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Do you know there are AA gun site on top of buildings downtown Seoul?
ROK(South Korea) Armed Forces pics and videos ^

Posted on 01/02/2011 7:17:53 PM PST by shutwho

as you know, the Korean war is not ended untill now, technically speaking. so there are things that people think not fair or odd in peace time. AA gun site on top of buildings downtown Seoul is one of them.

for more details, visit the source URL(my blog). please note that my writings in English is not smooth.





TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 20mm; antiaircraft; commonknowledge; korea; m167; vulcan

1 posted on 01/02/2011 7:17:56 PM PST by shutwho
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To: shutwho

Damn, that would be a fun job!


2 posted on 01/02/2011 7:20:13 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: shutwho
There are anti-aircraft missile batteries on duty throughout the Washington DC Metropolitan area.

Just the other day the jet fighters took off from the nearby airfield and went cruising out to slow down/stop a plane approaching the Capitol Building.

SHOOK THE HOUSE!

So, AA batteries in Seoul ~ OK ~ sounds like a good idea.

That means we aren't the only guys on the front lines.

3 posted on 01/02/2011 7:20:53 PM PST by muawiyah (Hey,)
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To: KoRn; shutwho
Damn, that would be a fun job!

I don't know about that, it has to be pretty cold up there this time of the year.

4 posted on 01/02/2011 7:22:41 PM PST by Doofer
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To: shutwho

Your country is very smart to be wary and plan.

I truly hope the North doesn’t do anything crazy.

I think China (the real enemy) is not ready to take on the West — the cost may be too high.

NK will back down after they have finished with their machismo posturing.

If not, our next President will back you, assuming it isn’t the current one.


5 posted on 01/02/2011 7:23:19 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: shutwho
And Washington DC, and Moskova, Russia, and in Paris, France, and .......

Politicians seem to be a nervous bunch. Don't understand why, if they aren't doing anything wrong.

/johnny

6 posted on 01/02/2011 7:23:41 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: shutwho

It makes perfect sense to me.


7 posted on 01/02/2011 7:25:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: KoRn

not that funny!

It’s like in prison cells you can’t go outside the AA gun site for 3 MONTHS except leaves.

It’s very hot in the summer, da— cold in the winter.


8 posted on 01/02/2011 7:27:17 PM PST by shutwho
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To: Doofer
it has to be pretty cold up there this time of the year.

If you wear a uniform, there are two temperatures. Too hot and too cold.

The weather NEVER favors the infantry.

/johnny

9 posted on 01/02/2011 7:29:16 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: shutwho

No, but I can’t say I’m surprised.


10 posted on 01/02/2011 7:32:50 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: shutwho

How tall is that building? It looks like it is 200 stores high or on a mountain. The buildings below look 3,000 feet lower.


11 posted on 01/02/2011 7:33:12 PM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: shutwho

“Hi, I’m Kim, and I’m an artilleryman.”
“HI, KIM!!!”


12 posted on 01/02/2011 7:34:21 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Frantzie

it’s 63-story building


13 posted on 01/02/2011 7:35:31 PM PST by shutwho
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To: shutwho

There are Patriot Missile Batteries around DC.

Seoul would be the main target of NK if a war breaks out, although I am not sure its air forces would be all that effective.


14 posted on 01/02/2011 7:36:33 PM PST by GeronL
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To: JRandomFreeper

I bet some Kim Che and Hot Pot will warm you up.


15 posted on 01/02/2011 7:37:56 PM PST by dila813
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To: shutwho
I would consider it odd if there were not gun emplacements.

Wars only ends when one side decisively loses.

16 posted on 01/02/2011 7:40:51 PM PST by mmercier
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To: dila813
Throw in a little soju and I'll go back in a heartbeat.

And I do love me some kim chee. Nothing better to keep one regular.

/johnny

17 posted on 01/02/2011 7:41:36 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: shutwho

18 posted on 01/02/2011 7:43:56 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: JRandomFreeper

you were USFK in the past?


19 posted on 01/02/2011 7:45:27 PM PST by shutwho
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To: Jet Jaguar

it’s not OPSEC. dont’ worry about that.


20 posted on 01/02/2011 7:48:04 PM PST by shutwho
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To: muawiyah

those are towed vulcan 20mm AA guns.


21 posted on 01/02/2011 7:50:28 PM PST by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: shutwho
I'm certainly not USFK in the present.

But I have been to Korea without a passport.

/johnny

22 posted on 01/02/2011 7:51:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: shutwho

2d Inf Div - Tong Du Chon Vet here. My admiration for Koreans is very great given what they face. I am very concerned about the next few months there. I hope that someday the North Korean government collapses and you can rescue the people in the North though it won’t be asy.


23 posted on 01/02/2011 7:52:33 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I got you.


24 posted on 01/02/2011 7:52:55 PM PST by shutwho
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To: GeronL

Don’t think there are any more possibilities in modern warfare for suprise attacks.


25 posted on 01/02/2011 7:55:12 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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To: shutwho

Of course not.

I have been to Kunsan, Osan, Deajon, Suwon, Panmunjon, Pusan, Iteawon, Munsan, and Imjin.

Nobody worries about OPSEC anymore.


26 posted on 01/02/2011 7:55:38 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: shutwho
it’s not OPSEC. dont’ worry about that.

Because everyone that's a bad guy tells you when he's running an OPSEC scam. As if sign-up dates weren't a fat first clue.

/johnny

27 posted on 01/02/2011 7:55:42 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I should have added a sarcasm tag to my post.


28 posted on 01/02/2011 7:57:28 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: EQAndyBuzz
You would be wrong. There's still a place for horse cav. Small place, but a place.

/johnny

29 posted on 01/02/2011 7:57:36 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: shutwho

After 11 Sep there should have been AA gun emplacements in New York City... and boy would there have been a different outcome to Obama’s unannounced low-altitude buzzing of NYC in Air Force 1!


30 posted on 01/02/2011 8:00:08 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
NYC had AA emplacements during WWII.

/johnny

31 posted on 01/02/2011 8:02:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: shutwho

I suspected, but didn’t envision gas-masked snipers. A North Korean attack on Seoul will be attempted by artillery - that’s all they have.


32 posted on 01/02/2011 8:06:51 PM PST by NightOfTheLivingDems
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To: freedumb2003
China will never be ready since they have to pass through India first, not to mention Japan, Vietnam and Taiwan.
I have a feeling that Bill Richardson brought this to Kim Chia Pet

33 posted on 01/02/2011 8:16:20 PM PST by mewykwistmas
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To: bravo whiskey

You betcha...M167A1 ‘Vulcan’ cannons. 20mm, max rate of fire is 3000 RPM. Of course, that would destroy all six barrels, and the ammo bin only holds 500 rounds...but theoretically...

regards,


34 posted on 01/02/2011 8:23:38 PM PST by Thunder 6
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To: JRandomFreeper
On a official tour of DC a few yrs back I learned an interesting story...

Seems during WW2 one of our guys was manning a rooftop AA gun near the Lincoln Memorial...In an effort to impress his girlfriend by letting her sit in his lap while manning the gun ...She mistakenly launched a blast that took out “Massachusetts” on the Lincoln Memorial facade..

It was immediately hushed up and classified as Top Secret and not declassified in till years later!..I think in the 70’s

(the final plight of the poor solider was unknown!

35 posted on 01/02/2011 8:33:36 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: shutwho

Here is why the SK buildings have AA forces on top of buildings.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?162240-Bluffer-s-Guide-North-Korea-strikes!-%282009%29


36 posted on 01/02/2011 8:45:56 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: shutwho

My nephew has stood guard many very, very cold nights at the DMZ. There is no peace in Korea.


37 posted on 01/02/2011 8:48:18 PM PST by righttackle44
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To: shutwho

I have more confidence if a ROK unit were to my flank than some Euro army.

They still live under a real threat and don’t see their military as a costly joke or social laboratory (Which even we in the US have). Of all our allies, the ROK army is one of the better ones and their troops are well trained, highly disciplined (unlike even our guys that can’t even clean their own room anymore).

Because the threat and military hardware/presence, actually makes investment flee the country and hurts their image, they casually downplay just how bunkered up, stock piled, massive reserve forces, pre-marked targets, pre wired and set up bridges (demo)......they really are. South Korea is armed to its teeth! They are entirely defensive, but realistically if the North were to invade, they cannot realistically expect to win in terms of taking and holding ground. There is more crap cached, stuff that is undisclosed, bunkers and hardened buildings that are concealed or look like beautiful fountains disguised etc in that place per mile than probably even in Israel, and I’ve been to both.

The North blackmails the South with the threat of war but realistically the North isn’t capable of taking the South unless others come to the Norths aid. However, a war like the one the North threatens with (massive rocket and artillery fire where collateral damage is the intent!) would mean an end to the prosperity in the South and the cost of war or even it’s threat as of late is so immense that the South as others pay the blackmail or cave in. A good defense of the South is a pyrrhic scenario. The North with nothing to loose bets on the pragmatism, good will and level-headedness of the South to essentially extort their existence with threats of mutual destruction. But no, the North won’t penetrate into the South very far, I can’t see that happening.


38 posted on 01/02/2011 8:55:22 PM PST by Red6
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To: shutwho

Flew through Seoul once and was amazed that as we flew along how many guns were aimed at us despite the MARINES on the side of our aircraft.


39 posted on 01/02/2011 8:57:41 PM PST by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!)
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To: shutwho

Thanks, I can get my hands on 10 AAA’s, but the Ammo is light.


40 posted on 01/02/2011 8:58:08 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: usmcobra

they do it to ROK aircrafts, too.


41 posted on 01/02/2011 9:07:36 PM PST by shutwho
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To: All

my expression, “so there are things that people think not fair or odd in peace time”, was about the construction budget of AA site on top of a building. the Army doesn’t spent any penny. the building owner pays it all.


42 posted on 01/02/2011 9:26:16 PM PST by shutwho
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To: shutwho
I almost didn't see them with the camouflage and all.
43 posted on 01/02/2011 9:52:58 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: shutwho; TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo

The second picture is stunning. I am impressed!


44 posted on 01/02/2011 10:40:11 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Check out all the pictures on the link - they are amazing. 63 stories up. One of the pictures towards the bottom was amazing.


45 posted on 01/02/2011 11:07:07 PM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: shutwho; TigerLikesRooster

Thanks Shutwho. Ping to SK info


46 posted on 01/03/2011 2:48:42 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus - Domari Nolo)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“You would be wrong. There’s still a place for horse cav. Small place, but a place.”

If the Mongolians want to take Boston by horseback, more power to them.


47 posted on 01/03/2011 5:05:18 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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To: shutwho
I was stationed at Osan Air Base ROK ‘92-'93. Kinda blew me away when I rode around the wire and there were manned bunkers everywhere. I was young and new to the military and just never thought about it.
48 posted on 01/03/2011 7:40:26 AM PST by Hotmetal (An Irishman is not too drunk if he can hold on to a blade of grass and not fall from earth.)
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To: shutwho
...my writings in English is not smooth.

Lots of us have that problem.

;^)

49 posted on 01/03/2011 7:58:55 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty too! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: freedumb2003
I think China (the real enemy) is not ready to take on the West — the cost may be too high.

With the current administration, how high could the cost be? They'd have to host The One on an apology tour!

50 posted on 01/03/2011 8:01:18 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty too! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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