Posted on 01/03/2011 1:38:47 PM PST by Lmo56
Arizona state politicians will introduce model legislation this week to encourage states to prevent children of illegal immigrants from being granted citizenship under the 14th Amendment.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
God bless em.
sfl
The question is, are illegal immigrants, by entering the United States illegally, attempting to avoid being "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" ? If that's the case, then they aren't covered by the 14th amendment.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Too bad this story isn’t in the past tense.
We, sir, are blessed. Thank God for the super majority recently obtained in the TX state House of Reps.
Now we might actually get something done. Illegal immigration and the second Texas/ Mexican war is being talked about daily.
Now, if we can get that dolt RINO of a Governor to sign it, our actions will truly speak louder than our words.
From where I sit, surrounded by mental flat-liners, I can only watch with envy.
You mean Gov. Good Hair is not a true supporter of the TEA Party?/s
LOL.... Even the implication of such is too funny.
Round up enough states and you can amend the Constitution.
That is EXACTLY my point ...
The Wong Kim Ark Case [1898] concerned a child of LEGAL immigrants and the Court cited heavily from Calvin's Case [1607] in England. It stated that children of aliens born within the realm WERE natural-born subjects.
But, Calvin's Case also stated that children of enemies COULD NOT be natural-born subjects. And, an enemy [in 1607] was anyone residing within the realm WITHOUT the express permission of the Sovreign. Which is the case with children born to illegal immigrants ...
Ping!
Two thirds of fifty seven?
Prolly.
“and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”
Subject: to owe allegiance to.
The correct reading of this 1868 wording IS ALL PERSONS BORN OR NATURALIZED IN THE UNITED STATES WHO OWE THEIR ALLEGIANCE TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF ARE CITIZENS.
Liberals have been trying for a long time to change the original intent of the 14th to allow the children of illegals to have automatic citizenship. Granting citizenship to the children is only a government policy, not a law.
If Arizona enacts such a law first this gives illegal aliens a strong incentive to burden Texas hospitals with their babies and all the expenses that entails. What illegal alien has ever paid for this? Never happens
Also gives illegal aliens incentives to not live in Arizona at all. This further burdens Texas and other states with these parasites
So all in all by being first to pass anti-birthright law might push other states to emulate Arizona
Legal immigrants, sure.
But I think one of the blessings for the US is that those born on US soil are considered citizens of the US. This isn’t true in other countries.
I’m not sure how you can work it to be fair to the child, who has done nothing wrong, and ought to be entitled to American citizenship.
Is it the child’s fault that they were born in America? No. Is it the status of the child that is at stake here? Yes. So why are we punishing the child?
Give the child American citizenship, and give the parents two options. 1, deportation en masse to their home country, or two, placing their child up for adoption to an American family.
It is not punishment. It is just not a award. Either to the child or its parents.
Fruit of the poisonous tree - people should not be able to benefit from their crimes. If the child is declared to be United States citizen, per current law, he is entitled to sponsor [at age 18] his entire family [and extended family] to become U.S. citizens ...
So, even if you deport the parents, 18 years later, they benefit [as well as his aunts, uncles, cousins, etc.] ...
So why should the child be rewarded for their parents’ crime?
Lets assume my parents were to rob a bank, but then they gave all the money to me. Should I be allowed to keep that money? I didn’t rob the bank...
There are specific measures specifically designed for lawful immigration. Someone should not be granted US Citizenship simply because their parents claim they were born here, or they were born here. Children of visiting dignitaries/embassy staff aren’t given citizenship (that I know of) and they’re here legally. So why should some illegal alien’s kid be given that reward?
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