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Experts Suspect Military Testing Behind Mass Bird and Fish Deaths
Salem-News ^ | January 8, 2011 | Terrence Aym

Posted on 01/08/2011 7:22:40 AM PST by yorkie

It's been said that Mankind will destroy itself. Unfortunately, during the past 100 years the human race has worked hard to make this prediction come true. Nuclear arsenals can destroy Mankind many times over. Alien biological weapons exist that can annihilate all humanity. Toxins are available that are so deadly a few drops in a city's water supply can kill millions.

Yet another weapons technology has been under development for some decades.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: birds; electromagnetics; fish; wildlife

1 posted on 01/08/2011 7:22:41 AM PST by yorkie
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To: yorkie

Personally, I think these *experts* are completely off-base.


2 posted on 01/08/2011 7:28:10 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: yorkie
Oh, Jeez...

NTSA.

3 posted on 01/08/2011 7:30:05 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: yorkie

Strange facts:

Species specific. Use sonar for direction (birds, fish and crabs).

Location specific: Air and Water - no land animals.


4 posted on 01/08/2011 7:32:08 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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Here is a Google earth map, showing locations of mass wildlife deaths:

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/google-releases-a-mass-animal-deaths-map-photo-1


5 posted on 01/08/2011 7:33:49 AM PST by yorkie
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To: yorkie
“Experts Suspect” that a mind is a terrible thing to waste!

Be sure to cover it up with tinfoil, and take it out to air it out at bed time. Then, the Milaterry can't read your thoughts but watch the sky closely! Those deadly toxins and mind control chemicals are being sprayed into the atmosphere by Airline Pilots (Chem trails) and they cover the earth with poison! OMG!

6 posted on 01/08/2011 7:35:41 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: yorkie

One possibility I can’t rule out is Airlines dumping sewage with a different ‘water’ in the bowl.


7 posted on 01/08/2011 7:38:34 AM PST by txhurl (This Is Not America.)
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To: yorkie

I’m thinking it could be caused by the cold weather.


8 posted on 01/08/2011 7:38:45 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Lets see, ridicule, wasn’t that one type of propaganda old Mr. Wolf taught us about back in sixth grade? But, you’re right, our government has never lied to us before.


9 posted on 01/08/2011 7:42:30 AM PST by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The conspiracy theorists haven’t got time to worry about all that rational crap!!!!


10 posted on 01/08/2011 7:44:28 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: yorkie

“It’s been said that Mankind will destroy itself.”

What a twink. What is he..13 maybe 14 years old?


11 posted on 01/08/2011 7:44:40 AM PST by bkepley
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To: yorkie

Of course this is not a serious rag.

Notice the picture, “Burying the dead in Arkansas”? There are no palm or banana trees in Arkansas, at least not outside.

Honestly, how do these people get off with such lies?

I think there is something going on but not sure what. The gov is protesting too much. “Perfectly normal to have mass bird kills, nothing unusual here.” Move along citizens.


13 posted on 01/08/2011 7:47:49 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: yorkie
Ah, yes, the much-hyped "mass animal death map."

Or as we without tin foil hats like to say: the much-hyped "mass animal death-hype map."

14 posted on 01/08/2011 7:47:53 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: UCANSEE2
Personally, I think the Bird and Fish deaths are a natural occurence, BUT. There are 5 KNOWN HAARP like facilities (2 in Alaska, 1 in Puerto Rico, 1 or 2 in Russia, and 20 'suspected' other facilities around the world).

Oh, JEEEEEEZ! What happened just six to eight months ago as an unusually cold winter took hold? Millions of birds, fish, and other animals killed. Oh, wait, that was in the southern hemisphere. I guess the news didn't make it up past the equator.
16 posted on 01/08/2011 7:52:56 AM PST by aruanan
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To: UCANSEE2

Smithsonian bird curator (Actual expert) says die offs are no big deal.

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/aroundthemall/2011/01/smithsonian-bird-curator-die-off-is-not-such-a-big-deal/


17 posted on 01/08/2011 7:55:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: yorkie
Nice find. Excellent resource. Now, compare those locations to this:

RUSSIA


18 posted on 01/08/2011 8:09:11 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: txhurl
One possibility I can’t rule out is Airlines dumping sewage with a different ‘water’ in the bowl.

Well, I've never believed that airlines 'flush' waste to the air anyway. Until it starts raining tampons, I'm going to stick with that belief.

19 posted on 01/08/2011 8:13:03 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

Well, rather than just endlessly speculating, it should be a fairly easy thing to overlay this so-called “death map” with meterological charts. The unspoken assumption would be that HAARP modified the jet stream, and that HAARP somehow caused the deaths of these birds or what have you.

Any jet stream anomalies or anomalous weather in general in the general vicities of these deaths?

If not, it’s likely just wild speculation, as is so often the case on internet forums. If so, then there is something to continue researching, but it still doesn’t prove anything.


20 posted on 01/08/2011 8:26:37 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: yorkie
Typical liberal clap-trap. When caught without a clue, go back to the old standards including some nebulous "secret military test"...

These people are bankrupt of ideas, knowledge, and integrity.

21 posted on 01/08/2011 8:29:58 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: yorkie

No No No I talked to an expert (floyd) down at the radar repair shop and he said it was a UFO that hit birds.


22 posted on 01/08/2011 8:41:42 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: yorkie

“Toxins are available that are so deadly a few drops in a city’s water supply can kill millions.”

A few drops? Such as?


23 posted on 01/08/2011 8:45:20 AM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: yorkie

Always be suspicious of stories that begin with “experts suspect”, or experts say or think”.

Glenn Beck did a pretty good job putting the bird kill stories in perspective. He demonstrated with Google searches, that you can pick just about any year and you can find a headline someplace in the World about mysterious bird kills or dead fish washing up.


24 posted on 01/08/2011 8:47:36 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

PSYCHO-FREEP (reference your post # 6)

They are NOT talking about chem-trails here.... did you read the article?

They are talking about Scalar technology which incorporates the transmission of high-energy electromagnetic radiation designed to disrupt geological and biological processes. “It’s a technology that is mostly secret that has been under development since the 1970s……. Scalar technology can be tuned. Patents that have been granted support that capability. This tuning ability permits the electromagnetic frequencies to zero-in on specific biology such as a certain species of bird or fish…or humans too.”


25 posted on 01/08/2011 9:38:41 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: aruanan

I see I wasn’t too clear.

The High Power, Low Frequency (like HAARP) transmitters MAY have accidentally killed some birds here and there, mostly in the past. IF there was a HPLF transmitter active, it could have killed MAYBE ONE flock of birds by causing mass disorientation.

Ergo, I favor natural causes.

My POINT was that the HAARP like transmitters (especially the big one in Russia), were more likely to have caused long term climate change (or what I call ‘YOUR WEATHER GOT MOVED SOMEWHERE ELSE) and not the animal deaths.


26 posted on 01/08/2011 9:53:39 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: cripplecreek
Smithsonian bird curator (Actual expert) says die offs are no big deal.

I would agree. Those who live in areas where this is a common occurrence understand it.

Those who don't are easily panicked and misled by the media.

The 'concern' has come from the relatively 'close' incidents, and the fish kills along with bird kills.

Once again, fish kills are common, and often happen to just one species at a time.

YET, we must remain aware, and not take any incidents for granted. Just because no one is using a death ray, or bio-weapons testing on us, or on the animals, doesn't mean they eventually won't.

27 posted on 01/08/2011 10:07:33 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I’m thinking it could be caused by the cold weather.

To be exact, it could have been caused by the SUDDEN CHANGE in weather.

28 posted on 01/08/2011 10:13:19 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Sequoyah101

Also the blackbirds look like chickens and the people look Asian. This is most likely a stock photo of the bird flu clean up in China.


29 posted on 01/08/2011 10:14:00 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Sequoyah101

Also the blackbirds look like chickens and the people look Asian. This is most likely a stock photo of the bird flu clean up in China.


30 posted on 01/08/2011 10:26:52 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: RegulatorCountry
Well, rather than just endlessly speculating, it should be a fairly easy thing to overlay this so-called “death map” with meterological charts.

I agree. I am sure there would be some correlation.

If you laid a map of the High Power/Low Frequency sites like HAARP over the bird/fish kills, there would be some correlation (even though you can't determine if any of the HPLF antennas were powered up).

If you laid a map of earthquakes over the bird/fish kills, you would probably get some correlation.

The unspoken assumption would be that HAARP modified the jet stream, and that HAARP somehow caused the deaths of these birds or what have you.

Well, let's clear that up. HAARP, when in use years ago, did artificially alter the path of the Jet Stream. Since the Jet Stream changes anyway, it's really nothing new. How that artificial alteration has effected the climate on a long term basis is hard to determine, given that we don't know exactly what it would have done had we not 'interfered'.

Since it is a matter of historical record that not only birds have fallen in large groups from the sky, but also fish,and frogs, it seems likely that whatever did that could suck up a flock of birds, cause their insides to rupture (sudden change in pressure), and freeze them, then expel them from the top of the wind column, where they plummet to the ground many miles away and hours later.

If so, then there is something to continue researching, but it still doesn’t prove anything.

I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm trying to lay out all the options and see what can be eliminated, or what looks probable.

Maybe we punch more 'holes' in the atmosphere that we realize, and the unfiltered dangerous rays from the Sun cause weather changes and animal kills.

My real issue with the article is who are these so called 'experts' that 'suspect' the military caused this?

These days, anyone with a keyboard and Internet access claims to be an 'expert'.

I have no clue what really killed these birds, or the fish. What do you think caused it?

31 posted on 01/08/2011 10:45:04 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

I don’t really know what I think caused these animals to be killed.

At one point, I was suspicious about the species of birds affected, being rather similar to those affected by West Nile, but that doesn’t explain a simultaneous die-off or nearly so, to my knowledge. Neither would it explain simultaneous die-offs in cold weather, unless some viral illness was being transmitted via insects other than the mosquito. Not entirely unheard of, but there are still problems,

I’ve also wondered if this wasn’t an effect similar to the seeming rash of shark sightings and attacks that happen every couple of years, which is really more of a heightened awareness than anything specific, a media sensation.

It’s a peculiar situation, and I’m not jumping on any bandwagons one way or the other, pro or con. If someone wants to speculate in the direction of some exotic form of weaponry or even an unintentional effect of some little-known scientific experimentation, there is some history in that regard as well, and I wouldn’t rule it out.

There is enough information on hand, to begin to either support or refute some of the various speculations, some of which would appear to be pretty wild, is all I was hoping to point out.


32 posted on 01/08/2011 12:51:35 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: UCANSEE2

I want to thank you for your cognisant and applicable posts on this article today. You make sense - and you make it very clear.


33 posted on 01/08/2011 4:03:57 PM PST by yorkie
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To: UCANSEE2
I see I wasn’t too clear.

You were probably clearer in a post earlier than the one I saw. I just read it under "recent posts," not within the thread.
34 posted on 01/08/2011 6:34:01 PM PST by aruanan
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