Skip to comments."Fair Game", Plame movie, a bomb.
Posted on 11/26/2010 1:27:31 PM PST by Lazlo in PA
A movie that cost 22 million to produce has grossed a 9.3 million world wide after 4 weeks in theater.
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Even Libs aren't going out to see it.
It’s on the arthouse circuit. 8 million with less than 400 theaters is pretty good. It’ll probably turn a profit, arthouse movies are different, they don’t rely on the big opener, they rely on the long burn while slowly moving around the country, it probably won’t even hit places like Tucson until March.
LOL...awwww to bad for Sean Penhead.
LOL. Another liberal failure.
I saw a trailer for this movie before I saw the film “RED”. The trailer even stunk, and I knew the movie was pure BS just like the actual MSM spin on that non-story(she was not an unknown covert super secret spy, everyone knew her and what her job was).
“RED” is a fun movie, BTW.
Everytime I hear that Valerie Plame had her “cover broken” I want to gag. She wasn’t undercover in any way, shape or form. I’m glad this leftist propaganda piece clunked at the box office.
Does that still hold true? Or will they rely on DVD sales and liberal cable giants such as HBO plugging it constantly?
This is not a movie in the conventional sense (entertainment). This is a left wing propoganda hit-piece.
This was never about the movie. This was about paying off Plame and her husband for making trouble for GW Bush. The book, the movie deal (a nice piece of change for the Plame-Wilsons for basically no work), the various options leading up to the movie deal, etc. Being a liberal “victim” is a very lucrative avocation for certain people.
The powers that be knew the movie would flop. They don’t care. Mission accomplished.
I keep picturing her on the cover of Vanity Fair and thinking “How perfect.”
LOL! Eff Hollywood, Eff TV (all of TV) and Eff Sean Penn.
Wife, mother, spy. Paper pusher at the CIA getting side gigs for her idiot husband. These people are loathsome parasites on the backs of taxpayers.
Exactly. McCain’s daughter getting a book deal is another payoff.
The CIA has a lot of idiots. The spy who got busted (Aldrich Ames?) had a Jag and so did the Palmes. They acted like it was something special.
DVD and HBO for arthouse is basically zero. Just compare this chart to the Girl Who charts (Girl w/ Dragon Tattoo, Girl Who Played with Fire, Girl who Kicked the Hornets Nest), that series is one of the most successful in the arthouse history and they didn’t pull anywhere near what this movies done early in the run.
It’s important to understand there’s a couple different “versions” of the movie industry. Movies like this aren’t looking for money the same way a Harry Potter movie does, they aren’t going to open in 3000 theaters around the country playing in 6 2000 seat arenas in each location, they aren’t going to have 100 million dollar weekends. They at most make a couple hundred copies that meander their way around the country playing in theaters with 2 or 3 screen where the “big” room has 500 seats. It’s a very different revenue concept, none of that big launch, none of that 80/20 split on the first weekend, probably more than 4 months before the DVD comes out. 4 million domestic dollar in 3 weeks on the art circuit is a killing.
Good. The previews were so blatantly political and laced with non-truths I couldn’t help shouting “YOU LIE!” at the screen.
Fortunately it was dark in the theater so I didn’t get tossed out.
Did the movie address the fact that every time her case went to court, it lost? Probably not.
I didn’t see the movie, thank goodness, just the previews.
But I’m sure it was about as historically accurate as Finding Nemo.
I guess the left decided they needed to pay off somebody later in the game. With most libgods of the moment they show up, get plenty of press, then fade away.
This isn’t really an ARTHOUSE arthouse movie though. This is more like just a small release independent movie. For that, it’s doing well. But this isn’t a Jim Jarmusch movie with a bunch of no-names that won’t see a lot of play on HBO or a push for DVD sales. It’s got a name cast and in spite of its inherent lies, it’s got a high-concept storyline. I’d expect it to do a good bit of DVD business (what little is left these days) and get a bunch of play on the crap pay channels.
I still wouldn't throw her out of bed (which is probably how she got the CIA job in the first place, thanks to Mr. Wilson).
It doesn't have to bomb, in the long run.(see post #3) These people have been doing this for a long time and know how to profit handsomely from their work. Don't be too surprised when this dreck someday appears as course material in the syllabus of a social studies class at a high school near you.
They do not really win unless they protect their dough, and collect some of ours as well. Any propaganda points are gravy, in my unworthy opinion. Ceement ponds and fancy eatin' tables cost money.
Small release indie and arthouse financially are the same thing. It’s got a name cast, but it’s not going to the big theaters. If you hang out at the arthouses enough you’ll see big name people in a lot of little movies that never get near the big theaters, they do those movies to convince themselves they’re not just in it for the money.
True, but I would disagree about the DVD and HBO is all. Movies like that often see substantial business there.
I suppose within their own financial strata they do pretty solid in that realm. Like the rest of their revenue stream it’s all relative.
“8 million with less than 400 theaters is pretty good.”
No, it isn’t. It’s true that art houses don’t rely on a big opening weekend, but they do rely on a steady build — and this movie isn’t building.
It needs to make fifty-four million to go into profit. They might eke it out eventually on Pay Per View, cable, and DVD... but it will be several years.
...Let me add, this movie is a flop. There is no calculus whereby it is a financial success.
Now, in terms of propaganda... that you can even get this sort of thing MADE... that so many people are willing to lose so much money for a purpose other than making money (obviously)... well, that’s a different discussion.
I think you need to look closer at the charts especially the daily, so far it looks like it’s building pretty solid. Each weekend in more theaters and making more money. We’ll know more Sunday when this weekend’s numbers are in, but even for the early parts (Wednesday and yesterday) it’s added more theaters AND the revenue per theater is up.
True. I’m just a fan of truth, even when it’s less than convenient for my politics, and the truth is within the scale of the type of movie it is and the type of release those movies get it’s actually doing VERY well. It’s not going to change the world of course, it’s just a movie, and just a movie that will at most be seen by 2 or 3 million people. But it ain’t a bomb.
Precisely why it will get an Academy Award nomination.
“Fair Game” made $217,000 on Thanksgiving. Say it holds up like that all weekend — that’s still less than $900,000 over the biggest movie-going four-day weekend till Christmas.
It cost $22 million to produce. Using the standard Hollywood matrix of one and a half times the budget back to earn a profit, it must hit $54 million to ever get in the black.
If 3 or even 4 million people see this movie around the world at ten bucks per, it still does not earn its money back. That is the definition of a bomb.
How do you see it ever earning out?
Every time I see the trailer I just laugh. I can’t believe they tried to “sexy” it up like it was some life and death thriller of a story.
Honestly, the hubris and BS from the left is mind numbing.
Of course it did. It’s Bull Sh..!
Glad to hear you say that. I was thinking of seeing it tomorrow.
I meant flop in the technical sense - i.e., can be written off against studio overhead. Of course, as a production chief once explained to me, all movies make money. Just some make more than others, some make less. Creative accounting assures that most show up as a loss, so phony profit participants of various kinds get stiffed. All I meant was that the original point of this exercise for the liberal development execs who got the ball rolling was to pay off the Plames. I know this for a fact, actually. It happens all the time.
What? PennLaden ain’t packing ‘em in? Maybe he should load some of his fans on that boat he sunk during in New Orleans during the Katrina aftermath and sail off into the sunset....and...
Fade to black.
You’re failing to understand the difference in how arthouse movies work. This movie isn’t in a real national release, it’s only in 396 theaters. So it’s not necessarily going to peak this weekend. This isn’t like a big release, those need to hit hard and fast because their theater and screen counts just dwindle, every week out is less and less money. Arthouse movies meander around the country for months. Like I said earlier, this movie probably won’t even get to Tucson (where I live) until March, for us it’ll be new then.
Completely ignore the “standard Hollywood matrix”, this isn’t a Hollywood movie. Arthouse movies don’t slice up the revenues with the theater the same, they don’t spend as much on advertising, none of the math is the same. The math that counts is that this is the #1 revenue arthouse movie two weeks in a row, and looks like it’s going to hold the title for a third weekend. The fact that this arthouse movie actually managed to crack the top 10 is impressive.
Also remember that’s 3 to 4 million people in this country, and so far it’s doing matching revenue abroad. So if it pulls off $40 million in revenue here and continues its pattern that’ll be a total of $80 million. Even if the “standard Hollywood matrix” applied that would be +36 million dollars, not a bomb by any definition.
“REDs” was a great movie. I am sure you’ll like it.
John Malkovitch did a superb job in his role.
I saw Sean Penn bailing out his skiff at the time it happened. Even though I was very distressed about what was happening in New Orleans, I remember laughing my butt off over attention hog Penn’s troubles.
It’s another big lefty flop the only avenue left to make a dime is for all the lefty Pubic Librarians to buy a couple of copies.
Were you in the same theater as I was? Saw it, thought it stunk, loved RED.
Dollars to doughnuts it will still be nominated for Best Picture.
If you read my 2 posts again, you will see I was giving “REDs” a favorable review, and I did not and never will see the Plame movie.
We agree that “REDs” was a good movie.
My husband liked it, and I liked it, although I would have liked more explosions and gunfire.
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