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Dozer Driver Makes Fossil Discovery of the Century
FoxNews ^ | November 20, 2010 | Loren Grush

Posted on 11/23/2010 9:21:20 AM PST by Squidpup

An accidental discovery by a bulldozer driver has led to what may be the find of the century: an ice-age burial ground that could rival the famed La Brea tar pits.

After two weeks of excavating ancient fossils at the Ziegler Reservoir near Snowmass Village, Colorado, scientists from the Denver Museum of Natural Science returned home Wednesday with their unearthed treasures in tow -- a wide array of fossils, insects and plant life that they say give a stunningly realistic view of what life was like when ancient, giant beasts lumbered across the Earth.

Since the team’s arrival in mid-October, scientists have extracted nearly 600 bones from about 20 different animals from the Pleistocene era, a period of time during the Ice Age. The remains of up to six different species have been exhumed, including five American mastodons, three Ice Age bison, a Jefferson’s ground sloth, a mule deer, a tiger salamander, and two Columbian mammoths.

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The site rivals many others in terms of its diversity, as it is the only known place in Colorado -- and one of few in North America -- that contains both mammoth and mastodon fossils in the same location. And just finding an American mastodon is pretty unusual in itself.

"There are only three known records of mastodons in Colorado, and we have found at least five specimens," Miller said. "So throughout the course of 120 years of paleontology, we jumped from three mastodons to eight in a single two-week period."

And the significance of the Snowmass Excavation doesn’t stop there. Snowmass has also produced an array of insect and plant life, as well as wood that has been chewed by beavers, essentially producing what Miller calls a "window into an Ice Age ecosystem."

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Science
KEYWORDS: archeology; bison; catastrophism; fossil; godsgravesglyphs; mammoths; mastodon; mastodons; snowmass
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1 posted on 11/23/2010 9:21:26 AM PST by Squidpup
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To: Squidpup; SunkenCiv

interesting


2 posted on 11/23/2010 9:25:12 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Squidpup
I just can't imagine why they would find this mix of animals all in one location.


3 posted on 11/23/2010 9:28:36 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: GeronL

Very interesting for me, my cousins donated this land.


4 posted on 11/23/2010 9:31:06 AM PST by irish guard
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To: Squidpup

Cool stuff.

The mastodons they found in Russia in ice several years back had enough tissue left they were talking about doing some sort of Jurrasic Park creation with a modern day elephant...or something to that affect.
Anyone know more information regarding this? They seemed very serious about it at the time but sure how viable it is.


5 posted on 11/23/2010 9:31:43 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew)
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To: Squidpup

Helen Thomas’ birthplace?


6 posted on 11/23/2010 9:31:53 AM PST by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: Squidpup

Neato to be the one finding something like this.


7 posted on 11/23/2010 9:33:05 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Don't make me go ALL CAPS on you.)
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To: irish guard

so... what was the difference between a Mammoth and a Mastodon again??


8 posted on 11/23/2010 9:33:20 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: dfwgator

Well, that construction project is now in permanent limbo.


9 posted on 11/23/2010 9:37:24 AM PST by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: The Shrew
...After two weeks of excavating ancient fossils at the Ziegler Reservoir near Snowmass Village, Colorado...

Quick, check the old family homestead papers!

10 posted on 11/23/2010 9:38:44 AM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: GeronL
Mastodons were smaller and not covered with hair.

Woolly Mammoth = hair and bigger.

Mastodon = no hair and not as mammoth. ;)

11 posted on 11/23/2010 9:42:55 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: GeronL
so... what was the difference between a Mammoth and a Mastodon again??

Wiki sez: Mastodons or Mastodonts (meaning "nipple-teeth") are members of the extinct genus Mammut of the order Proboscidea and form the family Mammutidae; they resembled, but were distinct from, the woolly mammoth which belongs to the family Elephantidae. Mastodons were browsers and mammoths were grazers.

Mammoth.

Mastodon.

12 posted on 11/23/2010 9:43:42 AM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Revolting cat!
The site rivals many others in terms of its diversity, as it is the only known place in Colorado -- and one of few in North America -- that contains both mammoth and mastodon fossils in the same location. And just finding an American mastodon is pretty unusual in itself. "There are only three known records of mastodons in Colorado, and we have found at least five specimens," Miller said. "So throughout the course of 120 years of paleontology, we jumped from three mastodons to eight in a single two-week period."

Can the mastadons open a casino yet?

13 posted on 11/23/2010 9:45:44 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Interesting Times

That kind of sounds like a joke. Thanks Wiki.


14 posted on 11/23/2010 9:46:01 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: allmendream

lol


15 posted on 11/23/2010 9:46:39 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Interesting Times
Mastodons were browsers and mammoths were grazers.

I'm half browser on my mother's side...

16 posted on 11/23/2010 9:48:33 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: IYAS9YAS

I switched from grazer to browser back in the Mosaic days.


17 posted on 11/23/2010 9:52:20 AM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Interesting Times

Make that “... in the Mosaic Era.”


18 posted on 11/23/2010 9:53:15 AM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Squidpup

A possible reason. A glacial lake might have substantial glacial silt surrounding it, and that kind of silt can be deadly dangerous to walk on.

The most dangerous kind of glacial silt is in a tidewater area, as it seems solid to walk on, but when the tide comes in, it comes in underneath you. Suddenly the ground turns to sandy chocolate pudding and you drop down several feet. You are held there with incredible suction as the water continues to come in, and you drown. There is a lot of it around Anchorage, Alaska, and they have to give out warnings at frequent intervals not to walk on the silt.

But in this case, with no tide, it could be like sand bars, some of which are solid, and some are not. And you only have to hit a bad one once. It is unlikely that even a mastodon could escape from that.

It would be very deceptive, because birds and light animals might be able to cross over it easily.


19 posted on 11/23/2010 9:58:27 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: hoyt-clagwell
Anyone know more information regarding this?

From Earth in Upheaval by Immanual Velikovsky:

In 1797 the body of a mammoth, with flesh skin, and hair was found in northeastern Siberia, and since then bodies of other mammoths have been unearthed from the frozen ground in various parts of that region. The flesh had the appearance of freshly frozen beef; it was edible, and the wolves and sledge dogs fed on it without harm. [footnote references an observation of D.F.Hertz in B Digby: The Mammoth (1926), p.9.]
Really what is more interesting is the inference Velikovsky makes from this which is that the mammoths must have been entombed and frozen almost instantly, else they would have rotted. Full text is available at Amazon. (This link takes you to page 19 where the extract I presented appears at the bottom of the page.)

ML/NJ

20 posted on 11/23/2010 9:59:51 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Interesting Times

Meh. I switched from browser to wolf back in the masonic days. ;-)


21 posted on 11/23/2010 10:07:33 AM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: Squidpup

I thought dozers were operated not driven...


22 posted on 11/23/2010 10:10:43 AM PST by TSgt (On 11/08/2010 at 0421 my life changed forever. I became a father.)
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To: GeronL; SunkenCiv
don't forget the troglodytes!
23 posted on 11/23/2010 10:17:03 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Yehuda

lol


24 posted on 11/23/2010 10:19:04 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Squidpup

I run into all sorts of old stuff when I’m dozing. Also when I have my beer goggles on.


25 posted on 11/23/2010 10:22:57 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: hoyt-clagwell

I remember hearing that too.

Seems it would be even more feasible today.

And what could possibly go wrong?

Would be cool though, to recreate an extinct species, even if it was only a close copy.

Maybe they’ll come across a frozen female with some intact eggs one of these days and can fertilize and implant into an elephant as a surrogate to get the ball rolling.


26 posted on 11/23/2010 10:24:39 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: GeronL; SunkenCiv
don't forget the troglodytes!
27 posted on 11/23/2010 10:27:51 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: hoyt-clagwell

Japs are working on it.


28 posted on 11/23/2010 10:30:59 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Obama. He's Ray Nagin in National Office)
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To: Yehuda

lol. didn’t you also post that 10 minutes ago?


29 posted on 11/23/2010 10:32:31 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Squidpup

I don’t care how damn old they are. The lift ticket is the same damn price and that’s final.


30 posted on 11/23/2010 10:36:07 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Obama. He's Ray Nagin in National Office)
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To: Squidpup
a Jefferson’s ground sloth,

So not only did Jefferson own and oppress black slaves to his eternal disgrace, he was OWNING AND OPPRESSING GROUND SLOTHS AS WELL! That bastard! How can we honor someone who owned and oppressed ground sloths?

31 posted on 11/23/2010 10:59:04 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: GeronL

“Find of the Century: Dozer driver discovers Biden’s ossified brain.”


32 posted on 11/23/2010 11:02:42 AM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: GeronL

Hey man, when you’re dealing with thousands of years, you forget stuff! ( : >)


33 posted on 11/23/2010 11:27:07 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Yehuda

lol.


34 posted on 11/23/2010 11:32:42 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Snowmass Village is west of the Continental Divide, so this was not part of the US in Jefferson's lifetime. Jefferson's ground sloth knew it had to get beyond the borders of the US to be free.

An untold dark chapter of Jefferson's stroy--his oppression of ground sloths. Of course what may have caused the little guy to flee to Colorado was hearing preachers preach against sloth.

35 posted on 11/23/2010 11:57:43 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: ml/nj

Cool. Reminds me of that old NOrthern Exposure episode where someone fnds a frozen mammoth and the townsfolk eat it before scientists can come to study it. Mammoth burger- yum!


36 posted on 11/23/2010 2:47:16 PM PST by Little Pharma
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To: Squidpup

IBTHTP.


37 posted on 11/23/2010 2:52:35 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: All
flinstones ribs Pictures, Images and Photos
38 posted on 11/23/2010 3:01:03 PM PST by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Yehuda; GeronL

...so that ev-va-ree mouth can be fed, oh, the troglodytes...


39 posted on 11/23/2010 7:12:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


40 posted on 11/23/2010 7:16:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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41 posted on 11/23/2010 7:16:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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42 posted on 11/23/2010 7:16:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Squidpup

Great thread! Haven’t chuckled this much in a while.


43 posted on 11/23/2010 7:36:12 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: SunkenCiv

From left, Joe Enzer of the Snowmass Water and Sanitation District and Kent Olson and Jesse Steele of Gould Construction hold two of the large tusks unearthed Wednesday from the Ziegler Reservoir excavation project near Snowmass Village. (Photo from Gould Construction Inc.)

44 posted on 11/23/2010 7:42:53 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Squidpup

Well, after reading the whole article then running off to track down several other articles re this find, no one has asked the obvious question yet about how this much sediment, silt and clay washed into this little bowl in the ground fast enough to cover these critters. A glacial lake maybe broke through an ice dam sending a deluge along with the critters into the bowl? Just seems odd that “grazers” would be tooling around at 9,000 feet. But whadda I know???


45 posted on 11/23/2010 9:00:33 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: Squidpup

What a phenomenal story! Thank you so much!

With the right sort of development and guidance by the University and the State out there, this could turn into an educational goldmine for the State. Imagine the tourists that will fly out there with their kids to show them the mastodon and other Pleistocene relics in situ - all of them together in the same site.

What an amazing find.


46 posted on 11/23/2010 10:01:38 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Fred Nerks

I know why they are smiling. Job security. Their one-year project just turned into a six-year endeavour. (Unless of course the owners just decide to stop the project, and spend the next 10 years trying to find and permit another site.


47 posted on 11/23/2010 10:20:38 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
"I'm half browser on my mother's side..."

Well, I was going to claim some kinship myself until I noticed it said grazers, we're from the gazer side of the family. So....

48 posted on 11/23/2010 10:24:11 PM PST by blam
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To: UCANSEE2; SunkenCiv; All

A lot can accumulate in 25,000 years. Read the full article.


49 posted on 11/23/2010 11:59:12 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Yehuda
Dozer Driver Makes Fossil Discovery of the Century

Petrified pancakes?

50 posted on 11/24/2010 12:07:37 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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