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Custer's 'Last Flag' sold for $2.2 million
Yahoo News ^ | 12-10-2010 | MATTHEW BROWN

Posted on 12/10/2010 4:41:49 PM PST by Bad~Rodeo

Edited on 12/10/2010 4:46:25 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: custer; flag; littlebighorn
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1 posted on 12/10/2010 4:41:53 PM PST by Bad~Rodeo
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To: Bad~Rodeo

I think Custer gets a bad rap from history. Unfortunately a lot of was due to his wife’s behavior after his death.


2 posted on 12/10/2010 4:50:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek
his wife’s behavior after his death.

I'm not familiar with the story, please elaborate

3 posted on 12/10/2010 5:00:52 PM PST by Bad~Rodeo (Don't overthink common sense)
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To: cripplecreek

Leading his troops into a slaughter while chasing a bunch of people who wanted to *leave* the US still makes no sense. That’s what got him a bad rap from history. Too bad this action all but negated the amazing record he had in the Civil War.


4 posted on 12/10/2010 5:03:13 PM PST by MeganC (January 20, 2013 - President Sarah Palin)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Custer was bold and daring but didn’t understand risk or how it relates to probability and the statistics he became a part of.


5 posted on 12/10/2010 5:05:24 PM PST by fso301
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To: MeganC
My favorite Civil War Custer story was apparently McClellan and train were sitting on their horses by a river discussing how deep it may be, if they should cross, what to do - what to do.
Custer rides his horse out into the river, it is only a couple of feet deep and says, General, this is how deep the water is.
6 posted on 12/10/2010 5:09:11 PM PST by Jolla
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To: Jolla

Sort of like Patton in Italy. Funny how the best generals are always just a little off kilter.


7 posted on 12/10/2010 5:13:12 PM PST by MeganC (January 20, 2013 - President Sarah Palin)
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To: MeganC
Leading his troops into a slaughter while chasing a bunch of people who wanted to *leave* the US still makes no sense.

A few years ago I read an the book: "Custer and Crazy Horse" and in that book there is an excellent explanation.

Custer had considerable experience with fighting Indians and in virtually every case he and his men were badly out numbered. However, the Indians always used a sort of "hit and run" style of attacking. The Indians having much less fire power would always flee, in spite of their superior numbers.

That day Custer had no reason to believe the tactics would be any different, he also was not aware of the full size of the force he was up against.

That day, the Indians did not flee, they had in fact adjusted the battle plan and Custer paid the price.

8 posted on 12/10/2010 5:17:14 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Current count of friends/family who have abandoned Obama: 11)
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To: cripplecreek

Once again we agree. “Custer’s Luck” ran out when he left those Gatling guns behind. Things could have been a lot different. It can’t be disputed, he was one brave dude. Just made a few bad decisions in the Black Hills. And then there is “Libby” who also helped stick it to Major Reno.


9 posted on 12/10/2010 5:19:21 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: Michael.SF.

The thing was that those indians were trying to get into Canada. Why he, or anyone, wanted to stop them makes no sense. Why not just let them go and be Canada’s problem?


10 posted on 12/10/2010 5:21:49 PM PST by MeganC (January 20, 2013 - President Sarah Palin)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

She refused to allow an investigation and at that time it was customary for the military to honor the widow’s wishes.

There is actually a lot that has been uncovered in recent years that put the whole Hollywood version of Custer’s last stand into doubt. Most recent was a document uncovered in an archive that basically says Custer was free to attack at will. Supply lines stretched far further than Custer was comfortable with. Army ordinance dept sent them with unfamiliar single shot rifles so they wouldn’t waste ammo. Copper casings that swelled and stuck in the breech requiring that they be pried out with a knife after firing. Wildly conflicting accounts from the indians leave plenty of room for doubt. Evidence still found on site that doesn’t match what history says.

Looks like mistakes were made further up the chain of command and Mrs Custer’s decision to prevent an investigation was used as cover. The fact that he had a reputation of being a loose cannon didn’t help his case.

Over all, he made mistakes like ditching the heavy artillery but he was a good soldier who cared a great deal about his men. (See the photo at the bottom of my FR homepage)


11 posted on 12/10/2010 5:24:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Wikipedia actually has a pretty complete write up on Custer’s last stand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Little_Bighorn


12 posted on 12/10/2010 5:29:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: MeganC

The Indians WERE NOT trying to get into Canada. That came later, wehn the Army campaigned against them in the winter. When they left the encampmnet at the Little Big Horn, the Sioux, Cheyenne and Arapaho rode south and southeast.


13 posted on 12/10/2010 5:37:21 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: cripplecreek

In 2003, my new bride and I took a coach tour of the western National Parks. One of the stops was at the Little Bighorn National Battlefield Monument. It was the stop I had anticipated the most. The NPS guide was from the Crow Nation and gave an excellent presentation. He showed where Custer had first been buried, and then explained that he had been disinterred and reburied at West Point. All that they needed was some background music playing “Garryowen.”


14 posted on 12/10/2010 5:40:01 PM PST by Ax
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To: cripplecreek

I will, thanks


15 posted on 12/10/2010 5:44:36 PM PST by Bad~Rodeo (Don't overthink common sense)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the link. I did a quick read. Seems fair and accurate to me. That’s rare these days. Thanks again.


16 posted on 12/10/2010 5:48:55 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: cripplecreek
It is seldom brought out that his brother Thomas Custer, was a badass as well. A two-time recipient of the Medal of Honor is something.
17 posted on 12/10/2010 6:06:25 PM PST by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: Palter

Custer always said that his brother Tom should have been the general, and he the Captain.


18 posted on 12/10/2010 6:08:41 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Palter

I believe two of his brothers and a nephew were among those killed at the Little Bighorn.


19 posted on 12/10/2010 6:14:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Bad~Rodeo

First Custer’s last stand. Then Custer’s last flag. Soon, Custer’s last flag stand.


20 posted on 12/10/2010 6:22:53 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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