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Report on autism was falsified
ABC ^ | 12:45 AM 1/6/11

Posted on 01/06/2011 3:59:54 AM PST by DBCJR

Controversial research claiming a link between the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine and autism has already been discredited, but now the researcher behind the study is accused of making up the data.

Dr. Andrew Wakefield made the link between the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine and the development of autism.

He claimed, after studying 12 children, eight showed behavioral symptoms, 6.3 days after being vaccinated for MMR.

The report caused parents worldwide to stop vaccinating their children. Wakefield's theory was de-bunked in 2009. Now, the prominent British Medical Journal calls Wakefield's study an elaborate fraud.

"I think what Dr. Wakefield did was a moral crime, if not an actual crime," said Brian Deer from the British Medical Journal.

The journal claims Wakefield falsified data, saying some children got sick after the vaccination, when they really didn't.

... The journal also claims Wakefield was paid $750,000 by lawyers who planned to sue the makers of the measles vaccine.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: autism; lisaamingulezian; vaccines
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Kind of reminds me of the global warming science and Algore's carbon credit exchange, huh?
1 posted on 01/06/2011 3:59:57 AM PST by DBCJR
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To: DBCJR
This is regurgitated lies. The MSM kowtows to big pharma, and they keep repeating lies to make us believe them. See Andy's book, Callous Disregard.
2 posted on 01/06/2011 4:08:44 AM PST by eens (beware the errors of Russia)
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To: DBCJR
Scientists and politicians... the two groups of the biggest lying, cheating and thieving wh0res in the world.

LLS

3 posted on 01/06/2011 4:09:48 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: eens

Please tell me you forgot the /SAR label or your tinfoil hat is on too tight?

Vaccines are safe. There are few reactions such as Guillain-Barre syndrome.

My wife and I both work in the field and know they are safe. Our 8 week old is getting 4 vaccinations today.


4 posted on 01/06/2011 4:12:48 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: TSgt
... your tinfoil hat is on too tight?

An irrefutable scientific reply, TSgt. That's just what they gave to Andy (read the book). I can't wait until science wins. The lawsuits against pharma will make the tobacco suits look like nickles and dimes.

5 posted on 01/06/2011 4:39:10 AM PST by eens (beware the errors of Russia)
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To: DBCJR

Getting paid that much by lawyers is not helping his case.


6 posted on 01/06/2011 4:39:56 AM PST by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: TSgt
Our 8 week old is getting 4 vaccinations today.

OMG NNNNNOOOOoooooooo!!!

Please, I beseech you!!! Please read up... or listen to... or watch on youtube what pre-emininte scientists Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey before you doom your precious child to a life of autism, monsterism, unnecessary screaming, uncontrollable grocery shopping, and hockey hair.

7 posted on 01/06/2011 4:40:18 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: eens

My comment was mainly directed at the double standard of MSM reporting when it comes to liberal agenda issues.


8 posted on 01/06/2011 4:43:42 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: eens

Actually your Andy is a sinister murderer with blood on his hands as his lies have induced credulous fools not to vaccinate their kids who later died.

The only good thing to come out of this mess is that the kids more likely to die are the one of parents who believed these lies. So less idiots will reproduce!

Beside this, I hope he ends his life in jail.


9 posted on 01/06/2011 4:45:27 AM PST by Michel12
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To: TSgt
He claimed, after studying 12 children, eight showed behavioral symptoms, 6.3 days after being vaccinated for MMR.

How did such a small sampling gain any credibility at all? Perhaps it is the same as the DDT, tobacco, lead, and asbestos scares when lefties and then politicians demonized a product so that their handmaidens, the trial lawyers, could swoop in and make a killing. The lawyers then laundered some of the money back to the politicians.

10 posted on 01/06/2011 4:47:11 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: TSgt

This is just as it must be. I cannot fathom the fools who discard one of the greatest achievement of modern medicine in the name of half baked beliefs.


11 posted on 01/06/2011 4:47:52 AM PST by Michel12
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To: eens
An irrefutable scientific reply, TSgt. That's just what they gave to Andy (read the book). I can't wait until science wins. The lawsuits against pharma will make the tobacco suits look like nickles and dimes.

Allow me to be a little more scientific for you. My wife is a clinical pharmacist and I work in the pharma research field for an independent, non-big pharma company. I also have a shot record from the military that is a mile long with too many vaccinations to count. I've never had any ill effects and rarely get sick.

Vaccines are safe.
12 posted on 01/06/2011 5:00:22 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: TSgt

Does the MMR vaccine use aboprted human embryo tissue?


13 posted on 01/06/2011 5:00:31 AM PST by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: frogjerk

Aborted


14 posted on 01/06/2011 5:03:56 AM PST by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: TSgt

Vaccines are definitely necessary and more than meet the risks/benefits criteria. All 5 of my children have been vaccinated. My wife and I also work in healthcare. The only reason some people can get away with not vaccinating their children is that, thankfully, those of us who do, keep the herd immunity high enough to prevent epidemics.


15 posted on 01/06/2011 5:17:11 AM PST by arkfreepdom
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To: DBCJR

Wakefield lied and children died. Facts. He deserves to be incarcerated.


16 posted on 01/06/2011 5:26:57 AM PST by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: TSgt
My wife and I both work in the field and know they are safe. Our 8 week old is getting 4 vaccinations today.

You heretic! Don't you know that vaccinations are the bane of our society?

I wish one of these people would answer the question as to why, if the vaccinations are the cause of autism, and EVERY child in the U.S. gets them why the rate is only about 1 in 250 for autism? Shouldn't the rate be MUCH higher is their claims were valid?

17 posted on 01/06/2011 5:54:03 AM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: eens

Rather than BIG PHARMA!!! you should be more afraid of BIG AMBULANCE-CHASING LAWYERS!!!, I suspect.


18 posted on 01/06/2011 5:59:05 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: raybbr

I have had family members tell me they won’t get the flu shot because it is a government mind control serum.

I tell them they are mistaking joining a union with the flu shot.

You can’t fix stupid...


19 posted on 01/06/2011 6:02:11 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: DBCJR

This will be a 5,000 post thread easily.


20 posted on 01/06/2011 6:03:24 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: DBCJR

I have often also wondered if the definition of autism was widened in order to cite more autism cases.


21 posted on 01/06/2011 6:03:58 AM PST by reaganator
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To: Michel12
Thank you!(for saying what I was about to).
22 posted on 01/06/2011 6:05:15 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: reaganator
Autism got money a few years ago and exploded. BTW at one point the number of “diagnosed” autistc kids equaled the dramatic drop in kids diagnosed as “retarded”. Just change the name and get some money. The sad fact is that many parents will not acknowledge that sometimes things go wrong. The VERY sad thinag is many will not acknowledge that they were drunk on their a$$ (or some other drug) at the time of conception which most likely has more bearing on child development in the womb than anything else.
23 posted on 01/06/2011 6:10:31 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: DBCJR

This is criminal. I’d love to know which lawyers paid him. Lock them all up!


24 posted on 01/06/2011 6:27:06 AM PST by lwd
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To: Owl_Eagle
lol....

I'm sure their child's autism has nothing to do with the vast amounts of narcotics (cocaine) they have both consumed.

25 posted on 01/06/2011 6:34:11 AM PST by lwd
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To: TSgt; Michel12
My wife and I both work in the field and know they are safe. Our 8 week old is getting 4 vaccinations today.

The imune system of an eight-week-old baby does not have the capacity to create effective antibodies. Your baby will derive no benefit whatsoever from the vaccines. Wait until your baby is much older before getting vaccines.

When my younger son was born, the hospital was actually pushing for vaccines 24 hours after birth. One of these was for Hep-B. My wife told them what to do with their vaccines. Why take a risk (and yes, there is always a risk) when there is absolutely no benefit. From a societal standpoint, the purpose of vaccines is to hamper the spread of disease. If everyone else in your family is immune to mumps, measles, etc., then your baby won't get them. If you come in contact with someone that has measles, the disease cannot use you to spread to others, thus reducing the probability of an epidemic. I urge you to wait until your kids are 5 years old before getting vaccines. At that point, their immune systems will be fully developed, and the vaccines will actually achieve the benefit which you desire.

26 posted on 01/06/2011 6:40:14 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Michel12
I cannot fathom the fools who discard one of the greatest achievement of modern medicine...
Me neither. A few years ago I did a family genealogy project (I'm from NYC), and while looking at US census reports (1850-1930) I noticed two columns of numbers.
The first column was the number of children born to the wife; the second column was number of children still living. That the gov't even asked tells you something.
But what truly amazed me was seeing sets of numbers like 12/3, 10/4, 7/2, etc. I always knew child mortality was high back then, but I really had no idea.

27 posted on 01/06/2011 6:51:25 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: TSgt

I wish someone could explain the huge rise of autism and autism umbrella disorders. I don’t remember anyone having them when I was a kid. Now, it is widespread. Personally, I only allowed my children to receive one or two vaccines at a time. I waited and made another appointment one month later. Too many “live buggies” traveling through a little system. I did allow the MMR vaccine but by itself. If vaccines are always safe, why does the pediatrician hand you a government form where you can receive compensation if something “goes wrong”? Just a thought.


28 posted on 01/06/2011 6:55:17 AM PST by momtothree
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To: oh8eleven
Child mortality was really high back then. However, it had little to do with the lack of vaccines. The main cause of death was the lack of antibiotics.
29 posted on 01/06/2011 7:18:19 AM PST by kara37
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To: Hoodat
The imune system of an eight-week-old baby does not have the capacity to create effective antibodies.

Thank you Dr. Hoodat MD
30 posted on 01/06/2011 7:20:52 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: momtothree
I wish someone could explain the huge rise of autism and autism umbrella disorders.

Better awareness and diagnosis of such disorders? Over diagnosis of "umbrella" disorders?
31 posted on 01/06/2011 7:22:38 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: TSgt
Thank you Dr. Hoodat MD

That's redundant. Please refer to me either as 'Dr. Hoodat' or 'Hoodat, M.D.', but not 'Dr. Hoodat, M.D.'.
Thanks.

32 posted on 01/06/2011 7:45:48 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Hoodat

From your uninformed opinion I highly doubt you are either Dr. or M.D..


33 posted on 01/06/2011 7:49:00 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: Hoodat

What a lot of stupidity.

Your child could get mumps from some people he meets even if you are vaccinated. Herd immunity exists because people are vaccinated, not because a stupid freeloader like you seem to want to be tries to peddle non-scientific ideas.


34 posted on 01/06/2011 7:50:52 AM PST by Michel12
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To: Pharmboy

Agreed...


35 posted on 01/06/2011 7:52:00 AM PST by Michel12
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To: Hoodat

Not all Dr’s are M.D.’s so that is hardly redundant.

I could call my boss “Dr. S” but I wouldn’t want him to try to operate on me.


36 posted on 01/06/2011 7:58:31 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: momtothree
I not only want to know about autism. I also want to know about all the auto immune diseases that were unheard of years ago.

I always found it funny that any article about the HPV vaccine given to young girls to prevent cervical cancer gets ripped apart here. There have been many articles about the damage that was being done to girls given this vaccine, and almost everyone agreed that these vaccines were dangerous and would never give it to their own daughter.

However, the same people will swear up and down about the safety of the rest of the vaccines on the market.

37 posted on 01/06/2011 8:00:45 AM PST by kara37
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To: momtothree
I wish someone could explain the huge rise of autism and autism umbrella disorders. I don’t remember anyone having them when I was a kid. Now, it is widespread.

I think it has something to do with the widespread proliferation of electromagnetic signals. A century ago, the airwaves were devoid of radio signals and television signals. Thirty-five years ago, there were no cellphone signals. Ten years ago, we didn't have WiFi. Today, we are being constantly bombarded with them.

38 posted on 01/06/2011 8:02:03 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Michel12
Freeloader? Not at all. I'm not saying, "don't get vaccinated". I just don't see the point in giving a Hep-B vaccine to a newborn infant.

Let's say that 5% of the population is made up of children under the age of 6 and 3% are children under the age of 4. Is there really a significant benefit to having 97% of the population vaccinated over having only 95% vaccinated? Seriously.

39 posted on 01/06/2011 8:11:12 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: TSgt
From your uninformed opinion I highly doubt you are either Dr. or M.D..

True, I am not a doctor. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

40 posted on 01/06/2011 8:16:23 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: kara37
However, it had little to do with the lack of vaccines. The main cause of death was the lack of antibiotics.
Is that right? What antibiotic cures polio?
And we all know that once someone gets treated with an antibiotic, they ALWAYS recover.
If you don't get measles, mumps, whooping cough, etc., in the first place, you don't need antibiotics.
41 posted on 01/06/2011 8:18:11 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Hoodat

Yes there is as herd immunity decreases a lot with each 1% less vaccinated.

And we are talking about MMR and polio at this age. Not twinrix,


42 posted on 01/06/2011 8:27:00 AM PST by Michel12
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To: LibLieSlayer

Scientists and politicians shrinks the three groups of the biggest lying, cheating and thieving wh0res in the world.
Gays to have wedding on staurday disagree.


43 posted on 01/06/2011 8:47:12 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: LibLieSlayer
Scientists and politicians... the two groups of the biggest lying, cheating and thieving wh0res in the world.

Um...sure. Scientists make(steal?) millions every day you know? A University position is an amazingly lucrative job opportunity unlike for example Banking or Lawyering[sic] and other similar poor professions... Clearly, the amazing progress in science over the last 100 years is a natural consequence of these thieving lying scum who make millions in their cushy university jobs....! A career in science is after all the easiest way to make money, and grad students get paid millions for toiling through 6 years of grad school before they even start their professional lives....

44 posted on 01/06/2011 9:42:40 AM PST by kroll
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To: oh8eleven
Where did I say antibiotics cures polio? Nor did I say that antibiotics work 100% of the time.

However, since your so interested in polio, lets make some comparisons,

1952 being the worst recorded epidemic of polio, 3,145 people in the United States died from polio. That same year over 20,000 died of tuberculosis.

In fact, according to the CDC in early part of the 1900's, the three leading causes of death were pneumonia, tuberculosis (TB), and diarrhea/enteritis.

I wonder what would have helped cure those three killers? Any guesses?

45 posted on 01/06/2011 11:04:37 AM PST by kara37
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To: Michel12
Yes there is as herd immunity decreases a lot with each 1% less vaccinated.

Could you please quantify that? Consider a herd of 10,000. If 97% are immunized, how many can be expected to contract the disease? Now do the same for only 95% being immunized. Assume population density of 250 per square mile.

46 posted on 01/06/2011 11:34:35 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: frogjerk

funny how your question got ignored.... love how people dismiss FACTS that don’t agree with their agenda. i will love to hear a pro-lifer defend the use of vaccinations that use aborted fetal tissue....


47 posted on 01/06/2011 11:50:16 AM PST by DrewsMum
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To: kara37
I wonder what would have helped cure those three killers?
You keep putting the cart in front of the horse.
Properly vaccinated children have little need for a cure.



It's smug know-it-alls like you who don't GAS
that 1000s of children suffer from preventable disease.

48 posted on 01/06/2011 12:30:36 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
>>Properly vaccinated children have little need for a cure.<<

Really, what vaccines cure pneumonia, tuberculosis (TB), and diarrhea/enteritis?

I said the MAIN reason for the high mortality rate was the lack of antibiotics, and because the three leading causes of deaths would have been mostly prevented by using antibiotics... I stand by my statement.

49 posted on 01/06/2011 1:26:24 PM PST by kara37
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To: kara37

“there have been many articles about the damage that was being done to girls...”

I have a close friend and cervical cancer runs in her family. A few years back, her doctor convinced her to get the vaccine for her daughter (a young teen). About three months ago, my friend called me very upset. The same doctor confided to her that they are finding a link between this vaccine and possible sterility. I looked online but it is in medical journals that I don’t have access to. I think that vaccines need to be cautiously looked at with respect to who is making them, what is in them, how they are stored, what research (long term) has been done etc... Each night when I watch a bit of television, a commercial pops up for a law firm that will sue for injury/death/for recent FDA approved medications. IMHO


50 posted on 01/06/2011 6:01:07 PM PST by momtothree
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