Skip to comments.Steyr M95- anybody got one?
Posted on 01/11/2011 1:29:46 PM PST by TexasBarak
Big Five has these on sale for $79.95 (the one I looked at today was a carbine). I'm looking for an inexpensive knockabout rifle to keep in the truck (but still capable of taking out a wild pig), and this looks like it will fit the bill. Do any of you have one of these, or have experience with it? Does anyone know of a reasonable source of ammo?
Here's the wikipedia link concerning these rifles-
I'm off for a bit of a nap- I'll check back in in a bit.
8x56r cartridge with a big kick. I heard Privi Partisan is coming out with reasonably priced ammo ($15/box). You do need an enbloc clip to shoot it. Mine is fun.
Good info here
It costs just a little more than a Duraflame firelog. If it doesn't work out you could burn it for heat.
But the bolt does need a bit of english on it to get it open some times.
Unless you reload, you'd probably be better off gettng a M44.
You have a cosmoline issue most likely.
The cartridge is obsolete and nominally available. I would instead get a Mosin-Nagant M44 in the 7.62X54R caliber. You can find good examples for less than $100.
You might want to look at a Mosin Nagant. Ammo is a bit less pricey I think.
May I recommend the High Point rifles. Made in Ohio, uses pistol ammo [9mm,.40 & .45]
they use a “blowback” system of cycling and low cost to get & use. There are accesories you can purchas as well to “tweak” your rifle out to the way you want.
I was just thinking one of these a Saiga IZ-240 - 16” though more expensive would be a good knock about rifle.
Do not have one personally I would go with the Moisin Nagent commie rifle the ammo seems to be in plentiful supply and the price not much higher. I have shot one of those and they kick like a mule the Steyr is discussed in the thread from firing line above.
mine’s a POS.
couldn’t hit the Metrodome roof from the inside.
makes a fine war club ,though.
Here's how you can fix that "sticky bolt."
Mosin Nagant vote here. A bit more expensive, but they burn much hotter with all that cosmoline.
Life is too short to shoot ugly guns, and life is too short to have to “track” wild boar.
If you want a fine, but inexpensive bolt-action that will take a beating, go with a commonwealth-built Lee-Enfield SMLE carbine in .303.
The ammo is hard to come by (I reload) and it requires a clip to shoot, so it is inconvenient as just a “truck gun”.
You would be better off with a Mosin for that, ammo is plentiful and cheap (corrosive, though) it packs a wallop, and is pretty accurate offhand out to a hundred yards.
Practically speaking, ammo can be hard to come by and the straight pull bolt takes a bit of effort to operate.
Like others have suggested, I think a Mosin-Nagant carbine a better choice all around. The model 44 even comes with a fold out "pig sticker" should it be needed.
I'm pretty good offhand with my Mosin at 200, and it's the carbine (M38). Not only is it a good shooter, but the entertainment value for the shockwave and fireball are up there, too.
Too funny. We posted practically the same response at about the same time!
For a good cheap gun I recommend the SKS. I think they are still cheap. I havn’t looked at prices for a few years.
wonder why this one costs so much?
The same thing applies to the Mannlicher-Carcano M91 rifle from Italy in 6.5x52. Fresh ammo is about, but the Mannlicher clips in either brass or steel can be hard to find. In both cases, users of the M95 or M91 considered the enbloc clips to be expendable. The clip falls out of the rifle when the last round is fired.
The M91 Mosin-Nagant uses a 5-shot stripper clip that is used to reload the rifle and discarded. Caliber 7.62x54R is a very commonly available caliber; much moreso than 8x56R Steyr or 6.5x52 Carcano.
That's actually what I went there looking for- they ran out at Christmas, told me they should have more in around mid-January.
Hah! Exactly what I said when I picked it up and they told me the size of the cartridge! And the carbine version I looked at is a fairly light weapon. Definitely made to be used by people wearing several layers of heavy wool clothing!
Very good information! I was wondering if dies would be available. I’m not reloading yet, but I intend to start, and this looks like a fun rifle if I can make affordable ammo. Plus the ability to load it a little lighter and not get my shoulder dislocated...
How do you like that straight pull bolt action?
Okay, that explains why I could see daylight when looking down into the magazine well. I thought that was kinda sloppy, especially for an Austrian made gun, but now I understand.
Enfields aint ugly? If you say so.
“wonder why this one costs so much?”
Looks like one that was not re-chambered to 8x56r, still in the original 8x50 caliber. Thus, rarer. Probably still overpriced, since it is “Gunsmoker” auctions. haha.
Not to threadjack, but I'd like to talk to you about that. I've taken a lot of the creep out of my M91/30's trigger, and I floated the barrel. I'm not getting much better than 2 MOA at 100yds with S&B or Prvi Partisan. What are you getting, and what have you done to yours? I am geared up to reload 7.62x54R, but have only replaced bullets so far.
An SKS or Russian Mosin Nagant would be a better choice for a low cost gun.
Mosins are about $80 if you look around. Best value in a long time.
No, the "S" on the breech means it was rechambered. That gun was clearly rearsenaled.
Whoops. looked too quick and missed the “S”. you are correct.
Exactly right — think M1 Garand, a rifle ejects the clip and brass out the top — the M95 ejects the last round out the top and clip out the bottom. And, just like the M1, without a clip to hold the ammo the M95 Steyr can only function as a single-shot rifle.
I would not recommend pistol round firing carbines to take pigs.
[wonder why this one costs so much?]
Either the seller does not want to sell it, or more likely, the seller does not understand how something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, no more, no less.
I have seen air rifles take wild hogs. so if you place a round right you can take one. The size of that air rifle was .25. But you can use a larger one if you want.
You’re absolutely right on all points.
The iron sights on my rifle are really bad; the trigger pull is long and creepy, but it is a military rifle. Shooting from sandbags at 50 yards I can barely keep five rounds inside of 5 inches. I'm using load data that came with the Lee dies; there's darn little data published anywhere. (I think Hornady also makes dies.)
As I said, my rifle has a headspace problem; the primers on every fired case have backed out. Probably needs a new barrel, but I'm not going to buy one. There are probably no really good barrels for sale anyway.
The Mosin-Nagant is probably a better bet for all the reasons stated by others on this post; I am mostly a paper target shooter and like to experiment with different rifles. In 1895 with the dawn of the smokeless powder age, the Styer was state of the art. I bought mine out of curiosity; probably look for a genuine German-made Mauser 98 soon.
That's what I was going to suggest. Same deal with Mosin-Nagant's. They need a lot of prep work, but they're really durable.
If I were going to buy a straight pull design I’d probably spend the extra money and get one of those Swiss K’s.
[I have seen air rifles take wild hogs. so if you place a round right you can take one. The size of that air rifle was .25. But you can use a larger one if you want.]
Impressive. I realize even a BB placed well can kill, but...
What do you recommend in a long gun for personal protection against, say, humans, that are much more fragile than wild pigs? That’s the only animal those carbines are designed to stop. None of the pigs I’ve ever shot stood still for long, so how much time do we have to aim to place a round right? I’m not such a bad shot myself, but I wouldn’t go trying to take wild pigs with an air rifle, or a pistol round from a carbine. Well, maybe a .44 magnum, which is a revolver round, or a .45 Win Mag, or .50 AE. I have a friend who felt his M1 Carbine was sufficient for wild pigs on Catalina, and emptied that gun before he stopped that pig from doing him serious harm.
Just sayin’ I wouldn’t recommend pistol round firing carbines to take wild pigs, but I see you would. OK.
Oh boy, that question is worthy of a thread all by itself. And there are lots of right answers. But first there are a lot more questions.
What environment do you reasonably expect to use it in? What are the most likely threats you expect to face? What is your level of proficiency with a firearm? How much time, money, and effort are you willing to put into learning to use the weapon safely and effectively?
How much money do you have to spend not only on the rifle but on range time and ammo?
In some scenarios an AR type rifle would be a solid choice. In others a lever action might be a better choice. That being said in lots of possible scenarios a bolt action center fire would be damn near ideal. In others, you can't beat a pump action 12 gauge shotgun...
If you're a relative novice, and live in a standard issue suburban area of the US, and don't want to spend a grand on a rifle, I might personally recommend a Mossberg pump action 12 gauge.
They run around $300 bucks, ammo is cheap and plentiful, and with the right load you can kill anything that walks, flys, or crawls on the North American continent.
But like I said above, there are lots and lots of questions to ask yourself before you plunk down your hard earned money on a 'long gun' for personal defense.
That was a rhetorical question.
Sorry, my mistake
No problem fellow gun nut.
Seems to me lewis and clark used an air rifle on their exploration. Air rifles can be just as potent as gunpowder rifles. You just need a much bigger bore to make up for the lower velocity.
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