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Garbage (At Sea) : Another environmental claim proven to be hyped
Watts Up With That? ^ | January 6, 2011 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 01/06/2011 11:59:48 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

From Oregon State University:

Oceanic “garbage patch” not nearly as big as portrayed in media

CORVALLIS, Ore. – There is a lot of plastic trash floating in the Pacific Ocean, but claims that the “Great Garbage Patch” between California and Japan is twice the size of Texas are grossly exaggerated, according to an analysis by an Oregon State University scientist.

Further claims that the oceans are filled with more plastic than plankton, and that the patch has been growing tenfold each decade since the 1950s are equally misleading, pointed out Angelicque “Angel” White, an assistant professor of oceanography at Oregon State.

(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science
KEYWORDS: ocean; oceantrash

1 posted on 01/06/2011 11:59:55 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I thought that the “Great Garbage Patch” is where free Nike shoes come from.


2 posted on 01/06/2011 12:10:24 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Articles about this subject are usually accompanied by photographs of floating plastic bottles or bags. Then someone (either the author, or several of the commentators) inevitably declares something like “the plastic doesn't degrade for 1,000 years”.

Imagine if you could buy vinyl paint that didn't degrade for 1,000 years. Or, even if you could buy a Corvette that wouldn't degrade in 1,000 years. The simple fact is that plastics degrade very quickly in sunlight. The vast bulk of the plastic in the so-called “garbage patch” can't be seen with the naked eye. An honest photo of the patch would show clear, blue water — not flotsam and jetsam.

3 posted on 01/06/2011 12:13:52 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Again, another case where some fine print would have been nice. (The size is estimated)

However, I wonder if someone could please send some boats to collect that junk for once.


4 posted on 01/06/2011 12:15:10 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

FACTS - the turd in the punch bowl of liberal thought


5 posted on 01/06/2011 12:16:43 PM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There goes HER chance of getting tenure...


6 posted on 01/06/2011 12:17:08 PM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Yo-Yo

Compleet with feet...


7 posted on 01/06/2011 12:17:46 PM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Downgraded to (smaller than?) Texas for the messiah’s reign?

Three years ago with a Republican president it was twice the size of the continental United States.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/the-worlds-rubbish-dump-a-garbage-tip-that-stretches-from-hawaii-to-japan-778016.html


8 posted on 01/06/2011 12:19:52 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: lormand
Most of that stuff probably is from the Tsunami a couple years ago and got itself washed out to sea

After all-a quarter of a million people died and whole villages were washed out to sea If Liberals are supposed to be so smart why can't they figure this out?

9 posted on 01/06/2011 12:21:17 PM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: WayneS
Compleet with feet...

Oh yeah, forgot about the mystery feet! Remember the rubber duckies?


10 posted on 01/06/2011 12:22:08 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good article.


11 posted on 01/06/2011 12:23:16 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Interesting graphic. I've flown over the Pacific a number of times (west coast to Japan and back) and also been in a seagoing vessel once plus tracked cargo over the ocean hundreds of times.

Interestingly, ships and planes follow the Gulf Streams and seldom venture through or near the location shown as the garbage path.

Thus, it is a convenient theory precisely because it is so hard to disprove. Sort of like claiming there is a lost city on the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

12 posted on 01/06/2011 12:27:55 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Calculations show that the amount of energy it would take to remove plastics from the ocean is roughly 250 times the mass of the plastic itself;

Anybody have a clue what this means?

13 posted on 01/06/2011 12:30:19 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

“Some say...”, “Calculations show...” — whatever it takes to make us believe the president shouldn’t be held responsible for doing something about it, as compared to 3 years ago when we needed to DEMAND that the president of a major plastic-using country with a mess TWICE THE SIZE of that same country BETTER BE DOING SOMETHING about it.

It’s all about the political party of the president.


14 posted on 01/06/2011 12:40:49 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Another belief by enviromentalists a load of poo. More important information for the MSM to ignore.


15 posted on 01/06/2011 12:44:25 PM PST by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: lormand
I'm borrowing that for a little while lormand.
16 posted on 01/06/2011 12:44:25 PM PST by poobear (FACTS - the turd in the punch bowl of liberal thought!)
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To: Sherman Logan
Anybody have a clue what this means?

3250 Mexicans in canoes with dip nets.

17 posted on 01/06/2011 12:49:11 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well, now some professors can do a survey to prove how misinformed people are, based upon their source of news:

Question: The amount of plastic in the oceans covers an area twice the size of Texas. True or False?

New York Times readers: 89% True, 11% False.

Fox News listeners: 42% True, 58% False.

Free Republic participants: 0% True, 100% False.

Correct answer: False A recent study by Oregon State University found that the level of plastic in the oceans is less than 1% the size of Texas.

Resulting headlines (sarc): "Study shows New York Times readers more likely to be uninformed"
18 posted on 01/06/2011 1:19:25 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Sherman Logan

Mass and energy now have the same Units?

“Who are THEY who are so wise in the ways of science?


19 posted on 01/06/2011 1:24:17 PM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

ROFL!


20 posted on 01/06/2011 1:25:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Seems the plastic in question has been rendered unto microscopic particles diffused thru vast amounts of water. Yes there is trash out there, and it has an effect, but nowhere near the “collect it and build an island” stuff most people are thinking of.


21 posted on 01/06/2011 1:51:12 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Great children's books - http://www.UsborneBooksGA.com)
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To: WayneS

I understand mass can be converted to energy, but you generally don’t want to be in the vicinity when it happens.


22 posted on 01/06/2011 2:02:37 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

>>>>Calculations show that the amount of energy it would take to remove plastics from the ocean is roughly 250 times the mass of the plastic itself;

>>>Anybody have a clue what this means?

It means the author has no idea WTF they’re talking about so they’re pulling some ‘calculations’ out of their wazoo aperture.


23 posted on 01/06/2011 2:07:16 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: poobear

I’m honored...thanks.


24 posted on 01/07/2011 7:30:49 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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