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Recollections of John Lennon's Assassination (30 year anniversary today)

Posted on 12/08/2010 6:53:25 PM PST by SamAdams76

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To: Inyo-Mono

That’s #27.


41 posted on 12/08/2010 7:38:19 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: SamAdams76
I still like most of the Beatles music but I find most of the later "artsy-fartsy"

I agree with you on REVOLVER, not sure about RUBBER SOUL, since I haven't given it a serious listen in decades.

That was their great period, those years bracketing Sgt. Pepper.

Somebody said a while ago that if you get two hoodlums together in a certain combination they egg each other on and become like one monstrous, soulless machine . Alone, they might be merely obnoxious; but a weird synchrony happens when those particular characters cooperate, evil spawns.

I think this kind of summing of powers happens in art as well: neither Paul nor John alone produced anything approaching what they achieved during their collaboration.

Others have said that each was the antithesis of the other: John was the cynical, soured idealist, Paul the romantic optimist.

So, you can understand their inevitable split.

Still it's a shame. You need friction to have traction.

42 posted on 12/08/2010 7:39:43 PM PST by tsomer
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To: Revolting cat!
it was a murder not an assassination.

Yes, it was a murder but please explain why you feel it was not also an assassination. The word assassination is generally defined as a deliberate act of killing someone, especially one who is a public figure, for financial gain, on behalf of a political agenda or for obtaining personal public recognition.

Therefore I believe it is accurate to describe the killing of John Lennon as an assassination.

43 posted on 12/08/2010 7:39:57 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 222 days away from outliving Wendy O Williams (Plasmatics))
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To: behzinlea
The John Lennon of Meet the Beatles, Revolver, Help!, Rubber Soul, and Sgt Pepper's LHCB, I liked a lot. Not so much the Lennon of White Album and Abbey Road fame. The post-Beatles Lennon of Yoko Ono and Imagine, I loathed.

Interesting. I loved the early Beatles stuff most of all, Rubber Soul is my favorite album. They started losing me after Sargent Pepper and The White Album. I remember reading an article written not long after Lennon died and the author stated that basically conservative youth loved the early Beatles stuff and were turned off by their later druggy material. That fit me to a tee.

44 posted on 12/08/2010 7:43:17 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: SamAdams76

I haven’t read the preceding posts, but things happen in our lives that are only viewable in hindsight. I was born in ‘71 and couldn’t care less about the Beatles. But they contributed to where we are today.
I am 39 and love Eminem. In 30 years Ill probably hate him if I’m still alive. But, it is what it is, at the time...


45 posted on 12/08/2010 7:43:59 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: SamAdams76
I've been a conservative from birth and believe John Lennon to be THE melodic genius of the 20th century.

I got off the ship around noon on Dec 9th in Olongopo. As soon as we crossed the bridge over sh!t river, we saw folks crying...shouting "John Lennon is Dead!"

It was heartbreaking for me...not because of his obvious commie essence, but because of the loss of such an ENORMOUS talent.

He was the best tenor any of us will ever hear.

I'm listening to Beatles records tonight, skipping all McCartney and Harrison songs.

Wow. Just wow.

46 posted on 12/08/2010 7:44:56 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: SamAdams76
I was just coming out of the Sutton Theater in NYC with my husband from a screening of “Raging Bull”. Somebody came up to us on the street and said that John Lennon had been shot outside the Dakota Apartments and he was dead.

I was a big Beatles fan as a pre-teenager/teenager but I lost interest in the Beatles as single artists. I was horrified that he was shot dead int he street but I didn't have this overwhelming sense of lost that others had.

47 posted on 12/08/2010 7:45:32 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: RedMDer
I was a big Beatles fan but, come on, this anniversary gets more coverage than Pearl Harbor day. Ridiculous.

I totally agree but in fairness, there are not too many people left who have first-hand recollections of Pearl Harbor Day. Still, I observed the anniversary yesterday and recognize it as a very important day in our nation's history.

48 posted on 12/08/2010 7:46:32 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 222 days away from outliving Wendy O Williams (Plasmatics))
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To: Mariner

Disagree. Even when I was a hopelessly misguided liberal adolescent I could not stand him.


49 posted on 12/08/2010 7:48:11 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: JaguarXKE
Ever listen to the song "Imagine?" It's basically the Communist Manifesto set to music...

There's that line in the song "American Pie" about Lennon reading a book on Marx. Or was that Lenin?

50 posted on 12/08/2010 7:56:06 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: kabumpo
You probably think Barry Manilow and Neil Diamond were far better musicians.

At least step up to the Stones:)

51 posted on 12/08/2010 7:56:36 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: SamAdams76

I was a freshman in college. I was in the community bathroom getting ready for bed, with the rest of my dorm mates, and I heard the news on the radio that was playing. None of us stopped what we were doing. I thought it was sad, but I shrugged my shoulders and continued brushing my teeth.


52 posted on 12/08/2010 7:57:25 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Mariner

No, not at all. I never listened to or liked Diamond/Manilow . Odd how you would make that up.


53 posted on 12/08/2010 8:00:51 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: SamAdams76

Was it really THAT late when the news came out? That’s not the way I remember it.

I distinctly remember the moment when I first heard about it: I was driving, on MOPAC in Austin... on my way to visit a young lady name Charlotte... about whom I cared a great deal. I was heading to her house, with a Christmas gift... she lived at home, with her parents... so, I would have thought it was in the early evening...

I was in college.. at the University of Texas. Miss Charlotte was in the choir with me.. and, she was SO CUTE! Apparently, I liked her a LOT more than she liked me.... but, whatever. We BOTH loved music. So, I was pretty upset to hear that John Lennon was dead.

I remember... one of my first thoughts was: “Well, there will never be a reunion concert now!”

I always thought McCartney had more talent than Lennon... but, they were a great team. Lennon was always just a BIT TOO WEIRD for me... I was as CONSERVATIVE then....as I am now..... But, I still was saddened by the loss of a musician I respected..

But, mostly... I remember seeing Charlotte that night. The moonlight lit up her hair after she kissed me that night. :-P


54 posted on 12/08/2010 8:03:11 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: SamAdams76

Was it really THAT late when the news came out? That’s not the way I remember it.

I distinctly remember the moment when I first heard about it: I was driving, on MOPAC in Austin... on my way to visit a young lady name Charlotte... about whom I cared a great deal. I was heading to her house, with a Christmas gift... she lived at home, with her parents... so, I would have thought it was in the early evening...

I was in college.. at the University of Texas. Miss Charlotte was in the choir with me.. and, she was SO CUTE! Apparently, I liked her a LOT more than she liked me.... but, whatever. We BOTH loved music. So, I was pretty upset to hear that John Lennon was dead.

I remember... one of my first thoughts was: “Well, there will never be a reunion concert now!”

I always thought McCartney had more talent than Lennon... but, they were a great team. Lennon was always just a BIT TOO WEIRD for me... I was as CONSERVATIVE then....as I am now..... But, I still was saddened by the loss of a musician I respected..

But, mostly... I remember seeing Charlotte that night. The moonlight lit up her hair after she kissed me that night. :-P


55 posted on 12/08/2010 8:03:21 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: Infidel Heather
In the end, I think he realized he was just a musician without all the answers...

Well said. Pinging Bono of U2, pinging Bruce Springsteen...

56 posted on 12/08/2010 8:04:11 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 221 days away from outliving Wendy O Williams (Plasmatics))
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To: SamAdams76
Playing guitar with my friends in the cemetery across the road from the Bethpage State Park Black Course.

Yes, it was cold outside.

57 posted on 12/08/2010 8:05:23 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Was it really THAT late when the news came out? That’s not the way I remember it.

I was listening to the radio that night when the programming was interupted. It was around 7:30 or 8:00 pm PST as I recall.

58 posted on 12/08/2010 8:11:44 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: SamAdams76
John Lennon Assassination?

Ridiculous.

59 posted on 12/08/2010 8:13:02 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: SamAdams76

It was sad for awhile after because Lennon had just released his new album and it was kind of haunting listening to his songs on the radio afterwards. There were some really nice tunes on his last album and he seemed to have had a musical reawakening. That chump creep loser Chapman should have shot himself instead!


60 posted on 12/08/2010 8:13:36 PM PST by tflabo
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