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Democrats Press GOP Lawmakers to Turn Down Government Zot Care
CBS News ^ | 17 November 2010 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 11/17/2010 7:53:40 PM PST by cheneyschernobyl

A group of House Democrats has released a letter to Republican congressional leaders calling on them to announce which of their members will be forgoing their congressional benefit health insurance (which is subsidized by the government) in light of their party's opposition to health care reform overhaul legislation.

"If your conference wants to deny millions of Americans affordable health care, your members should walk that walk," four Democrats write in the letter, which is addressed to Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell and House Republican leader John Boehner. "You cannot enroll in the very kind of coverage that you want for yourselves, and then turn around and deny it to Americans who don't happen to be Members of Congress."

According to the letter, the federal government pays more than $10,000 of the premiums of each member of Congress who has a family policy under the most selected plan.

The signatories on the letter are four liberal lawmakers: Joseph Crowley of New York, Linda T. Sanchez of California, Donna Edwards of Maryland and Tim Ryan of Ohio. They sent a separate letter to other Democratic colleagues asking them to sign onto the effort.

The Democrats say they were spurred to press Republicans to announce their position by news that Andy Harris, a conservative incoming Republican House freshman, had complained that he would not receive his government-subsidized health care coverage until Feb. 1, a month after he is sworn into office.

Harris campaigned against the health care bill, which is projected to provide coverage to more than 30 million previously uninsured Americans, and his party is vowing to "repeal and replace" it.

In their letter, the Democrats write they were "surprised" to see Harris complain that "there is a delay before benefits take effect. Ironically, this is the same predicament millions of Americans currently find themselves in."

"We also find it interesting that members of the Republican conference would have no problem taking away health coverage from hard-working Americans, but expect expanded coverage for themselves and their families," they add, writing that the health care reform bill gives Americans the option of selecting a plan in a manner similar to members of Congress.


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1 posted on 11/17/2010 7:53:45 PM PST by cheneyschernobyl
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To: y'all

GOP, call the bluff!


2 posted on 11/17/2010 7:56:06 PM PST by Cyber Ninja (Live and Let Live; is not working...)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

If Obamacare is identical to the health care plan that Congress has, then I would agree. But, it’s not. So let’s see the Dems live on Obamacare before they start throwing stones at Republicans.


3 posted on 11/17/2010 7:56:57 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

The Senate and House health plans have been around for decades....so this argument is comical.


4 posted on 11/17/2010 7:57:06 PM PST by pepsionice
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IF the GOP can’t knock this one out of the park, they’re asleep...


5 posted on 11/17/2010 7:57:06 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Cyber Ninja
And raise the unions!

To Medicare!

6 posted on 11/17/2010 7:58:05 PM PST by Cyber Ninja (Live and Let Live; is not working...)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

Welcome to FR cheneyschernobyl. Love your name. It smells like ZOT.

So you signed up today to post this? How charming.

What do YOU think about your post?


7 posted on 11/17/2010 7:58:09 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

Just ask for the same health care insurance the typical federal civil servant has. Congresscritters are, though I’m sure they would like to forget it, no more than federal civil service.


8 posted on 11/17/2010 7:59:19 PM PST by Felis_irritable
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To: cheneyschernobyl

What a bunch of disingenuous no nothing punks. To make equivalency between their privately administered health plans and the disaster of ObamaCare is simply Orwellian.


9 posted on 11/17/2010 7:59:42 PM PST by Track9 (Let Freedom Ring!!)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

It is actually employee provided insurance, Dumb Dems.


10 posted on 11/17/2010 8:00:58 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: cheneyschernobyl
OK Rats...You first...


11 posted on 11/17/2010 8:01:53 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

You should have searched first, this is already posted.


12 posted on 11/17/2010 8:03:34 PM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: cheneyschernobyl
What do YOU think about your post?

Lets here it.

13 posted on 11/17/2010 8:03:54 PM PST by Track9 (Let Freedom Ring!!)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

Dumbass publicity stunt.

I would remind these idiots that one of their own RATS, defeated Steve Kagan, has made a big deal of not accepting govt health insurance on grounds that he should not have it until everyone does. What he doesnt tell you is that he can get care anytime he needs it from the Capitol Hill physicians office, so he really isnt going without.


14 posted on 11/17/2010 8:04:30 PM PST by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

The GOP needs to make the case that it’s one of the benefits of the job. If they did nothing and just had health insurance handed to them for “free,” they’d be Democrats.


15 posted on 11/17/2010 8:04:30 PM PST by scott7278 ( "...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: Track9
What a bunch of disingenuous no nothing punks. To make equivalency between their privately administered health plans and the disaster of ObamaCare is simply Orwellian.

I guess they're aiming this at the most stupid segment of the population. Only problem is, that demographic is already voting for them.

16 posted on 11/17/2010 8:04:57 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

Nice try but, it won’t work. These health care plans they are talking about have been around for years/decades and don’t look anything like obamacare. The dems need to quit playing games.


17 posted on 11/17/2010 8:07:27 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

Democrat congressmen should do the exact same thing, if Obamacare is so great.


18 posted on 11/17/2010 8:10:04 PM PST by dr_who
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To: cheneyschernobyl

Defund existing congressional healthcare.


19 posted on 11/17/2010 8:10:57 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: Felis_irritable
Just ask for the same health care insurance the typical federal civil servant has. Congresscritters are, though I’m sure they would like to forget it, no more than federal civil service.

That's it, exactly. Congressmen and Senators are public employees, and their health insurance is therefore employment-based. Far different than the type of universal coverage, socialized medicine that the Democrats are agitating for.
20 posted on 11/17/2010 8:11:38 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: cheneyschernobyl

Apples and broccoli comparison. Congressional
“healthcare” is different (by design) from that provided by the government for us peasants.

The disingenuous Dems know this!!


21 posted on 11/17/2010 8:13:04 PM PST by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: MindBender26

Ping to MindBender26

IIRC last year sometime you did an exclusive here at FR about the Congressional Healthcare plan.

Wondering if you could enlighten us on the differences between the Congressional Healthcare plan, and Obamacare?

It’s my understanding that the Congressional healthcare plan is way better than anything us peons can acquire, and thus the reason the Congressional elite never consider what they force upon us for themselves.


22 posted on 11/17/2010 8:14:54 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Steely Tom
Dimocrat IQ: 80-90, Dullness. 70-80, Borderline deficiency. Below 70, Definite feeble-mindedness

Sitting home smelling their own farts.

23 posted on 11/17/2010 8:15:52 PM PST by Track9 (Let Freedom Ring!!)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

Oh that’s just brilliant. The republicans should send their own letter to the democrats ASKING them why they singlehandedlly VOTED to FORCE an unwanted health care plan on the AMERICAN people with NO PROVISION in said plan to put themselves under the same rules. Oh yeah....ask THEM why they VOTED it in in the first place. Why would they do something SO GROSSLY UNFAIR!


24 posted on 11/17/2010 8:16:13 PM PST by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Bryanw92

That’s what the GOP should reply with. They’ll forego their govt subsidized health plan when the dims vow to enroll in the same health plan they have ‘devised’ for the rest of us.


25 posted on 11/17/2010 8:18:40 PM PST by Let's Roll (Stop ACORN destroying America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: Bryanw92

lame attempt by the rats...


26 posted on 11/17/2010 8:21:38 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: cheneyschernobyl
So what are you saying ZOT Boy? They should go without health insurance unless EVERYONE has national health care? How about we do the same thing to all 2 million federal employees ? They also get subsidized health care from the government,did you know that, numbnutz?.

Even by the standards of Dim Democraps .. this is weak.

27 posted on 11/17/2010 8:24:47 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: cheneyschernobyl

Hey Troll... we’re still waiting for your reply. What do YOU think of your post? or have you run back to your Soros funded blog sites for another dose of Fascist kool-aid.


28 posted on 11/17/2010 8:26:08 PM PST by Track9 (Let Freedom Ring!!)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

It’s easy to spot a n00b/troll by the crap they post as their first “effort”.


29 posted on 11/17/2010 8:27:19 PM PST by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

IBTZ

I smell ozone . . .


30 posted on 11/17/2010 8:28:57 PM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: cheneyschernobyl
which is subsidized by the government

That wasn't in the press release, or a quote from a democrat. That was actually a line inserted by the "reporter" for CBS news. Once again demonstrating their liberal bias, to the point of lying.

When you are employed, and part of your compensation is a health care plan, it is not a "subsidy", it is a "perk".

So, unless the democrats want to give up their salaries "which are subsidized by the government", I think they can shut up.

Of course, nobody ever asks the democrats why they don't voluntarily pay higher taxes if they think taxes should be raised.

31 posted on 11/17/2010 8:31:28 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: cheneyschernobyl
Post an intelligent reply or go back to your little troll hole at DU; you bring down the collective IQ of everyone here!


32 posted on 11/17/2010 8:31:35 PM PST by PROCON
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To: cheneyschernobyl; Auntie Mame; Darksheare; All
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33 posted on 11/17/2010 8:32:26 PM PST by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: cheneyschernobyl; darkwing104; 50mm
30 million illegals aren't Americans!

Zot

34 posted on 11/17/2010 8:33:23 PM PST by vigilante2 (Reelect Nobody)
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To: cheneyschernobyl

Come on numbnuts. Let’s have a reply. Plenty of Freepers have pointed out the utter idiocy of this letter and the twits who wrote it. Let’s “hear” your defense.


35 posted on 11/17/2010 8:41:03 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ( I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra)
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To: cheneyschernobyl




36 posted on 11/17/2010 8:45:36 PM PST by 50mm (I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: Admin Moderator; darkwing104; cheneyschernobyl
I believe this may be our n00b over at the DUmp:

Hold Your Nose Before Entering

37 posted on 11/17/2010 8:52:32 PM PST by 50mm (I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: cheneyschernobyl
Congressional Health Care Plan = VOLUNTARY.

Obama Death Panel Care = INVOLUNTARY.

End of argument.

38 posted on 11/17/2010 8:55:42 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now...)
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To: Auntie Mame

House Democrats has released a letter to Republican congressional leaders calling on them to announce which of their members will be forgoing their congressional benefit health insurance

something the Democrats refused to do, and Obama refused to do....


39 posted on 11/17/2010 8:56:53 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Auntie Mame

House Democrats has released a letter to Republican congressional leaders calling on them to announce which of their members will be forgoing their congressional benefit health insurance

something the Democrats refused to do, and Obama refused to do....

the republicans should ask where they can get the Obama wavers that the SEIU unions got!!!!!


40 posted on 11/17/2010 8:58:02 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Bryanw92

Will the GOP let the Dems take the offense on this issue?


41 posted on 11/17/2010 9:01:03 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: 50mm

Wow, I haven’t been to DU in years. What eloquence, what wit, what intelligence..... what hate.

That site has really gone downhill and I thought it was at the bottom of the barrel five years ago!


42 posted on 11/17/2010 9:04:08 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: cheneyschernobyl; darkwing104; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; 50mm; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; ...
DUmmy cheneyschernobyl got the ZOT! See post 37.

To be added or removed from the VK list, FReepmail Darkwing104.

43 posted on 11/17/2010 9:06:45 PM PST by 50mm (I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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ROFLOL, nice headline edit!


44 posted on 11/17/2010 9:08:50 PM PST by PROCON (Liberal: Proof you can fool some of the people ALL of the time.)
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To: 50mm
I confess to be amazed at the frequent trolls showing up here. Never would have known the magnitude without your ping list..........

My thanks again...........

45 posted on 11/17/2010 9:14:43 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: cheneyschernobyl

Great idea! The first act of the new House should be to remove government healthcare for all congressmen. New members won’t miss what they have never had.


46 posted on 11/17/2010 10:02:52 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Party is shovel ready)
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To: rockinqsranch

Your memory serves you well:

Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 11:21:23 AM by MindBender26

(Talking about an Obama claim about Obamacare providing exact level of treatment Senators and Congressmembers now get)

The exact quote from the Obama press release is: “It sets up a new competitive health insurance market giving tens of millions of Americans the exact same insurance choices that members of Congress will have.”

This is complete and ongoing BS. Congress and their staffers and friends don’t just get Cadillac care; they get Rolls Royce care... care no American will ever see.

How good is the medical care for Senators and Congressmembers? There is a physician or nurse practitioner on duty in EVERY Senate and House office building all day/every day. Not just one for the Senators and one for House Members; there is a doctor or nurse practitioner on duty in EACH of the three Senate office buildings and one in each of the three House office buildings! There is even one on duty in the Capitol building itself.

That means no Member or Senator is ever more than a 250 foot walk away from a Doctor or Nurse Practitioner who will see them immediately, with no waiting as soon as they walk in the door!

It is called the “Office of the Attending Physician of the United States Congress.” All Members pay for instant health care and all their drugs is $503.

No, not $503 per month. $503 per YEAR!

No claim forms, no paperwork, just one $503 per year fee, unchanged since 1992, for everything they could ever want. When I was working there as a reporter, if I needed anything, a Congressional staffer would make one quick phone call, and I could just walk in and instantly get anything I wanted, no waiting.

$503 a year for absolutly everything, including drugs!

We’ll get same as Congress??? It’s all a big Obamalie!



47 posted on 11/17/2010 10:13:10 PM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: 50mm
My gosh, they're really crawling out of the woodwork lately.
48 posted on 11/17/2010 10:36:05 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: A Satanically Transmitted Disease spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus)
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49 posted on 11/17/2010 10:40:57 PM PST by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: MindBender26

Thank You. If you have no reservations on my using your post occasionally to make a point on this matter, I will, and of course with appropriate credit.


50 posted on 11/18/2010 3:41:37 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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