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"Caprica:" the autopsy
Vanity | 11/17/10

Posted on 11/17/2010 9:51:59 AM PST by pabianice

As many here know, SyFy's "Caprica" was unceremoniously pulled several weeks ago. Pulled so fast that there remain five unaired episodes. Pulled so fast that the cast first learned of it on the net.

What has been printed so far suggests that there were "script problems" that led the producers to pull it faster than a woman grabbing wedding dresses at a Filene's Basement Bride Sale. That the show had failed to find an audience. That the story arcs of monotheists being murdered by the state and a teenager's mind being inserted into a killer robot (noted as 'icky') were just too much for the audience.

The show had some very good acting and an inventive story line. Apparently, not enough to keep it from being blown-up in mid-season.

Web sources say the studio is now working an a second prequel to "Battlestar Galactrica," to show Adama in his academy days. Who knows what the real story might be.


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1 posted on 11/17/2010 9:52:01 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

We will end up finding that young Adama was caught making out with a battle-bot.


2 posted on 11/17/2010 9:57:52 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: pabianice
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I LOVE caprica!!!!!!!!!!!

which is funny because I hated the remake of battlestar gallatica.

wow.

That just ruined my whole day.

3 posted on 11/17/2010 10:00:24 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Did they make it to earth on Gallactica? I was never able to watch as much of it as I would have.


4 posted on 11/17/2010 10:02:14 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: pabianice

FYI: Caprica is still airing in Canada and the episodes are still showing up on bittorent sites. Episodes 14 and 15 are out and episode 16 will probably drop tomorrow.


5 posted on 11/17/2010 10:02:22 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: pabianice

Maybe SyFy canceled Caprica because it has nothing to do with hunting ghosts or professional wrestling.


6 posted on 11/17/2010 10:03:45 AM PST by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: pabianice

Liked the cast (Polly Walker of Enchanted April fame is always great) but the plots were muddled but it lacks the suspense of BSF because we know what’s going to happen.


7 posted on 11/17/2010 10:04:28 AM PST by denydenydeny (Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak-Adams)
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To: pabianice

The problem with Caprica is that the plot was too often glacial, compared to BSG.


8 posted on 11/17/2010 10:05:27 AM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: pabianice

That new SyFy thing is really working out. They have two shows about knuckleheads traipsing through places looking for ghosts and other things that don’t exist, the CGI human-eating monster of the week and wrestling, but Caprica manages not to be able to find a level to remain in that august company of programming. Yeah, it’s really much better and different than when it was the Sci-Fi Channel.


9 posted on 11/17/2010 10:05:44 AM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: pabianice

Not enough sci-fi for me.

Maybe it would have fit more on the Lifetime Sy-Fy Network?


10 posted on 11/17/2010 10:06:23 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: Egon

They dropped it because the ratings sucked. And probably the DVD sales weren’t very good. Bad ratings can be forgiven if the DVD sells well, but bad ratings and bad sales will kill it quick. It’s too bad, it was a good show, but from the first frames it had no mass appeal.


11 posted on 11/17/2010 10:07:33 AM PST by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: John O

Yes. But it required plot holes big enough to drive a Cylon Resurrection Ship through.


12 posted on 11/17/2010 10:08:26 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: pabianice

Had promise but the show just got slower and slower. Took me three days to watch the season premier because I kept getting bored and going to do something else.


13 posted on 11/17/2010 10:08:39 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: denydenydeny
Polly Walker of Enchanted April fame

Not to mention Rome. Woof!!

14 posted on 11/17/2010 10:09:09 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: John O
Did they make it to earth on Gallactica?

Yes, they did, but it was about 150,000 before the beginning of human civilization.

The show ended with a strong suggestion that the one woman ("Eve") from which all humans are believed to be descended was actually the child born to the two BG pilots (one of which was a Cylon).

15 posted on 11/17/2010 10:09:33 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: pabianice

Caprica had too much of the soap opera and not enough of the typical scifi action.

SyFy had been trying to attract more female viewers, and that is reflected in the ‘syfy-exclusive’ and made-for-syfy content.


16 posted on 11/17/2010 10:09:53 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: John O

Twice, three times if you count a earlier episode segment. And then really depends on the interpretation of “Earth”.


17 posted on 11/17/2010 10:10:29 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: denydenydeny
but it lacks the suspense of BSF because we know what’s going to happen.

It takes spectacular writing and acting to keep viewers on the edge of their seats even though they know what will happen in the end. Apollo 13 pulled that off. Caprica didn't.

SciFi also did the amazingly stupid, stupid, stupid stunt of a multi-month gap in the middle of the season. That is the kiss of death for a serial program. I don't think even 24 could have survived as 12 & 12. I watched it through the first half season and have 4 or 5 episodes after they came back saved on my DVR, but I lost interest in the story in the interim. Split seasons on serial programs do not work! Networks, stop doing it. You're just wasting money and killing programs.

18 posted on 11/17/2010 10:11:35 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Dems' response to 11/2: Do not go gentle into that new day,Rage,rage against the coming of the dawn!)
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To: pabianice

I hope the next BSG spin-off does better.


19 posted on 11/17/2010 10:12:25 AM PST by LanPB01
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I LOVE caprica!!!!!!!!!!!

which is funny because I hated the remake of battlestar gallatica.”

I liked Caprica but I’m not going to watch the rest now that it’s canceled. There’s nowhere for it to go.

I actually liked the first two seasons of the new BSG - sometimes I thought it was scary good! Then there was the third season - I watched the whole season holding out hope but really disliked it and as a result I never watched season 4.


20 posted on 11/17/2010 10:12:25 AM PST by Castigar
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To: VanDeKoik
Maybe it would have fit more on the Lifetime Sy-Fy Network?

Spot on.

21 posted on 11/17/2010 10:12:30 AM PST by Stentor ( "All cults of personality begin as high drama and end as low comedy.")
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To: discostu
It’s too bad, it was a good show, but from the first frames it had no mass appeal.

Well, I for one, didn't watch it because I was just coming off of a long stint of watching BSG jumping a light-year-long shark, and had a pretty bad taste in my mouth for the entire franchise.

I suppose it could end up being one of those shows (like Firefly) that I finally watch on DVD and kick myself for not supporting while it was still on.

My comment was more a rant against SyFy than against the show, itself.

22 posted on 11/17/2010 10:12:43 AM PST by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: John O
I think so, I didn't watch much of the remake, it was to dark for the and the girl playing starbuck just ruined it for me.
23 posted on 11/17/2010 10:13:13 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: justlurking

What?! No flying motorcycles?


24 posted on 11/17/2010 10:13:24 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Egon; Bloody Sam Roberts

“Maybe SyFy canceled Caprica because it has nothing to do with hunting ghosts or professional wrestling.”

You nailed it! Ever since SciFi became SyFy, the network
slid further and further away from science fiction programming. Drives the hubby crazy!!!!!

The name should be changed to GhostHorror Channel.


25 posted on 11/17/2010 10:14:27 AM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: Dahoser
One more time ~ just over a year ago I was channel cruising through the cable offerings and found MULTIPLE wrestling shows. Most of them were Mexican wrestling.

It's the coming thing ~ a never ending supply of wrestling with costumed Mexicans.

26 posted on 11/17/2010 10:14:44 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Dahoser

And don’t forget, every Friday night SyFy runs an original movie, all of which are shot in Canada, star people who were on some tv show 10 years ago and aren’t working much lately, and feature the cheapest digital effects imaginable.


27 posted on 11/17/2010 10:14:44 AM PST by Elwood P. Doud (America, you voted for a negro socialist with an Islamic name - so why are you surprised?)
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To: Egon

There were no characters named “Snooki”.


28 posted on 11/17/2010 10:14:48 AM PST by skeeter
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To: justlurking

oh yeah, now I remember how they ended it.

I sort of liked the ending, but hated the rest.


29 posted on 11/17/2010 10:14:48 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Dahoser
One more time ~ just over a year ago I was channel cruising through the cable offerings and found MULTIPLE wrestling shows. Most of them were Mexican wrestling.

It's the coming thing ~ a never ending supply of wrestling with costumed Mexicans.

30 posted on 11/17/2010 10:14:52 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: justlurking

“The show ended with a strong suggestion that the one woman (”Eve”) from which all humans are believed to be descended was actually the child born to the two BG pilots (one of which was a Cylon).”

Remind me again who were those 2 pilots and which one was Cylon?


31 posted on 11/17/2010 10:15:24 AM PST by max americana
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To: Egon
Maybe SyFy canceled Caprica because it has nothing to do with hunting ghosts or professional wrestling.

It was the ratings. Viewership for new episodes was UNDER 1 million and closer to half-a-million.

SG-U's ratings are just slightly better, so it is in 'renewal' jeopardy.
32 posted on 11/17/2010 10:16:14 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: tbw2

At the rate it was going, the timeline for patricia helfer’s arrival stretched past 2020. Why they ditched the skin job characters is a mystery. No one wants to see emo touchy feely teenagers and their constipated parents week in and week out.


33 posted on 11/17/2010 10:17:24 AM PST by x_plus_one (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Egon
Don't think it's going to pull a Firefly because the former show moved, had brilliant writing, was funny and scary by turns and had truly wild concepts running through the show. None of that applies to Caprica which had dull characters, only one cool idea (the experiential internet, borrowed from Neal Stephenson) and no humor whatsoever. I'm good with horror but only if it is leavened with some humor (even Cloverfield had its funny moments early on). Caprica simply sat there, daring me to like it. No sale.
34 posted on 11/17/2010 10:18:30 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: max americana

As I recall, it was Boomer and Helo’s daughter, and Boomer was the cylon.


35 posted on 11/17/2010 10:20:44 AM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

Thanks for the info.


36 posted on 11/17/2010 10:26:00 AM PST by max americana
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

Caprica was the only show that I made plans to regularly watch during the week. Maybe that shows what a specialized taste I have. At any rate the show had fantastic cinematography.


37 posted on 11/17/2010 10:28:11 AM PST by glorgau
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To: max americana
Remind me again who were those 2 pilots and which one was Cylon?

I don't remember the characters' names. But, the woman was portrayed by Grace Park, who is now the rookie cop on Hawaii Five-O.

38 posted on 11/17/2010 10:29:23 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Elwood P. Doud

Spot on for every point. One thing I admired about Lost and 24, they had the balls to actually film in the US.


39 posted on 11/17/2010 10:30:04 AM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: John O

When they made it to Earth...

*Earth was populated with hunter-gatherer humans.
*Starbuck turned out to be some type of “Angel” who was secretly guiding their path all along... she just “disappeared” after saying her goodbyes.
*They decided to stay, and they remotely piloted the empty fleet into the Sun.


40 posted on 11/17/2010 10:30:18 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: pabianice

So that’s why episode 14 & 15 are on the internet sites showing as ‘unknown’ for air dates.

It was getting very slow and boring - the first episodes were great but it just dragged out after that - but watching it on the net only took 42 minutes so I stuck with it...


41 posted on 11/17/2010 10:30:59 AM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: Castigar

The first two seasons of BSG had good, even electric moments of drama.

However they ran out of plot and dialog halfway through season 2. The scriptwriters started phoning it in. Nothing much was happening on screen and the dialog was rote.

The casting was good: I’m glad to see that many previously unknown actors from BSG have gone on to do other work.


42 posted on 11/17/2010 10:36:13 AM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: pabianice

Sci-fi? Just write something that shows Summer Glau beating the heck out of bad guys. That works...


43 posted on 11/17/2010 10:36:45 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
"I LOVE caprica!!!!!!!!!!! which is funny because I hated the remake of battlestar gallatica."

Same here. I loved the alternate look at religion. (The Norm being a multi-deity ethos and the "Radical Religion" being monotheism.) And know that I am a believer in God and don't find a fictional story any threat to my beliefs.

Also I loved the take on "virtual reality" and how it figured into the rise of the "Cylons"...

Its sad that well written story with some very good actors didn't catch on but I've come to expect such. (Though I figured Caprica would get enough backing from those who loved the BG remake to see a few seasons at least. But I knew it wouldn't last much past that.)

I thought the "Zoe" Character and her Dad and Mom as well as the Adamas were excellent! I could have done without the Gay Brother Adama aspect (Not the character just that part of the personality) because now it seems cliche to have such in every damn show on TV. But it didn't annoy me the way "Glee" does with the "hit-you-over-the-head-with-Gayness-every-damn-episode" the producers have taken the show this year.

The show cancellation that really saddens me is "Rubicon" But, I knew almost from the first episode it was doomed. The script writers didn't rely on "bang-bang-shoot-em-up-naked-sex-and-foul-language" every episode and the characters were interesting yet weren't over the top in any way. They seemed like real people dealing with real situations and the slow build of tension was refreshing.

Oh well at least "The Walking Dead" got renewed for 13 episodes and looks to be one fine piece of writing and acting!

44 posted on 11/17/2010 10:36:57 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: pabianice

I liked BSG and hated Caprica. BSG had *some of what lovers of the genre would refer to as “hard” science, and lots of action, while Caprica was a soap opera with magic.

*Sure, BSG also had lots of “and then a miracle happens,” but it was still SCIENCE fiction and SPACE travel, which go together like Burns and Allen, or Chocolate and Peanut Butter.


45 posted on 11/17/2010 10:38:03 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: KevinDavis

Sci-Fi PING


46 posted on 11/17/2010 10:38:50 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Egon
I suppose it could end up being one of those shows (like Firefly) that I finally watch on DVD

Now you've done it. You mentioned Firefly and I have to spend time looking up Chinese curse words for the idiots at Fox.

This week on Castle Nathan Fillion's character rattled off a Chinese sentence. The detective with him asked him if he knew it because he studied abroad for a semester and he said "Nah, TV show I used to love."

47 posted on 11/17/2010 10:42:27 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Dems' response to 11/2: Do not go gentle into that new day,Rage,rage against the coming of the dawn!)
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To: justlurking
Rules...amigo...rules....

48 posted on 11/17/2010 10:44:16 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: SeeSharp; denydenydeny

49 posted on 11/17/2010 10:50:02 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: pabianice

Galactrica?


50 posted on 11/17/2010 10:50:43 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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