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70-mph limit mulled for Ohio Turnpike
The Toledo Blade ^ | December 18, 2010 | David Patch

Posted on 12/18/2010 2:58:46 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ohio Turnpike traffic could speed up just a bit come spring: the Ohio Turnpike Commission is to vote Monday on a proposal to increase the toll road's speed limit from 65 mph to 70 for all vehicles.

Getting trucks off parallel secondary roads such as State Rt. 2 and U.S. 20 is the idea, said Pioneer, Ohio, Mayor Edward Kidston, the turnpike commission member who has placed the proposal on the board's agenda. Pioneer is on U.S. 20 in western Williams County, just north of the turnpike.

Eliminating the turnpike's split speed limit, under which trucks and private buses were restricted to 55 mph while other vehicles could go 65, in 2004 was effective at luring truckers to the toll road, "and I'm hoping we can get another 15 to 20 percent of them off" the side roads by going to 70, Mr. Kidston said Friday.

"I'm wondering why it's taken this long to do it," he said. "The turnpike is designed for 70. It's the finest road in the country."

If approved, the increase would take effect on April 1, said L. George Distel, the turnpike's executive director.

"This is intended to help move truck traffic from the parallel routes to the turnpike, which is better designed to accommodate traffic at those speeds," he said.

Mr. Distel said the turnpike has complete authority over the toll road's speed limit, so no public legislation is required. The Ohio State Highway Patrol, which provides traffic enforcement under contract to the turnpike, has been notified of the proposal, he said.

Capt. Roger Hannay, commander of the state patrol's Turnpike District, said his organization will have no recommendation.

(Excerpt) Read more at toledoblade.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Local News; Travel
KEYWORDS: 70mph; highways; ohio; ohioturnpike; pioneer; speedlimit; trucks; williamscounty

1 posted on 12/18/2010 2:58:50 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

OMG the planet!!!!/s


2 posted on 12/18/2010 3:05:16 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The real issue is the tolls on the turnpike vs the free travel on surface routes. Raising the speed limit to 70 may help a little, but the fact is that already, trucks roll on the turnpike routinely at 75 mph.
3 posted on 12/18/2010 3:08:07 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It is about effing time!

That road is made for higher speeds and should have been that way already. 70mph is what I like to set my cruise on that pike anyway. Now I could be legal doing it.

4 posted on 12/18/2010 3:08:59 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Tolls also help keep the riff-raff (aka, “other drivers”) off. Provided that there are decent alternative “free” routes; the tolls reduce congestion. Less congestion, means faster travel, with fewer stops. That saves time — which, for a lot of people is money. Also, if you cut down on stops and starts; you also cut down on vehicle wear, and improve gas mileage. Those are important considerations for commercial vehicles.
5 posted on 12/18/2010 3:16:15 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: hinckley buzzard

The article says that the average speed for trucks is about 66 or 67. Cars, on the other hand, average well into the 70s.

Now trucks will probably be doing about 71 or 72.


6 posted on 12/18/2010 3:20:40 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Tolls also help keep the riff-raff (aka, “other drivers”) off.

No Mad Dog 20/20 swillers on my Turnpike! /s

7 posted on 12/18/2010 3:22:02 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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To: Dallas59
The extra carbon emissions will doom Ohio to milder winters!


8 posted on 12/18/2010 3:23:39 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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To: OldMissileer

When you build a toll road, you have to provide service that’s worth the money, thank G*d!


9 posted on 12/18/2010 3:25:06 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Got pulled over twice within 16 miles on that turnpike, once, on the way to the March for Life, 1993....


10 posted on 12/18/2010 3:27:43 PM PST by unspun (It's the Sovereignty, Stu... um... art. | We are Gulag Bound)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I note that short-hop drivers, independent truckers and all sorts of tradesmen’s trucks/vans stay off the turnpike making it a pleasure, if a bit boring, to drive.


11 posted on 12/18/2010 3:29:41 PM PST by relictele
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To: relictele

Yes, good point. Toll roads also tend to be a lot less nerve wracking.


12 posted on 12/18/2010 3:31:28 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I already don’t use the turnpike where there are roughly parallel roads that are “free”. Maybe if they stopped charging a toll?


13 posted on 12/18/2010 4:20:06 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

I do not understand how US Interstates can charge tolls...they get the same funding all other interstate highways get. There is no other way to get across Ohio other than the turnpike, so every one is forced on to it. If you tried to cross the state on the north side in any other way it would probably take a day. Fuel taxes are supposed to pay for the roads, and everyone pays fuel taxes. I don’t understand why the eastern states have such a huge proliferation for toll roads (In fact I believe almost all of them were temporary (temporary 50 years ago). Western states (with the exception of money grubbing California and a wee bit in Texas) do not have toll roads, and our roads have to go over mountains and stuff, Ohio’s turnpike is 300 miles of perfectly flat road.


14 posted on 12/18/2010 5:11:03 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: dsrtsage

Ohio 2 gets from Toledo to Elyria fairly well and is limited access for a good part of the way.


15 posted on 12/18/2010 5:14:11 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: dsrtsage

Montana has plenty of miles of “flat”(nothing is really flat out West) highway with only a few passes in the west.


16 posted on 12/18/2010 5:16:37 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

True, but you do not need to pay eleventy billion dollars on top of the already paid fuel tax for the “priveledge” of driving I-90 in Montana


17 posted on 12/18/2010 5:20:47 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: dsrtsage

The Ohio turnpike was built before the Interstate System was started (As I recall). Montana would have a tough time building I-90/94 without Federal help.


18 posted on 12/18/2010 5:39:49 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
When you build a toll road, you have to provide service that’s worth the money, thank G*d!

Unless you have an effective monopoly on the route. To wit, the Pennsylvania Turnpike, the highways in the Chicago suburbs (especially 90, 94, 290, 294, 55, 355), and the bridges around NYC (try $7+ for the Verrazano).
19 posted on 12/18/2010 6:10:21 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: dsrtsage

Interstates are funded and maintained in four ways:

Toll roads, that mostly predate the Interstate Highway System and were grandfathered into it.

Chargeable Interstate Highways, the 42,000 miles which form the heart of the system in the 50 states, DC, and Puerto Rico.* They are financed by the Federal government via gas taxes and the like.

Non-Chargeable interstates that are financed solely by the states, but are numbered as part of the system.

A small number of roads or parts of roads that are maintained by municipal authorities.

*Several states have unsigned Interstates. They are signed as state or US highways but financed as part of the system. All four of Alaska’s (Interstates A1-A4) and all three of Puerto Rico’s (Interstates PR1-PR3) are part of the system, but not built to Interstate standards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System


20 posted on 12/18/2010 7:47:22 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If it’s anything like the Pa. Turnpike, going 70 could be dangerous - awfully hard to avoid the potholes.


21 posted on 12/18/2010 8:17:20 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Wanna learn humility? Become a Pittsburgh Pirates fan!)
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To: unspun
"once, on the way to the March for Life, 1993...."

Maryland loves me, 93 same as yours,
Was it 89 or 90?, March for Justice? The first one.
Forget the year, House Managers Dinner.
Bush's first inaugeration.

All in a Mercurry Tracer.

22 posted on 12/18/2010 8:25:43 PM PST by AGreatPer (Voting for the crazy conservative gave us Ronald Reagan....Ann Coulter)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Tolerance Sucks Rocks.
Eliminating the turnpike's split speed limit, under which trucks and private buses were restricted to 55 mph while other vehicles could go 65, in 2004 was effective at luring truckers to the toll road, "and I'm hoping we can get another 15 to 20 percent of them off" the side roads by going to 70, Mr. Kidston said Friday.

23 posted on 12/19/2010 5:57:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

They’re a little slow on the uptake. I spent the entire time that I drove from California to northeastern Ohio on I-80 going 80 MPH.

There are plenty of police officers keeping an eye on the traffic. I saw one guy who was driving like a jerk and going at least 20 MPH faster than the rest of us.

Drove right by him while he was getting a ticket, too. Going 80.


24 posted on 12/19/2010 7:02:54 PM PST by TheOldLady ("Face it, Obama: You, too, were a useful idiot." - Lazamataz, who would hit it...with a brick.)
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To: TheOldLady

My favorite is how the OK turnpike toll-takers look at the entrance time and remark, “you’ve made good time today”. ;’)


25 posted on 12/19/2010 7:22:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Big Brother is watching you, and first chance he gets, he’s going to make you pay extra.


26 posted on 12/20/2010 4:06:51 AM PST by TheOldLady ("Face it, Obama: You, too, were a useful idiot." - Lazamataz, who would hit it...with a brick.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

PIgs are flying out my window!

Reading the headline, I thought that they would be lowering it in order to increase revenues.


27 posted on 12/20/2010 4:09:17 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Seeking Polly Benedict)
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