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Robert Plant Opens Up About Led Zeppelin Reunion, Failed Follow-Up With Alison Krauss
Rolling Stone ^ | January 6, 2011 | Andy Greene

Posted on 01/07/2011 4:23:33 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

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To: ccmay
I saw Alison Krauss and Robert Plant in concert on the Raising Sand tour. It was a good concert but at times Plant seemed a bit distracted or out-of-place.

The funniest part was seeing all the Led Heads mixed in with the Bluegrass fans.

51 posted on 01/07/2011 8:18:24 PM PST by 5by5
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To: dennisw

I saw Plant about 5 years ago, and then saw him again with Alison Kraus a couple of years ago. He didn’t do any jumping around. Both of those shows were terrific.


52 posted on 01/07/2011 8:27:42 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 5by5

I think it can be fairly said that Alison Krauss carried that duo. Wish I could have seen it, though. Wonder if they will get back together in future.


53 posted on 01/07/2011 8:46:55 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Yes that was Jeff Beck.


54 posted on 01/07/2011 8:51:46 PM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: Frantzie
I remember the movie 'Blowup.'

"Who is the other guitarist destroying his guitar and Vox amp?"

That's Jeff Beck, isn't it?

55 posted on 01/07/2011 9:15:47 PM PST by blam
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To: submarinerswife

Yes .On his way to the bank . : )

He was a jazz drummer at heart . That said , he had fun ( just didn’t show it ) and was an intergral part of The Stones sound .

A famous anecdote relates that during the mid-1980s, an intoxicated Jagger phoned Watts’s hotel room in the middle of the night asking where “my drummer” was. Watts reportedly got up, shaved, dressed in a suit, put on a tie and freshly shined shoes, descended the stairs and punched Jagger in the face, saying: “Don’t ev...er call me your drummer again. You’re my fucking singer!”


56 posted on 01/07/2011 10:58:24 PM PST by sushiman
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To: dennisw

Yeah, the kids are alright, but they say the darndest things. I wonder if they’re still hoping . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=594WLzzb3JI


57 posted on 01/07/2011 11:32:28 PM PST by naturalized
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To: Lancey Howard

That was not Led Zepplin. Plant cannot do his Led Zepplin role at this age.


58 posted on 01/07/2011 11:45:05 PM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw

I understand. But you said something about him looking ridiculous “jumping around”. He didn’t do any “jumping around” - - he simply sung a whole lotta great songs, and I enjoyed the shows. He did do a few Zeppelin songs, and did them well. Matter of fact, he blew the audience away with a studio-similar rendition of ‘That’s The Way’. Naturally, he closed out with ‘Whole Lotta Love’, the first half being a slower, funkier version, and then about halfway through breaking out into the hard rock original version. Very cool. The concert with Alison Kraus was, naturally, mostly songs from ‘Raising Sand’. T Bone Burnett even got to do a couple of songs.

FRegards,
LH


59 posted on 01/08/2011 12:23:20 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Won’t argue with that but
I saw LedZep twice ~1969,1970. What disappointed me was how thin the songs sounded done live without double tracking organ, guitars etc. In an attempt to compensate for this thin sound the lead singer (Plant) was constantly moving, emoting, acting. But that was Zeps early days and maybe they found ways to beef up their live sound in later years

My point being that a large part of Zeps live sound was Robert Plant singing and behaving like a young rock god on stage. This is embarrassing and idiotic at 65 and this is why the 2007 Zep reunion was a one time affair. There would have been a tour except for R Plant.


60 posted on 01/08/2011 1:10:48 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: NUTS

This thread is a bad trip......bee gees good.....Zep and stones bad.........good God....beam me up keith


61 posted on 01/08/2011 1:28:47 AM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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To: dennisw
A few years ago I saw The Police, and it was one of the best concerts I ever had the pleasure to attend. Great seats, too, spitting distance from Sting. (And I, too, go way back. My first concert was a general admission "dance concert" at the Spectrum in Philly in 1970 ('71?) with Humble Pie, and Black Sabbath, opening for Mountain. A zillion more concerts followed, but I never saw Zep back then.)

Anyway, The Police did a full 2+ hour concert with just the three of them - - no side men at all - - and filled the place with music. I commented to my daughter afterwards how impressed I was with all the sound produced by just three guys. Not "thin" in the slightest, as I would have expected. By the way, the opening act for The Police was Elvis Costello, and he was terrific, too. Sting came out near the end of the set and sang 'Alison' with Elvis.

62 posted on 01/08/2011 1:54:37 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: jy8z

“The song, Taurus by Spirit...”

BTW, what LZ song would that have been if LZ had indeed plaguerized the above song by Spirit?

Also, what album by Spirit is “Taurus” from? I have quite a bit of Spirit and I don’t seem to recall what it sounds like.


63 posted on 01/08/2011 5:24:47 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Revolting cat!
Top right- looks like Alison Cammarota of Fox and Friends
64 posted on 01/08/2011 5:27:34 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Hotlanta Mike

“Was that Jeff Beck smashing up the amp and guitar?”

No, it was Jimi Hendrix in a Jeff Beck suit!


65 posted on 01/08/2011 5:34:58 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator

I am watching Fox & Friends as you posted this. Although I might see a vague resemblance, Alisyn is way hotter. I get up early on Saturday just to see her - smokin’ hot!


66 posted on 01/08/2011 5:41:20 AM PST by untwist
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To: Lancey Howard
Anyway, The Police did a full 2+ hour concert with just the three of them - - no side men at all - - and filled the place with music. I commented to my daughter afterwards how impressed I was with all the sound produced by just three guys. Not "thin" in the slightest, as I would have expected. By the way, the opening act for The Police was Elvis Costello, and he was terrific, too. Sting came out near the end of the set and sang 'Alison' with Elvis.

"Just the three of them"   (the Police)
Is a lot different today than 25 years ago
Today the sound enhancements that can be added and optimized

For the 2007 Led Zep concert I'm sure the sound was a lot fuller than when the same tunes with the same on stage instrumentation were played in 1970. How and why?

67 posted on 01/08/2011 5:48:49 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: untwist

I agree. AC’s not a lesbian, either.


68 posted on 01/08/2011 5:49:19 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: dennisw

Have you ever listened to the Zep live album The Song Remains The Same? They sound huge. So I’m not sure the critical piece is Robert Plant’s stage antics.

RE Plant scrubbing the reunion, I’ll bet if you could really get inside his head, you would find that there’s some kind of an issue with Jimmy Page at the bottom of it. I’ll bet Page kind of wanted to run the show but Plant didn’t feel like submitting to that again.


69 posted on 01/08/2011 5:51:19 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: blam
Why do you think they didn’t pay royalties?

The book "Hammer of the Gods" suggested they just flat out stole a lot of their stuff.

70 posted on 01/08/2011 5:51:43 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Lancey Howard

The hoopla and crowd hysteria can make one accept the live concert sound by the Police, Rolling Stones, what have you.... In ways you would never accept listening at home in calmer moments

Older “live” albums were notorious for being overdubbed and sonically enhanced
The kids today have crap music like rap today, we had it much better.


71 posted on 01/08/2011 5:52:34 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: blam; All
Arrgh! I hate you guys!

I had Zep tickets to the Madison Square Garden concert.

Then Bonham very inconsiderately *died*, canceling not only the concert, but the tour, and the band.

Bastard.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

72 posted on 01/08/2011 5:59:33 AM PST by The Comedian (Puzzling puzzle pieces precisely proliferating panoramically.)
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To: dennisw
He can pull it off vocally. But visually it is too ridiculous for a 65 year old man with a gray goatee and grayish hair to be jumping around like the 40 year old Robert Plant. Mick Jagger has looked ridiculous for 20 years.

Fully agree. Like certain NFL quarterbacks, there are rock stars who stick around so long after their prime that they become caricatures of themselves. They should spend more time in the studio and less time on stage trying to recapture the spark of their former 25-year-old selves.

Not too many rock stars can pull off a long career well into their 60s but it does happen. As much as I dislike the man's politics, Bruce Springsteen is one who still puts a great rock concert. He's also one who performs much better on stage than in the studio.

73 posted on 01/08/2011 6:11:24 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: RingerSIX
Actually "In Through The Out Door" is my favorite Led Zep album. Probably because it was the only LZ album I was old enough to buy when it first came out. My favorite tracks from that album were "Fool In The Rain", "Carouselambra" and "All Of My Love" which all hold up well today. There were a couple of throwaways that didn't belong there like "Hot Dog" but overall, a strong album that was to take them in a different direction in the 1980s had Bonham not died. If I had to pick my least favorite LZ album, it would have been "Presence".

A few years after the LZ break-up, Robert Plant released a single called "Big Log". That is one of my favorite songs of alltime and probably the best best indication of what Zeppelin might have sounded like in the 80s had they continued as a band.

74 posted on 01/08/2011 6:18:59 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: ConservativeStatement
I saw LZ twice on their '77 tour. It was outdoors at the Oakland Coliseum. Not so good. I saw Allison Krauss back in 2002. She has a wonderful voice.

The next show I hope to see is Hot Tuna, I can hardly wait.

75 posted on 01/08/2011 6:26:22 AM PST by csvset
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To: SamAdams76
Not too many rock stars can pull off a long career well into their 60s but it does happen. As much as I dislike the man's politics, Bruce Springsteen is one who still puts a great rock concert. He's also one who performs much better on stage than in the studio.

Bruce Springstein has can still do his old songs with credibility and stage presence equivalent to what he had when 25-35 years old
#1 Key reason is he is always playing a guitar so is not expected to dance, jump and cavort all over the stage the way Jagger and Plant did being singers only. And Jagger still tries to pull off at age 67??? lol
#2 is he (Springstein) still has a reasonably full head of black hair
#3 I don't like his politics...as far as his music only 2-3 songs grab me. But they say he puts on a bofo show. Ever hear of the Cask and Flagon near Fenway?

76 posted on 01/08/2011 6:31:40 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: Yardstick

http://www.thegardentapes.co.uk/tgt.html

Here is an analysis and deconstruction of how songs within “Song Remains the Same” were pieced together from different concerts and had minor overdubs


77 posted on 01/08/2011 6:37:55 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw

http://www.thegardentapes.co.uk/tgt.html

Here is an analysis and deconstruction of how songs within “Song Remains the Same” were pieced together from different concerts and had minor overdubs


Great read, very interesting. Best LZ albums for me are LZ IV and Presence. Particular favorites include Achilles Last Stand and Tea for One. Also like very much Since I’ve Been Loving You from LZ III, of which Tea for One is similar style (minor blues).

You know who else is a great LZ fan? Joe Bonamassa, who is considered to be the best blues rock guitarist at the moment.

http://www.jbonamassa.com/bio.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfKD22Q8VzM

Sloe Gin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46UFXQVSnKs&feature=related

Happier Times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePsPTWGmR-w&feature=related

His latest project is Blsck Country Communion

http://jbonamassa.com/2011/01/music-news-reviews-bcc-shepherds-bush-show/

Mistreated (live)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8eRQIq3NXI


78 posted on 01/08/2011 7:35:56 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: dennisw
Mick Jagger has looked ridiculous for 20 years.

Yep. Carrying all that money to the bank makes him walk funny.

79 posted on 01/08/2011 7:43:21 AM PST by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average. Politicians come from the other half.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I listened to your boy Bonamassa....well done!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGF5y0B1eJU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e8WZ9ijgmE&feature=related


80 posted on 01/08/2011 8:05:58 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: The Comedian

Thats too bad. I saw them closing night at the forum. I think they managed two more shows in SF before he passed away


81 posted on 01/08/2011 8:40:06 AM PST by winodog
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To: dennisw
...we had it much better.

I've always played a lot of music around here, and my three grown kids have all said the same thing to me at some point. That is, they said they wish their music was as good as what I grew up with - - you know, back in the olden days. (gulp)

82 posted on 01/08/2011 9:04:29 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: dennisw

Yes, it was three nights in LA and it’s well known that the final album spliced some songs together from the best parts of each night. That doesn’t change the fact that at any given point in the album you’re listening to four guys on stage, and they sound huge. It’s not like they dubbed in a B3 or a second guitar to fatten things up.


83 posted on 01/08/2011 9:06:23 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: dennisw

Yeah, I liked that version of Stop.

Here’s some Bonamassa playing ZZ Top

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiw1XAb8G9A

By the way the drummer Bogie Bowles just left the group...got tired of touring. Actually started out playing in coffee house with Joe a little over 5 years ago!

There a a number of interviews with him on youtube that you will find. He also takes time to meet with fans and young people wanting to be guitar players. Quite a good dude...


84 posted on 01/08/2011 9:40:36 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Anyone seen his live show lately? He’ll be here next month and I’m thinking about going.


85 posted on 01/08/2011 9:54:25 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: equaviator
Taurus is the fourth song on their self-titled 1968 album "Spirit" You make up your mind which LZ song this is. Taurus
86 posted on 01/08/2011 3:52:02 PM PST by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: jy8z

THAT’s a stretch...Oh great-Oh-great-oh, flex-o-flex, I reckon!


87 posted on 01/08/2011 6:15:09 PM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Lancey Howard
I commented to my daughter afterwards how impressed I was with all the sound produced by just three guys.

You should see Rush in concert, no band gets more out of three guys than they do.

88 posted on 01/08/2011 6:22:49 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Moonman62

Best comeback!


89 posted on 01/08/2011 6:55:25 PM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: dfwgator

I saw Rush in 1975 at Bucknell. Rush and Kiss opened for Blue Oyster Cult. That was, by far, the loudest concert I ever attended (and that includes a couple of Black Sabbath concerts at the Spectrum in 1970 - 71). I was on aspirin for a week, which helped with the headache but didn’t stop the ringing in my ears.


90 posted on 01/08/2011 7:59:39 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: God luvs America; EQAndyBuzz; equaviator
thankfully i saw Zeppelin live, opening night at Madison Square Garden, 6/7/1977...

That's a couple weeks before I saw them (at the L.A. Forum, 17th row center). They played six nights, just like they did at MSG. Loudest show I've ever attended. Too loud, actually -- something I didn't think possible when I was that age. Not nearly has tight as the '73 tour -- the 35+ minute "No Quarter" was a bit over the top. IIRC, the songs from Physical and Presence were the highlights.

91 posted on 01/09/2011 9:45:46 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: SamAdams76

I don’t think I could pick a favorite Zep album. I just remember back in 1978 my friends and I were awaiting their next release for what seemed like a very long time. Presence had come out a couple of years before, but like you noted, it didn’t satisfy, and hey... we were nineteen or twenty years old and life seemed to move like molasses. We wanted and expected something like Zep I, or II, or III, or IV, or Houses of the Holy or Physical Graffiti. Something with hard driving Blues/Rock. Old school stuff, with an easy to play song or two for those of us who liked to fiddle with the guitar. (Ala Stairway or Going To California or Babe I’m Gonna Leave You)

But to us “In Through The Out Door” sounded like some sort of unholy cross between Elvis, The Beatles (back-beat stuff), The Beegees and Benny Hill’s theme song. It just wasn’t at all what we were expecting, and it drove us away from Zeppelin for years to come. Years later we joked that Zep had singlehandedly caused the birth of disco when that album hit the streets. :) (I actually ticked off a few people with that comment) LOL!


92 posted on 01/09/2011 10:00:50 AM PST by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: RingerSIX
..."Years later we joked that Zep had singlehandedly caused the birth of disco when that album hit the streets."... Disco as I knew it was already fading by the time In Through The Out Door was released. I think the beginning of the end for Disco was the night in 1979 that rock DJ Steve Dahl held court at Comiskey Park where fans brought in their own disco records to be blown sky-high during the 7th inning stretch of a Chisox game.Steve Dahl
93 posted on 01/10/2011 5:01:28 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator

Wow, a whole stadium full of “Disco Sucks!” :) I’ve not heard of that event before.

The vast majority of disco did suck. And what followed in the early 80’s sucked pretty hard as well. Political correctness was rearing its ugly head in music more than ever before. Not that there wasn’t some good stuff as well, but I just remember the 80’s bringing on the first era where I “looked back” to find the music to which I liked to listen. I guess you could say it was my first experience knowing what it was to listen to “oldies.” I was no longer a part of the NOW generation.

The guys that we ragged on about the birth of disco being spawned by Zeppelin were much too young to remember all of that. They would have been < 10 years old when In Through The Out Door was released. Thus, as 2nd generation Zeppelin fans, they were ripe for being told stories by us guys who “were there!” :) It sure ticked them off.


94 posted on 01/10/2011 7:23:40 AM PST by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: equaviator

...”...at Comiskey Park where fans brought in their own disco records...”

Uh, scratch that...they brought in whatever disco records they could find and probably didn’t even have any of their own unless they were received as gifts from well-meaning friends or family. HAHH!


95 posted on 01/10/2011 1:31:33 PM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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