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Filipinos sue CA hospital over English-only rule
AP-Yahoo! ^ | December 7, 2010 | AMY TAXIN

Posted on 12/08/2010 4:21:37 AM PST by greatdefender

LOS ANGELES – Dozens of Filipino hospital workers in California sued their employer Tuesday alleging they were the sole ethnic group targeted by a rule requiring them to speak only English.

The group of 52 nurses and medical staff filed a complaint accusing Delano Regional Medical Center of banning them from speaking Tagalog and other Filipino languages while letting other workers speak Spanish and Hindi.

The plaintiffs are seeking to join an August complaint filed by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission in Kern County federal court over the hospital's enforcement of a rule requiring workers to speak English.

Filipino workers said they were called to a special meeting in August 2006 where they were warned not to speak Tagalog and told surveillance cameras would be installed, if necessary, to monitor them. Since then, workers said they were told on a daily basis by fellow staffers to speak only English, even on breaks.

"I felt like people were always watching us," said tearful 56-year-old Elnora Cayme, who worked for the hospital from 1980 to 2008. "Even when we spoke English ... people would come and approach us and tell us, 'English only.'"

A message was left at the hospital seeking comment.

In its lawsuit, the EEOC has accused the hospital in California's San Joaquin Valley of creating a hostile working environment for Filipinos by singling them out for reprimands and for encouraging other staff to report them. The agency is seeking an injunction to protect the workers against future discrimination.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education
KEYWORDS: california; court; english; englishonly; filipinos

1 posted on 12/08/2010 4:21:40 AM PST by greatdefender
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To: greatdefender

Ha Ha!


2 posted on 12/08/2010 4:25:31 AM PST by petercooper (Purge the RINO's.)
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To: greatdefender
Fire their a$$e$ and send them to work in Saudi Arabia... deport them... but first beat the crap out of them so no other foreigners will sue again. Yeah I know it is over the top but I am over this kind of crap permanently!

LLS

3 posted on 12/08/2010 4:26:20 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: petercooper

What language was this complaint written in


4 posted on 12/08/2010 4:26:41 AM PST by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin B)
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To: greatdefender

If they don’t want to speak English, then they sshould go back to the Phillippines.


5 posted on 12/08/2010 4:37:37 AM PST by BuffaloJack (The Recession is officially over. We are now into Obama's Depression.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“Fire their a$$e$ and send them to work in Saudi Arabia... deport them..”

What the H is YOUR problem.
You have a problem with people having conversations in their native language.
They also probably speak English better then you do.


6 posted on 12/08/2010 4:37:42 AM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW
They also probably speak English better then you do.

They also probably speak English better than you do.

7 posted on 12/08/2010 4:53:17 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: greatdefender
Hostile environment?

What about the environment for the Americans in their hospital?

Every day I hear conversations in Spanish around me which are not just hostile but violent and criminal. Oddly the people speaking such things seem unaware that some people who don't look like them just might understand them.

It's disgusting and vile to have to listen to it. They think the language barrier protects them - which is the real reason they want the right to speak in their language when around the suckers, er, Americans.

It used to be considered rude to speak anything other than English in public in the U.S. - home was a different story.

As for the Spanish and Hindi speakers in that hospital - the same rules should apply to them.

But we all know they won't. They're above ordinary laws and especially laws of decent behavior, doncha know?

8 posted on 12/08/2010 4:59:39 AM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: arasina
They also probably speak English better than you do.

I think that should be "They, probably, speak English better than you as well." (muttering) %&^$ public schools.

9 posted on 12/08/2010 5:01:56 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: greatdefender

These are the same people who would bring harassment complaints to HR if every time they walked into a coffee area all the American English-speaking employees whispered into one another’s ear behind a concealing hand.

Talking in a language that you know no one around you understands has the same effect. People wonder if they are being talked about.


10 posted on 12/08/2010 5:08:24 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: greatdefender

That said, if you are subject to this, I’ve found that the best remedy is to stop and look at each person talking and concentrate as they speak as if you understand what they are talking about.

I’ve found it makes the foreign-speakers so uncomfortable they hush their conversation.

Now if they weren’t bad-mouthing someone or something (America) in that foreign language, why would they need to hush?


11 posted on 12/08/2010 5:10:05 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Regulator

Exactly!!


12 posted on 12/08/2010 5:11:02 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe; Regulator

Let me see if I understand you.
You and a group of Americans are sent to do a project in
Saudi Arabia.
Should you and your friends be prohibited from speaking English among yourselves?

As I read the article, the conversations were not related
to their official duties, or interactions with American staff or patients.
It is also noted, that employees speaking OTHER languages
were not held to the same standard.

The Philippine people are noted for working all over the world, and with a very good work ethic.


13 posted on 12/08/2010 5:30:43 AM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW

“You have a problem with people having conversations in their native language. They also probably speak English better then you do.”

What the H is YOUR problem?

(1) I, for one, have a problem with people having conversations in their native language in the workplace in the U.S. (If just visiting as a tourist — no problem.) I worked with Filipino people in a government office in California, and we Americans agreed that their incessant yip-yapping to each other in Tagalog in front of everyone was annoying and, even worse, RUDE. We complained formally, but it turns out that they have the right not to be offended, but it’s OK for us to be offended.

(2) Good grief, if a NURSE, dealing with life-and-death issues doesn’t/won’t speak intelligible English in America, or doesn’t understand English, you bet I have a problem with that. There comes a point where the health of patients trumps political correctness.

(3) My MIL is 93, is in a California convalescent home following major surgery, and the head nurse is Filipino. The most excruciating time of my day is when she checks in and attempts to provide an update. We cannot understand a word she says, and she can’t understand us. My MIL can’t understand her. We wonder if the doctor(s) can. How is this a good thing? What is the potential for major errors in my MIL’s healthcare?

(4) Is English your second language? If so, then it makes sense that the “then”-vs.-”than” issue might be a challenge. Also, following a question, i.e., “What the H is YOUR problem”, there should be a question mark instead of a period.


14 posted on 12/08/2010 5:35:00 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam

“(4) Is English your second language?”

No, it is not, but when I get hot under the collar from
idiotic posts, my dyslexia takes hold, and I loose control.

I will ask again.
If you are sent to work in a foreign country, should you be prohibited from having private chats, in English, with fellow workers?


15 posted on 12/08/2010 6:00:32 AM PST by AlexW
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To: BuffaloJack

Philippine children as a general rule are required to learn to speak English in the Philippines. In fact, you are much more likely to run into an English speaker in Manila than in Los Angeles, New York, or even Kansas City.

They are pissed because they are being treated differently, not because they cannot speak English.


16 posted on 12/08/2010 6:02:10 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: AlexW

It’s lose, not loose.


17 posted on 12/08/2010 6:13:23 AM PST by Shimmer1
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To: AlexW

“If you are sent to work in a foreign country, should you be prohibited from having private chats, in English, with fellow workers?”

If you’re working in another country and indigenous people are present, then you should not “chat” in English in front of them. It would be so very rude! If only English-speaking people are together, then fine — chat up a storm. It’s simple etiquette. The true definition of a “lady” or “gentleman” is to not make others feel uncomfortable. If acting like a boor is what someone’s going for, then anything goes.


18 posted on 12/08/2010 6:18:21 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: greatdefender
The group of 52 nurses and medical staff filed a complaint accusing Delano Regional Medical Center of banning them from speaking Tagalog and other Filipino languages while letting other workers speak Spanish and Hindi.

I'm all for Englush only but why single out Tagalog? I see no difference between Tagalog, Spanish, and Hindi...all of them should speak English only on the job.

It would be nice if they all wanted to speak English when they are out and about in America (and speak their native languages at home) showing they want to be a partof this country....you know, the one they actually live and work in!

19 posted on 12/08/2010 6:25:20 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: AlexW
These people are here in THIS COUNTRY as our guests... they are not citizens... they should be required to speak English before they should be allowed to work in this country... My problem is people like you and these illegal and semi-legal aliens that force me to punch a button on the phone to speak to or receive data in THIS NATION'S LANGUAGE. That is what my problem is... what the hell is the matter with you?! BTW, your sentence structure sucks... as does your perspective.

LLS

20 posted on 12/08/2010 7:08:47 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

The key word in Alex’s question is “sent” — AFAIK, the workers in question were not “sent” (by someone/entiry) but hired by the hospital in question...

Perhaps the fault lies in the hospital’s hiring practices or the State’s hiring policy...

And yes, it is very rude, and, as you point out, possibily life threatening in some situations.

As far as “private converstions” in the work place goes - there should be none. {Private converstions should be what happens on break/lunch/or after work).


21 posted on 12/08/2010 7:28:38 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: BuffaloJack
banning them from speaking Tagalog and other Filipino languages while letting other workers speak Spanish and Hindi.

I think that's the sticking point. I'm all for English-only, but it has to be blanket, no discrimination against a specific grouop.

22 posted on 12/08/2010 7:33:38 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Correct. There has to be a universal language or we will fall on the wayside as a result of this ‘multicultural’ nonsense.

I’m in L.A. and rode for the first time a DASH bus which costs 25 cents. In it...ALL the signs were in Spanish but the passengers were mostly European seniors.

Now, where is the MULTI-cultural aspect of it when ONE language which is NOT English was clearly shown?


23 posted on 12/08/2010 8:39:49 AM PST by max americana (FIVE)
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To: AlexW

If I speak Arabic, YES.

If I went to India and worked with another American, I sure as hell would insist that we speak Hindi or whatever was the dominant language if I could speak it.

Not just yeah. Hell yeah. I would never risk insulting my hosts by whispering behind a concealing hand in their midst.


24 posted on 12/09/2010 4:16:16 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: AlexW

Also, I never said “prohibited.”

I’m talking about what used to be common courtesy. It also used to be the norm that immigrants learned our language when they came here.

As far as “they weren’t talking about...” well who the hell knows the truth about that? That’s the point.


25 posted on 12/09/2010 4:17:42 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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