forcing” (your word) of a male onto a woman’s team! Please, as a woman, I am begging you to stop this line of thinking. It makes us look like whiners. I have 3 boys and I hope they get to play any sport, instrument, whatever they want without ridicule or judgement. If your husband thinks a boy playing on a girls’ team is a P****, then I feel really sorry for you & your daughter b/c all he’s putting out there is that women are inferior & that it’s a step down for a boy to join them. Really sad commentary from a father to a daughter.

39 posted on 11/17/2010 12:55:17 PM PST by begoney (Women fought for Title 9 for EVERYONE. We're grateful for its equality & don't assume any less of us)
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To: begoney
Yes, I realized “forcing” was the wrong word after I had posted. That part I agree with. The other stuff— not so much. Men and women develop differently when they reach puberty, that's a fact. I don't see any women in the NFL, NBA, or MLB. And it's not that they don't want to be— I wanted to play for the Yankees when I grew up. It became apparent at about 12 I was developing differently and it wasn't going to happen. A women a few years back made it to the final cut in open try outs for the Yankees, but that was because she was beyond exceptional, and had developed muscles and running ability unlike the way most girls develop. When a boy makes a girls team, it means another girl didn't. So that girl is left out
because a boy with a biological advantage was given her place. This is a high school boy the article spoke about, there were most assuredly try-
outs and a girl was cut from the team. Is that the equality you speak of? If boys are allowed to play all girl sports, starting line ups will become all male at a certain age. That is fact. Is that equality? Women are not inferior, but play to their different strengths— please don't put down my husband or I because we realize this. For instance, the women's basketball game is more one of finesse, in my opinion, then the men's. Women develop the outside shot better in some ways because they just don't look for the easy lay up with the 7 ft center— because their aren't any 7 foot centers, and if you let men play women's basketball, those 7 ft centers will take out even the 6 ft tall woman every time. Take fast-pitch college softball, it's developed into it's own sport in some ways quite different then baseball, based on women's strengths. I don't find it any less interesting then baseball, just different. As for instruments, who says a girls can't play the same instruments as boys?
40 posted on 11/17/2010 7:25:02 PM PST by MacMattico
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