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Being Jewish at Christmastime
Jewish World Review ^ | December 3, 2010 | Greg Crosby

Posted on 12/03/2010 3:04:32 PM PST by bsaunders

On the web site About.com, a reformed Rabbi answers a question regarding what the "right" thing to do is when wished "Merry Christmas."

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: benstein; christmas; jew
Good article on Jews and Christmas. I'd have to say Ben Stein proves smarter than the Rabbi in this article. Needless to say, I agree far more with Ben. Oh, and Merry Christmas fellow Freepers from one Jew not scared to say the word Christmas.
1 posted on 12/03/2010 3:04:37 PM PST by bsaunders
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To: bsaunders

Happy Hanukkah!

I’m lucky that the Jews I work with are wonderful guys. I always acknowledge/respect their holidays & they work on Easter & Christmas so that I can be off.


2 posted on 12/03/2010 3:08:46 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: bsaunders

A little problem right at the start.

It’s not REFORMED........it’s REFORM

No such thing as Reformed Rabbi


3 posted on 12/03/2010 3:10:06 PM PST by Carley (ISRAEL.......NOT SO ALONE!!!)
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To: bsaunders

That said, it may be Christmas time...but right now it’s Hannukkah.


4 posted on 12/03/2010 3:11:02 PM PST by Carley (ISRAEL.......NOT SO ALONE!!!)
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To: bsaunders

"I just ask for an extra helping of the General Tso's chicken..."

5 posted on 12/03/2010 3:11:02 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: bsaunders

Merry Christmas. And Happy Hanukkah.


6 posted on 12/03/2010 3:11:42 PM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Isn’t that the kid from “Two and a Half Men”?


7 posted on 12/03/2010 3:16:18 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
Isn’t that the kid from “Two and a Half Men”?

No, it's just 2.5 men

8 posted on 12/03/2010 3:19:30 PM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: bsaunders

I’m Catholic but will be attending a Hanukkah dinner party this weekend. I’m glad the host didn’t water it down to a ‘holiday dinner party.’


9 posted on 12/03/2010 3:19:43 PM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

No...it’s Kevin James from ‘King of Queens’


10 posted on 12/03/2010 3:21:54 PM PST by jgilbert63
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To: bsaunders

I really don’t know what all the hoopla is. Back in the day, my Jewish cousins would have a Christmas tree and throw a Christmas/Hanukkah party for everyone. We went to synogogue with them. They’d come over to our house to spend the night on Christmas Eve and the next morning would find their gifts from Santa under our tree. No big deal. Hey, more fun, more presents and more candy!


11 posted on 12/03/2010 3:21:56 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: bsaunders

Happy Hanukkah my friends. More than ever we Christians need our Jewish friends. We need to stick together in these trouble times. This Christian stands by you.


12 posted on 12/03/2010 3:22:39 PM PST by rstark56
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To: bsaunders

I heard Mark Levine humming along to a Christmas song being played as bumper music yesterday when he said, “I love Christmas music”. LOL!


13 posted on 12/03/2010 3:27:48 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: bsaunders
My advice is to be polite, but persistent, in telling people that you do not celebrate Christmas.

NOT good article.

I'm Jewish too.

I wish plenty of people a "Happy Birthday" when it's not my birthday. Why should I not wish people a Merry Christmas?

People who wish ME a Merry Christmas, obviously are not aware, or they forget, that I am not a Christian. Big Deal. They mean well. Should I make them feel awkward? I don't think so.

And what of "Happy New Year," good Rabbi? Maybe most folks don't know but it's really the "Feast of Circumcision." Is this awkward for you too? All these people are celebrating a Jew and Jewish values. You should join them.

ML/NJ

14 posted on 12/03/2010 3:34:16 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

The second half of the article, the part where Ben Stein is quoted, says much what you say. It was Ben I agreed with, as per my comment that Ben got it right and not the Rabbi.


15 posted on 12/03/2010 3:37:54 PM PST by bsaunders
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To: righttackle44

Should we be going out for Chinese tonight, then?

Damn....we are going to a greek restaurant tonight.


16 posted on 12/03/2010 3:42:04 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Don't taze my junk bro.)
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To: bsaunders

I once was the only Christian working for a Jewish company of about 50. Never had any problems either way. Why someone would ever be offended by someone wishing you Merry Christmas or Happy Hanukkah is beyond me. I loved being included in the Jewish festivities, mainly because of my Christian heritage, and the feeling seemed to be mutual the other way as well.

As secularized as Christmas has become, it amazes me anyone would be offended.


17 posted on 12/03/2010 3:45:40 PM PST by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: bsaunders
Thanks for sharing the article.

I feel that many Christians do not have a familiarity with Jewish customs and traditions except through the readings of the Bible.

In forums, such as FR, we have a chance to learn and understand.

The question that I have always wanted to ask: How do the Jewish people view Jesus Christ, a Jewish man that has a divine nature as the son of God and who has fulfilled the prophecies of the Old Testament?

As many Jews became Christians and as Christians, we have a Jewish heritage, I am puzzled that God came amongst us, yet some still don't accept Jesus Christ as God

18 posted on 12/03/2010 3:46:25 PM PST by ADSUM (Democracy works when citizens get involved and keep government honest.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL

and then go hide out in a movie theater.


19 posted on 12/03/2010 3:51:00 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I love Christmas music, I love Christmas lights, I love the feeling everyone has around Christmas, why would I want to stop that? As a Jew, I don’t know any other Jew, even when I lived in New York, who wanted to deny anything Christmas...it is a small group of very loud, unhappy people who do these things.


20 posted on 12/03/2010 4:03:37 PM PST by Hildy
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To: rmlew; Yehuda; SJackson

ping


21 posted on 12/03/2010 4:15:19 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: bsaunders

Jesus Christ was a Jew. When we honor Him, I believe we also honor his Judaism. As a Catholic, I accept that we are so intertwined with Judaism that to deny it would be to deny Jesus Christ.


22 posted on 12/03/2010 4:27:08 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: bsaunders

As a theist, I can only say there is only one reason for celebrating Christmas in my book. It offends muslims..


23 posted on 12/03/2010 4:31:54 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Carley

I thought a reformed rabbi was a guy who had a drinking problem :-)


24 posted on 12/03/2010 4:33:36 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: bsaunders

It’s hard to be a Jew on Christmas.
My friends won’t let me join in any games.
And I can’t sing Christmas songs or decorate a Christmas tree
Or leave water out for Rudolph ‘cuz there’s something wrong with me.
My people don’t believe in Jesus Christ’s divinity!

I’m a Jew,
A lonely Jew
On Christmas.

Hanukkah is nice,
But why is it
That Santa passes over my house every year?

And instead of eating ham I have to eat kosher latkes;
Instead of Silent Night I’m singing Hoo Hact Toh Gaveesh;
And what the .... is up with lighting all these ....ing candles tell me please?

I’m a Jew,
A lonely Jew
I can’t be merry
‘Cuz I’m Hebrew
On Christmas.

- Kyle Broflofski


25 posted on 12/03/2010 4:35:21 PM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: bsaunders

I’ve lived in or near a midsize southern city with a fair population of Jewish citizens dating to the nineteenth century or even before, for over two decades. The downtown decorations honor both, Festival of Lights, Christmas. The Hadassah ladies raise funds for their temple by setting up giftwrap kiosks in the shopping malls. It’s a nonissue with anyone religious. The secular are another matter.


26 posted on 12/03/2010 4:35:43 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: bsaunders
Happy Hanukkah!

Years ago in college, I was in charge of getting somebody to speak at the Sunrise Service on Easter for the students who were to be on campus.

I had no clue when I asked her to do it that Sandy Stevens was Jewish... and she didn't tell me when she agreed to do it. All went well.

27 posted on 12/03/2010 4:37:32 PM PST by lonestar
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To: Cacique

LOL.......as a Christian I find that comment funny.....


28 posted on 12/03/2010 4:39:14 PM PST by Kimmers (Tell a lie often enough it becomes political........)
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To: bsaunders

Just say thank you. Water off a duck’s back.


29 posted on 12/03/2010 4:53:27 PM PST by donna (Conservatives believe in God, Family, Country. Not money, money, money.)
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To: ml/nj
Why should I not wish people a Merry Christmas?

Indeed. If I lived in Haifa or someplace where I were surrounded by Jews, I'd probably groove on them celebrating their Hanukkah. If I were extended an invitation, I might mention that I am Christian to make sure that it isn't some kind of problem for them in particular, and accept. Variety is interesting. What's wrong with that?

30 posted on 12/03/2010 4:54:31 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: bsaunders

Jesus (Yeshua) was and is a Jew. I don’t go in for the replacement theology that has dominated the church for a long time. I can’t read the Bible and deduct that Israel and the Jews weren’t and aren’t figuring into God’s plan in a big way.


31 posted on 12/03/2010 5:31:20 PM PST by Twinkie (Two wrongs don't make a right.)
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To: Hildy
it is a small group of very loud, unhappy people who do these things.

Isn't it always?

32 posted on 12/03/2010 8:36:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Cacique

Most of the time I return the comment in the spirit of brotherood. Then again, I performed in Handel’s Messiah back when I was a treble.

One antisemite did say it to me once just to piss me off. It worked. I gave a less than polite answer that amounted to “If you don’t like Jews, why are you praying to one, and celebrating his birthday on the wrong date?”


33 posted on 12/04/2010 3:58:09 AM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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34 posted on 12/06/2010 5:54:18 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Now that is a big girl or a Hungry Heifer you make the call on this one. But I wouldn’t want to wrestle her for foood.


35 posted on 12/06/2010 8:52:54 AM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: ml/nj

I like to see God expressed in America so I wish people Merry Christmas rather than Happy Holidays. I’m Jewish. Christmas can get pretty secular and money/gift oriented but God and Christ will always be the larger part.

On a practical level Christmas with all its lights and good cheer is designed to get you over the dark days of winter. So is Hanukkah.


36 posted on 12/06/2010 9:11:19 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: bsaunders

Somehow I don’t think these two perspectives are different RELIGIOUS perspectives as much as they are different political perspectives.

Not being Jewish, I can’t speak with authority on these opinions. But it would seem to me that Reform Judaism is very often practised by political liberals. Political liberals of whatever religious bent, seem to have a problem with religiousity of any sort - particularly in a public forum.

On the other hand, surveys I have read, seem to imply that more Orthodox and Conservative Jews are political conservatives and political conservatives have no problem with religion.

Personally, I think that America needs as much “God” and religion as possible right now and always, regardless of the source. I have no problem with Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. They all basically have the same sponsor.

Merry CHristmas and Happy Hannuka.

If I know somebody is Jewish, I wish them Happy Hanukka and wish Christians Merry Christmas.

Now Islam is ANOTHER STORY.


37 posted on 12/06/2010 9:42:40 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: bsaunders

I love being Hebrew ALL the time! Why should Christmas be any different? And why in the world would I not accept that a good person would wish me a Merry Christmas regardless? It’s just stupid. And it is sad that we are even discussing this.
I wear two Stars of David around my neck and around Christmastime, when I pass through a checkout line and hear the employees wishing people “Happy Holidays,” I make it a point to respond with “Merry Christmas.” It is inevitably met with a huge smile which is a happy thing to see. Why stifle it?
Usually by then, Chanukah is over and I have had my time. Peace on Earth and Goodwill Toward Men is a wonderful thing. I await the Messiah. IF He has come and I do not know it, He will come again. If He has not come, we will ALL know when He does. So I have nothing to apologize for or dis anyone for. Religion is in the eye of the beholder. FAITH is something that resides within. I have faith. I believe in One G-d. No one can ask more of me...nor I of them.
So Happy Chanukah and Merry Christmas because that is what it is!
By the way, I don’t think miracles is “minor.” Deform rabies get on my last nerve.


38 posted on 12/06/2010 9:49:52 AM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: MestaMachine; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; ncfool; dalight; All
Deform rabies get on my last nerve.

"Deform rabies": LOL!!!

The main reason I agree with you is because the majority of them brainwash their congregants into a leftist mind set that jeopardizes the survival of all of Western civilization, including Israel and Jewish people and culture around the world.

39 posted on 12/06/2010 1:07:08 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: bsaunders
Being Jewish at Christmastime

If it bothers you a bit that's a good thing. Your neshama is reminding you who you are and where you live.....in the diaspora. Either get use to it or go to the land which HaShem gave to you.

B'H

40 posted on 12/06/2010 1:50:08 PM PST by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: justiceseeker93

One letter and one word. J street.
Rabies. Contageous. Very. Moses would weep.


41 posted on 12/06/2010 2:59:19 PM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: papabrody

Israel exists wherever I am. I carry it with me in my DNA and in my very soul. I gave been told over and over again that the hasbarah of the STATE of Israel needs to be changed. The STATE of Israel is not the Israel HaShem gave to us. It is a fake and a flimflam that the UN carved out to assuage their own guilt and trap us in a web we can’t get out of. It is where they intended to put an end to us once and for all.
And as long as Israel is filled with those who have defiled her for centuries, claiming what is not theirs, and we have aquiesced to it for political expediency, it is NOT the Israel that HaShem commanded. As it stands, it is the last days of Solomon once again, where HaShem decided enough was enough.


42 posted on 12/06/2010 3:13:55 PM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: MestaMachine
There has always been a huge distinction between the State of Israel and eretz israel, but I think you know that.

I do agree with what you are saying, but I will not allow myself to use that as a reason not to do Aliyah. I am commanded as a Torah-observant Jew to follow HaShem's words, not my own. Maybe I can be somebody who can make a difference. This is what makes my heart and mind right and makes my decision the right one:

This way to meet HaShem

43 posted on 12/06/2010 5:59:33 PM PST by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: Cacique

Hey Cacique!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!


44 posted on 12/07/2010 6:32:07 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: bsaunders

A real Jewish perspective can be heard in this audio

http://www.simpletoremember.com/media/a/Real-Story-of-X-mas-and-New-Years-b/

by Rabbi Lawrence Kelemen, a respected teacher.


45 posted on 12/07/2010 7:01:25 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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