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Steven Hayes Sentenced to Death in CT (Judge: "May God have mercy on your soul")
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Posted on 12/02/2010 8:44:37 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

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1 posted on 12/02/2010 8:44:38 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

I need to try to be a better Christian, because I find it hard to wish for any mercy for this man.


2 posted on 12/02/2010 8:46:12 AM PST by cvq3842 (I don't waste my vote on third party candidates, like RINO Republicans.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
May God have mercy on your soul.

Kinda cliche' isn't it?

3 posted on 12/02/2010 8:46:51 AM PST by Skeez (O)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Nonsense. He was sentenced to a free cot with free food where he will get to rape CT’s families for millions of dollars in appeals.

Evil ALWAYS wins.


4 posted on 12/02/2010 8:47:42 AM PST by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: Red in Blue PA
If there truly was justice in America, they'd then walk this guy - who is guilty beyond ANY doubt, to say nothing of reasonable doubt - out to the Courthouse gallows, put a black bag over his head, and pull the lever.

The only bad thing about his conviction is that the state had to make a deal with his co-conspirator who, IMHO, is just as culpable as he was. They both should be dead. But, I don't have any doubt that neither will be dead in 20-years (save of course for prison-yard justice, which is a possibility).

5 posted on 12/02/2010 8:48:00 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: cvq3842

I want him tortured first.


6 posted on 12/02/2010 8:49:57 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: cvq3842

Point #1) Hope the EXPEDITE the appeals process so the father need not suffer any more than he has to.

Point #2) I would love to see his punishment be the same as he meted out on those poor girls.


7 posted on 12/02/2010 8:50:20 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

Liberals will want him fired, and try to get the case nullified because he said God.


8 posted on 12/02/2010 8:53:14 AM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
The last time the Death Penalty was applied in Ct was Mike Ross, May 2005... for a series of murders (8) in the 80's. He sat on Death Row 18 years.
9 posted on 12/02/2010 8:56:48 AM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: theDentist

Justice delayed is justice denied.

Anything over a yar is unacceptable in this case. He was caught red handed doing the acts.....nobody denies he did it. Why the delay....start the appeals today and get them fast-tracked.


10 posted on 12/02/2010 8:58:42 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: cvq3842

mercy?

How about may God take a piss on your head as he waves you down the chute to burn in hell


11 posted on 12/02/2010 9:00:06 AM PST by Mr. K ('Profiling' you would be worse than grabbing your balls!)
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To: Soothesayer

Evil does win....Too bad the husband just couldn’t shoot him in the head.....


12 posted on 12/02/2010 9:00:16 AM PST by geege
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To: OldDeckHand

What kind of “deal” did they make with the co-conspirator? The other guy (with the Russian last name) was actually the one whose idea it was, IIRC. He participated in everything and in fact was even the one who lit the fire. It’s hard to imagine that any deal could have been made to protect him.


13 posted on 12/02/2010 9:01:27 AM PST by livius
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To: OldDeckHand
this guy - who is guilty beyond ANY doubt, to say nothing of reasonable doubt

I like the old fashioned term, "guilty beyond peradventure".

14 posted on 12/02/2010 9:02:30 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: theDentist

18 years on Death Row is nothing. In Florida we have murderers on Death Row since the 70’s who did their crimes in the 60’s. Really disgraceful.


15 posted on 12/02/2010 9:12:41 AM PST by untwist
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To: livius
"What kind of “deal” did they make with the co-conspirator? "

I'm mistaken. No plea with Komisarjeski has been struck. His trial - as best I can tell - has not begun. I was under the impression that a plea had been negotiated. That is incorrect. Sorry for the confusion.

16 posted on 12/02/2010 9:12:48 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Red in Blue PA

In the famous “double indemnity” case, the case on which the book and movie are very loosely based, the murder occured on March 20, 1927 and the murderers were executed on January 12, 1928, less than 10 months later. And that was an extremely high profile murder case.

In their last ditch appeal, the attorneys for the murdering bastards, Saco and Vanzetti, tried to have the sentence commuted because the interval between the verdict (July 14, 1921) and execution (August 23, 1927) constituted cruel and unusual punishment! The sentence was delayed because of the extraordinary circus put on by the defense, nevertheless, even in Texas, six years between verdict and execution would be considered swift these days.


17 posted on 12/02/2010 9:16:52 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Mr. K
How about may God take a piss on your head as he waves you down the chute to burn in hell.

This is why mortals don't qualify for the position of God. It seems like such an easy job, but not many of us, I fear, could do it.

18 posted on 12/02/2010 9:20:44 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: theDentist

Ross got death because he gave up his appeals and asked for death

Last CT execution before Ross was in 1960!!!!


19 posted on 12/02/2010 9:22:02 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The liberal defense lawyers will seize upon this to say the judge was a religious fanatic and the sentence should be reversed.


20 posted on 12/02/2010 9:23:21 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Just imagine if this occurred in a state that did not have the death penalty.

Zero justice...


21 posted on 12/02/2010 9:26:44 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"In the famous “double indemnity” case, the case on which the book and movie are very loosely based, the murder occured on March 20, 1927 and the murderers were executed on January 12, 1928, less than 10 months later"

It reminds me of the Nazi saboteurs that were caught of the coasts of FL and NY (I think LI) in June of 1942. They were set ashore by U-Boat, on a mission to blow up military and civilian targets on US soil. They were apprehended virtually immediately, and none had been able to attempt their acts of sabotage, let alone successfully complete them.

They were all tried by military commission (yep, military commission), and all were found guilty. One man, a US national named Quirin became the defendant in the famous US Supreme Court case Ex parte Quirin, 317 U.S. 1 (1942). His life was sparred eventually, as was another US national who was caught. But, the remaining 8 (or 6, I can't remember) were executed as a result of the commission's guilty verdict. They were hanged until death in Washington DC on August 8, 1942 - roughly 9 weeks after they had been apprehended.

Today, we have people at Guantanamo that not only attempted sabotage and murder against America and her citizens, but were actually successful. None have been put to death, almost 10-years later.

22 posted on 12/02/2010 9:35:30 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

I believe FDR made some remark about not wanting some sonofabitch filing a Habeus Corpus writ in that case.


23 posted on 12/02/2010 9:47:31 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Thank goodness! I know prosecutors make some crazy deals, but I honestly couldn’t see even a CT prosecutor making a deal with this guy!


24 posted on 12/02/2010 9:51:56 AM PST by livius
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To: untwist
The Florida death penalty (along with most other U.S. death penalty laws) was struck down by the Supreme Court in 1972 and anyone convicted prior to that date could not be executed.

Supreme Court Overturns Most Death Penalty Laws

25 posted on 12/02/2010 9:54:17 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

You are correct. I am talking about convictions and sentencing after the 1972 decision. If you look at the current Florida Death Row roster, there are condemned murderers sitting on Death Row now who have been there for over 35 years, some who did their killing in the 60’s but were convicted and sentenced years later.


26 posted on 12/02/2010 9:57:59 AM PST by untwist
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"I believe FDR made some remark about not wanting some sonofabitch filing a Habeus Corpus writ in that case."

I believe that. FDR was a progressive pseudo-socialist who didn't hate his country. I'm pretty sure his kind are now extinct.

The other thing about this case, is that the commissions were held ENTIRELY in secret. Can you imagine being able to pull that off today?

27 posted on 12/02/2010 9:59:14 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: untwist

The Constitution explicitly forbids ex-post facto laws. Any attempt to execute someone for a crime commited in the 1960’s using a law passed in 1972 would seem to me to run afoul of the Constitution. You have to be tried under the laws in effect at the time of the crime.


28 posted on 12/02/2010 10:01:55 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I like the old fashioned term, "guilty beyond peradventure".

The complete phrase is "guilty beyond peradventure (= chance) of doubt."

Regards,

29 posted on 12/02/2010 10:48:21 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I stand corrected on one point. One of the killers did commit his 1st Murder 1 in 1966 and got life. He was mercifully freed and did an encore performance in ‘78. He has been on Death Row since ‘81 for that one.

On the other point, I stand by my statement. There are numerous guys on Death Row since mid-70’s, one guy since ‘74. Several of these guys could be on Social Security.


30 posted on 12/02/2010 10:57:29 AM PST by untwist
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To: alexander_busek
I got it from Judge Thayer's charge to the jury in the Sacco and Vanzetti case and it must have been boilerplate for him:

At the very beginning of this subject, you must thoroughly understand that it means the doubt of a reasonable man who is earnestly seeking the truth. It does not mean the doubt of a man who is earnestly looking for doubts. It means such a doubt that exists in the mind of a juror after there has been, on his part, an honest and conscientious effort to ascertain the truth. It does not mean a doubt beyond all peradventure. Neither does it mean beyond all imaginary or possible doubt, because everything relating to human affairs and human evidence is open to some possible or imaginary doubt.

I like it.

31 posted on 12/02/2010 11:19:57 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

The judge should have said: “Only God may have mercy on your soul because I won’t. Have a nice day.”


32 posted on 12/02/2010 12:24:35 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: alexander_busek

BTW, good point, thanks.


33 posted on 12/02/2010 12:54:52 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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