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DHS to check, control your home energy use as an item of National Security
WRKO radio | 12/20/10

Posted on 12/20/2010 12:30:33 PM PST by pabianice

Heard on car radio. Janet Napolitano has announced that since energy use is "a matter of national security," the DHS is setting in place a system to check on individuals' hone use of electricity, esp. ensuring that no light bulbs be incandescent in 2012. Good news for companies that sell remote-monitoring energy meters I guess. Obama is doubling-down again; intends to use executive authority to impose his rule.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: dhs; homelandsecurity; lightbulbs; nannystate; napolitano; obamunism; wikileakswasoktho
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1 posted on 12/20/2010 12:30:36 PM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

I’m hoping that’s a rumor - anybody else heard it?


2 posted on 12/20/2010 12:32:56 PM PST by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: pabianice

Yes, and child nutrition is matter of national security, so they said, because childhood eating habits lead to early obesity which can hurt of troops’ ability to perform...

Ve are ALL cannonfodder now.


3 posted on 12/20/2010 12:33:22 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: pabianice

I did a Google search and can’t find anything on this. If this is, in fact, true our freedom is farther gone than we thought.


4 posted on 12/20/2010 12:36:49 PM PST by MNGal
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To: a fool in paradise

On “Two Weeks of Hell” did anyone see the guts on some of those SF candidates?

Marrone!


5 posted on 12/20/2010 12:37:06 PM PST by rahbert
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To: pabianice
I'm hoping to get one of those new-fangled militarized homos to bunk in our house so we all follow the law.

If the military homos are stretched thin, I'll take a militarized homo cop in a pinch.

6 posted on 12/20/2010 12:37:49 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: a fool in paradise; Wicket

Yes, well, everything is deemed to fall under the umbrella of national security, hence everything can be deemed to fall under federal control.


7 posted on 12/20/2010 12:37:49 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... Iowa 61)
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To: pabianice

Die Amerikanische Reich hat gesprochen.


8 posted on 12/20/2010 12:38:40 PM PST by bcsco
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To: pabianice

Janet:Get a warrant WENCH!!!!!


9 posted on 12/20/2010 12:39:26 PM PST by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: ArmyTeach

And what isn’t a matter of national security, can be controlled by the Commerce Clause < /sarc >


10 posted on 12/20/2010 12:39:31 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: pabianice

Please, somebody get Incompetano a nice vibrator so she can occupy herself without screwing up the country.


11 posted on 12/20/2010 12:40:00 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Wicket

This is the closest thing I’ve heard on it so far:

Napolitano Says DHS to Begin Battling Climate Change as Homeland Security Issue

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/napolitano-says-dhs-begin-battling-clima


12 posted on 12/20/2010 12:40:55 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: a fool in paradise

Or the “good and welfare clause” (just ask John Conyers)

/sarc


13 posted on 12/20/2010 12:42:08 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: pabianice

*whine*


14 posted on 12/20/2010 12:46:10 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Merry Christmas!)
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To: pabianice

We used to venture this on the smoking threads as one of the next areas for goobermint invasion of our spaces in a tongue in cheek fashion.

Now, once the concept of coercive energy use and conservation is enshrined, is your plate the next target?

Your plate has a carbon quotient of 155, hence you owe your local Municipal Nutritional Authority a further USD25.


15 posted on 12/20/2010 12:46:10 PM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: pabianice

Two words I have begun to hate:
1. Emergency
2. Security


16 posted on 12/20/2010 12:46:35 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: pabianice

I’ll light and heat my house with my arc-welder if I choose to do so. This so-called ‘government’ is getting waaaay out of hand.


17 posted on 12/20/2010 12:46:53 PM PST by panaxanax (IMPEACH THE MUSLIM MARXIST....NOW!!!)
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To: a fool in paradise

National Security....the new Commerce Clause


18 posted on 12/20/2010 12:49:49 PM PST by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: pabianice

BITS soon, very soon.


19 posted on 12/20/2010 12:50:32 PM PST by SERKIT (We need more of Barry's "Wet Diaper" news conferences. He gets smaller and smaller each time.....)
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To: a fool in paradise
And what isn’t a matter of national security, can be controlled by the Commerce Clause < /sarc >

I wouldn't be too quick with that sarc tag. If the individual mandate on health insurance stands up in court, it's not a far leap at all to see the government requiring us to purchase an IP-addressed monitoring system to observe and control energy use, as well as a GPS tracker for our vehicles.

20 posted on 12/20/2010 12:52:42 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: pabianice

WHISKEY
TANGO
FOXTROT

OVER


21 posted on 12/20/2010 12:53:37 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: seowulf

That is a very thoughtful post, and I think you are exactly right. Now that there is pushback on the Obamacare plan based on the edge of the commerce clause, the national government is invoking national security to expand its powers into all sorts of areas that historically had nothing to do with that aspect of governmental authority.

I think we’ll see a lot more of that this year.


22 posted on 12/20/2010 12:53:53 PM PST by Piranha (Obama won like Bernie Madoff attracted investors: by lying about his values, policy and plans.)
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To: Wicket; All

I haven’t heard anything but I’ve been informed that there is a rush on in Mississippi’s southern counties (Coast Electric Power Association) to install the remote accessible power meters. I would think that would be a precursor to exercising some control over individual power consumption. I know a person who works for Coast EPA at a fairly high level and, when I see him again, will see what I can learn.


23 posted on 12/20/2010 12:54:51 PM PST by davisfh (Islam is a mental illness with global social consequences)
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To: ScottinVA

Sarcasm, satire and irony are well, oh so Twentieth Century.

You cannot satirise our upcoming dystopic reality.

As many Health and Green and other Control Freaks have claimed, both liberal and even conservative, rights and liberty are simply obstacles when they impede the public good and welfare.

RIP. We blew it, Ben.


24 posted on 12/20/2010 12:56:17 PM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: pabianice

Going to have a difficult time “controlling” home energy use when the stated PLAN is to have citizens using even MORE home energy, charging cars whenever they are not in use.


25 posted on 12/20/2010 12:57:45 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: davisfh

We had that some rush in suburban Chicago some months ago. They were polite but very firm.


26 posted on 12/20/2010 12:59:53 PM PST by Piranha (Obama won like Bernie Madoff attracted investors: by lying about his values, policy and plans.)
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To: pabianice

I’m going to stock up on light bulbs that last for 25,000 hours. If you use them for about seven hours a day on average they’ll last a little less than ten years.

You can get them here from this company that sells supplies primarily to the hospitality industry.

http://www.nathosp.com/product/25k19_c/standard_incandescent_light_bulbs


27 posted on 12/20/2010 1:01:35 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Lazamataz

Oh, come ON, Laz, you can’t be against this when yesterday you were for the CALM act, a Federal Govt effort to reduce TV advertising volume.

If you agreed with that, you should be gungho for this entirely sensible and reasonable measure.


28 posted on 12/20/2010 1:04:00 PM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: pabianice

this has to be a joke. otherwise all of our freedoms are gone.


29 posted on 12/20/2010 1:04:41 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: swarthyguy
I'm for regulating by federal mandate, the shape, weight, and color of your poop.

But only YOUR poop.

30 posted on 12/20/2010 1:08:40 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: pabianice

So is she going to come into our homes to see what lightbulbs we are using?

Is she going to buy the expensive ones if we can’t afford them? Is she going to pay for the cleanup if one of those nasty bulbs breaks?


31 posted on 12/20/2010 1:09:00 PM PST by dforest
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To: Wicket

Our city councilman here in San Antonio is having a town hall meeting to talk about the neat-o new digital thermostat I can get for free that establishes “two-way communication” between City Public Service and my home system.

I’m going: not only no, but HELL, no!

Colonel, USAFR


32 posted on 12/20/2010 1:09:18 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Lazamataz

Sierra
November
Alpha
Foxtrot
Uniform

Un-effin’-believable, ain’t it, Laz?

Colonel, USAFR


33 posted on 12/20/2010 1:11:45 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Lazamataz

And of course, a reasoned, intelligent answer delightfully enhanced by your reference to poop.

Well, Laz, you shit, eat shit.


34 posted on 12/20/2010 1:14:17 PM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: pabianice

Collect enough bulbs to last through 2016, just in case the commie gets re-elected!


35 posted on 12/20/2010 1:18:01 PM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: davisfh
It is all about getting rid of sub contract labor to read the meters. Too many just estimate the reading and never get out of their car... too many bills have to be corrected... it will save them major bucks.

LLS

36 posted on 12/20/2010 1:24:03 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: davisfh

I haven’t heard anything but I’ve been informed that there is a rush on in Mississippi’s southern counties (Coast Electric Power Association) to install the remote accessible power meters.
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Here in Texas we received information on this (pamphlet with our power bill). It also said that they would control the power during peak times.

I say *NO* and I will resist, things are going too far.


37 posted on 12/20/2010 1:25:46 PM PST by Irenic
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To: pabianice

Bump for later...


38 posted on 12/20/2010 1:34:16 PM PST by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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To: pabianice

Glenn Beck mentioned something about this and when DHS was questioned about it they said that it would help track illegal electricity usage - when asked for clarity they said “you know, like if someone came to your home and plugged in a vacuum cleaner without your consent.”

No joke.


39 posted on 12/20/2010 1:37:19 PM PST by 30Moves
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To: beethovenfan
somebody get Incompetano a nice vibrator so she can occupy herself without screwing up the country.
40 posted on 12/20/2010 1:37:39 PM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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A goal of obama's marxist group and the smart grid. Former EPA head and now energy czar Carol Browner, (socialist party member) Because they can't get cap and tax passed it is not a security issue they will force. “We need to make sure that …[e]ventually, we can get to a system where an electric company will be able [sic] to hold back some of the power so that maybe your air conditioner won’t operate at its peak, you’ll still be able to cool your house, but that’ll be a savings to the consumer.” http://forum.pressdemocrat.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=876
41 posted on 12/20/2010 1:43:13 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: swarthyguy

“smoking threads”

Smoking man was my favorite X-File guy.


42 posted on 12/20/2010 1:46:09 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Lazamataz

Makers Mark
Argentine
Quickstep


43 posted on 12/20/2010 1:47:29 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

Heck, the Bills never won the SuperBowl, did they?


44 posted on 12/20/2010 1:47:52 PM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: pabianice
Janet Napolitano has announced that since energy use is "a matter of national security,"...

Something for those who wish for another World War 2 to mull over. If the real thing comes down, and those people are in charge, guess who's going to be waltzing into the Rationing Board and telling y'all what you're going to be giving up.

45 posted on 12/20/2010 1:48:23 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: LibLieSlayer
It is all about getting rid of sub contract labor to read the meters.

Is that part of 0bama's Federal Job Elimination Program?

46 posted on 12/20/2010 1:49:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: pabianice
Any citizen may be exempted from Homeland Security Energy Monitoring if they agree to shelter a Mexican Illegal Alien in their home.

Application forms are available at all Mexican Consulates.

47 posted on 12/20/2010 1:53:17 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: TigersEye
I don't think so... I was talking to a person that works for the Southern Company that owns Mississippi Power and I see their sub contractors on occasion... and some months they don't read my meter... and I have had to get my bill corrected because of this. This was started before obama came into office.

LLS

48 posted on 12/20/2010 1:57:59 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: TigersEye

I don’t think so... I was talking to a person that works for the Southern Company that owns Mississippi Power and I see their sub contracters on occassion... and some months they don’t read my meter... and I have to get my bill checked when it exactly the same as last month. This was started before obama came into office.

LLS


49 posted on 12/20/2010 1:59:29 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: beethovenfan
Please, somebody get Incompetano a nice vibrator so she can occupy herself without screwing up the country.

This one is made in Russia, so it should be perfect for her.

50 posted on 12/20/2010 2:03:40 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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