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Gov. Daniels State of the State Address, This guy is good, he is very good!
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Posted on 01/11/2011 6:59:23 PM PST by pm58590

GOV. MITCHELL E. DANIELS, JR.

2011 STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS

JANUARY 11, 2011

Mr. Speaker, members of the Assembly, Hoosier friends and neighbors, thank you yet again for the privilege of this platform.

For most of us, one of the strongest memories of our youth is that great school teacher, that magical man or woman who somehow reached us, and stretched us, and in the process left indelible recollections. For me, one of those was Bob Watson—still, today, Mr. Watson to me—who introduced us to the mysteries of the periodic table in high school chemistry. In addition to mixing potions that suddenly turned purple, and terrifying pop quizzes, Mr. Watson was famous for his aphorisms, little sayings so often repeated that his students still smile and recite them to each other decades later. And the most frequently applied of all Watson’s wisdoms was: “Good things come to those who wait. Patience is the essence of life.”

Patience does not come easily to a teenager. Or to adults, for that matter. At the grocery store, the airport scanner, or the BMV, none of us likes to wait. Like all Americans, Hoosiers are waiting tonight for a national economic recovery. Far too many are without work and, even worse than their number, is how long many have been waiting, waiting for that next job, waiting for the basic human fulfillment of knowing you are standing on your own feet, providing for yourself and your family.

The deep frustration of unemployed Hoosiers is shared by those of us charged with public duties in these times. The best efforts of our state, or any one state, to break free of recession’s suffocating clutch, are never adequate, and we can't wait for better times.

Building one of the best job climates in the country isn’t enough. Breaking the all-time record for new job commitments isn't enough. Adding new jobs at twice the national average isn’t enough. We did all those things in 2010, but it couldn’t offset the terrible drag of a national economic ebb tide that continues to leave too many boats stuck in the muck.

We Hoosiers don't like to wait, when we can act. If we cannot overcome a nationwide job hemorrhage, we can fight back better than others. Again in 2010, we broke all records for road building and bridge building, for the fourth year in a row, and put thousands to work doing so.

As the final installment of our 2008 property tax cuts took effect, hard-pressed Hoosier home and business owners found an additional $600 million still in their bank accounts. Tonight, because of our action, Indiana’s property taxes are the lowest anywhere in America. And thanks to a ringing 72 percent verdict by our fellow citizens, who voted in referendum to protect those cuts in our constitution, they’re going to stay that way.

And in the clearest example of Hoosier resolve, we handled a two billion dollar drop in state revenues as any family would, as any small business would. We decided what is most important, separated the “must do’s” from the “nice to do’s,” and matched spending to income.

Across the country, state spending, despite the recession, is still up sharply the last six years. But here, it is virtually flat, one-third the rate of inflation. Elsewhere, state government payrolls have grown, but here, we have the nation's fewest state employees per capita, fewer than we did in 1978. During this terrible recession, at least 35 states raised taxes, but Indiana cut them. Since '04, the other 49 states added to their debt, by 40 percent; we paid ours down, by 40 percent. Many states exhausted any reserves they may have had, and plunged into the red, but our savings account remains strong, and our credit AAA.

What we did in 2008, and 2009, and 2010, we will do again this year. We will take the actions necessary to limit state spending to the funds available. We will protect struggling taxpayers against the additional burden of higher taxes. We will continue improving our jobs climate by holding the line on taxes as our competitors take the easy way and let theirs rise. We say tonight, whatever course others may choose, here in Indiana we live within our means, we put the private sector ahead of government, the taxpayer ahead of everyone, and we will stay in the black, whatever it takes.

In two days, I will send to this Assembly a proposed budget for the next biennium. As always, I know that our final product will be a mutual one, and I welcome your amendments and improvements, so long as they live up to the following principles:

One, I just mentioned; no tax increases. Can I get an “amen” to that?

Two, we must stay in the black at all times, with positive reserves at a prudent level throughout the time period.

Three, the budget must come into structural balance, meaning that no later than its second year, annual revenues must exceed annual spending, with no need for any use of our savings account.

Four, no gimmicks. We put an end to practices like raiding teacher pension funds, and shifting state deficits to our schools and universities by making them wait until the state had the cash to pay them. That’s a form of waiting we should never impose again.

And, to hasten the return of an even stronger fiscal position, I again ask you to vote for lasting spending discipline by enacting an automatic taxpayer refund. When the day comes again when state reserves exceed 10 percent of annual needs, it will be time to stop collecting taxes and leave them with the people they belong to. Remember what the Hoosier philosopher said: “It's tainted money. ‘Taint yours, and ‘taint mine.” Beyond some point, it is far better to leave dollars in the pockets of those who earned them than to let them burn a hole, as they always do, in the pockets of government.

Doing the people’s business while living within the people’s means is our fundamental duty in public service. Redrawing our legislative lines without gerrymandering, and adjusting an out of balance Unemployment Insurance system, are other examples of duties we must meet this year. I know you'll do so, head on.

So we had a little election last November. It changed a few things, like the seating arrangement in this chamber. One thing it didn’t change at all: our common duty to take every action possible to make this a better state, a more progressive state, a standout and special and distinctive state. That election, like all elections, was not a victory for one side, it was an instruction to us all. It was not an endorsement of a political party, it was an assignment to everyone present. By itself, it accomplished nothing, but it threw open the door to great accomplishment. Starting tonight, we must step through that door, together.

One opportunity lies in reform of our criminal justice system. Helped by the nation's most respected experts, a bipartisan task force of police, judges, prosecutors, and others fashioned a package of changes to see that lawbreakers are incarcerated in a smarter way, one that matches their place of punishment to their true danger to society. We can be tougher on the worst offenders, and protect Hoosiers more securely, while saving a billion dollars the next few years. Let's seize this opportunity, without waiting.

Two years ago, the bipartisan commission led by two of Indiana’s most admired leaders presented to us a blueprint to bring Indiana local government out of the pioneer days in which it was created and into the modern age. Of their 27 proposals, seven have been enacted in some form. That leaves a lot of work to do. Indiana is waiting.

Some of the changes are so obvious that our failure to make them is a daily embarrassment. The conflict of interest when double-dipping government workers simultaneously sit on city or county councils, interrogating their own supervisors and deciding their own salaries, must end. The same goes for the nepotism that leads to one in four township employees sharing a last name with the politician who hired them.

Township government, which does not exist in most states, made some sense on the Indiana frontier. Many township lines were laid out to accommodate the round-trip distance a horse could travel in a day. We’ve come a little ways since then.

Today, over 4,000 politicians, few of them known to the voters they represent, run over a thousand different township governments. They are sitting on hundreds of millions of dollars in reserves. Some have eight years of spending needs stashed in the bank, yet they keep collecting taxes. Some townships are awash in money, while the township next door does not have enough to provide poor relief to its needy citizens. Adjacent townships each buy expensive new fire trucks when one would suffice to cover them both.

Those serving in township government are good people, and well motivated. We thank them for their service. Our problem lies not with those holding all these offices, but with the antique system that keeps them there. I support the clear and simple recommendation of the Kernan-Shepard Commission that we remove this venerable but obsolete layer of government, and assign what little remains of its duty to elected city and county officials.

Likewise, our strange arrangement of a three-headed county executive should change. No business has three CEOs; no football team has three head coaches; no military unit would think of having three coequal commanding officers. We should join the rest of America in moving to a single, elected county commissioner, working with a strengthened legislative branch, the County Council, to make decision making accountable and implementation swift and efficient.

As in the last two sessions, I look forward to constructive cooperation with the Assembly in bringing reform about. The only outcome that is unacceptable is no action at all. Hoosiers have waited for decades for our governmental design to catch up to society. Let’s not keep them waiting any longer.

In no realm is our opportunity larger than in the critical task of educating our children. The need for major improvement, and the chance for achieving it, is so enormous tonight that opportunity rises to the level of duty.

Advocates of change in education become accustomed to being misrepresented. If you challenge the fact that forty-two cents of the education dollar are somehow spent outside the classroom, you must not respect school boards. If you wonder why doubling spending didn’t produce any gains in student achievement, you must be criticizing teachers. If your heart breaks at the parade of young lives permanently handicapped by a school experience that leaves them unprepared for the world of work, you must be “anti-public schools.”

So let’s start by affirming once again that our call for major change in our system of education, like that of President Obama, his education secretary and so many others, is rooted in a love for our schools, those who run them and those who teach in them. But it is rooted most deeply in a love for the children whose very lives and futures depend on the quality of the learning they either do or do not acquire while in our schools. Nothing matters more than that. Nothing compares to that.

Some seek change in education on economic grounds, and they are right. To win and hold a family-supporting job, our kids will need to know much more than their parents did. I have seen the future competition, every time I go abroad in search of new jobs for our state, in the young people of Japan, Korea, Taiwan, China. Let me tell you—those kids are good. They ought to be. They are in school, not 180 days a year like here, but 210, 220, 230 days a year. By the end of high school, they have benefited from two or three years more education than Hoosier students. Along the way, they have taken harder classes. It won’t be easy to win jobs away from them.

It’s not just tomorrow’s jobs that are at stake. The quality of Indiana education matters right now. When we are courting a new business, right behind taxes, the cost of energy, reasonable regulation, and transportation facilities comes schools. “What kind of school will my children, and our workers’ children attend?” is a question we’re always asked. Sometimes, in some places, it costs us jobs today. There is no time to wait.

In 1999, Indiana passed a law that said schools must either improve their results or be taken over by new management. The little ones who entered first grade then, full of hope and promise, are eighteen now. In the worst of our districts, half of them will not be graduating. God bless and keep them, wherever they are and whatever life now holds for them. For those children, we waited too long.

And it's not just about the most failing of our schools. The last couple years have seen some encouraging advances, after years of stagnation. But the brute facts persist: only one in three of our children can pass the national math or reading exam. We trail far behind most states and even more foreign countries on measures like excellence in math: at the recent rate of improvement, it would take twenty-one years for us to catch Slovenia, and that’s if Slovenia stands still. That’s too long to wait. That's too many futures to lose.

In every discussion, someone says “This is very complicated.” Then someone says, “These changes won't be perfect,” and then you hear “The devil is in the details.” All true. But we can no longer let complexity be an excuse for inaction, nor imperfection the enemy of the good. When it comes to our children's future, the real devil is not in the details, he's in the delay, and 2011 is the year the delay must end.

We know what works. It starts with teacher quality. Teacher quality has been found to be twenty times more important than any other factor, including poverty, in determining which kids succeed. Class size, by comparison, is virtually meaningless. Put a great teacher in front of a large class, and you can expect good results. Put a poor teacher in front of a small class, do not expect the kids to learn. In those Asian countries I mentioned, classrooms of thirty-five students are common, and they‘re beating our socks off.

We won’t have done our duty here until every single Indiana youngster has a good teacher every single year. Today, 99 percent of Indiana teachers are rated “effective.” If that were true, 99 percent, not one-third, of our students would be passing those national tests.

Today’s teachers make more money not because their students learned more but just by living longer and putting another certificate on the wall. Their jobs are protected not by any record of great teaching but simply by seniority. We have seen “teachers of the year” laid off, just because they weren’t old enough. This must change. We have waited long enough.

Teachers should have tenure, but they should earn it by proving their ability to help kids learn. Our best teachers should be paid more, much more, and ineffective teachers should be helped to improve or asked to move. Today, the outstanding teacher, the Mr. Watson whose kids are pushed and led to do their best, is treated no better than the worst teacher in the school. That is wrong; for the sake of fairness and the sake of our children, it simply has to end. We have waited long enough.

We are beginning to hold our school leaders accountable for the only thing that really matters: Did the children grow? Did the children learn? Starting this year, schools will get their own grades, in a form we can all understand: ‘A’ to ‘F.’ There will be no more hiding behind jargon and gibberish.

But, in this new world of accountability, it is only fair to give our school leadership full flexibility to deliver the results we now expect. Already, I have ordered our Board of Education to peel away unnecessary requirements that consume time and money without really contributing to learning. We are asking this Assembly to repeal other mandates that, whatever their good intentions, ought to be left to local control. I am a supporter of organ donation, and cancer awareness, and preventing mosquito-borne disease, but if a local superintendent or school board thinks time spent on these mandated courses interferes with the teaching of math, or English, or science, it should be their right to eliminate them from a crowded school day.

And, while unions and collective bargaining are the right of those teachers who wish to engage in them, they go too far when they dictate the color of the teachers’ lounge, who can monitor recess, or on what days the principal is allowed to hold a staff meeting. We must free our school leaders from all the handcuffs that reduce their ability to meet the higher expectations we now have for student achievement.

Lastly, we must begin to honor the parents of Indiana. We must trust them, and respect them enough, to decide when, where, and how their children can receive the best education, and therefore the best chance in life.

Visiting with high school seniors, I discovered one new option we should be offering. A significant fraction of our students complete, or could complete, their graduation requirements in well under twelve years. We should say to these diligent young people, and their families, if you choose to finish in eleven years instead of twelve, we will give you the money we were going to spend while you cruised through twelfth grade, as long as you spend that money on some form of further education. In this year’s survey of high school students, three out of four said they would like to have that option. Let’s empower our kids to defray the high cost of education through their own hard work, by entrusting them with this new and innovative choice.

Another new kind of choice has come to Indiana parents the last couple years, as a byproduct of our property tax reductions. Families are now able to choose public schools outside the districts they reside in, tuition-free. Schools have begun advertising campaigns, touting their graduation rates and higher test scores. This competition is a highly positive development, as long as it is fair. I ask you to protect our families against any possibility of discrimination by requiring that any school with more applicants than room fill it through a lottery or other blind selection process.

Indiana has lagged sadly behind other states in providing the option of charter schools. We must have more of them, and they must no longer be unjustly penalized. They should receive their funding exactly when other public schools do. If they need space, and the local district owns vacant buildings it has no prospect of using, they should turn them over.

Widening parents’ options in these ways will enable the vast majority of children to attend the school of their choice. But one more step is necessary: For families who cannot find the right traditional public school, or the right charter public school for their child, and are not wealthy enough to move near one, justice requires that we help. We should let these families apply dollars that the state spends on their child to the non-government school of their choice.

In that gallery and outside sit the most important guests of the evening. They are children, and parents of children, who are waiting for a spot in a charter or private school. They believe their futures will be brighter if they can make that choice. Look at those faces. Will you be the one to tell the parents “tough luck”? Are you prepared to say to them “We know better than you do”? We won’t tell you where to buy your groceries or where to get your tires rotated, but we will tell you, no matter what you think, your child will attend that school, and only that school. We have the money to send our children where we think best, but if you don’t, well, too bad for you.

These children, and their parents, have waited long enough, for a better chance in life. And Indiana has waited long enough for the kind of educational results that a great state must achieve. I have spoken of the economic implications. But, at bottom, this is not about material matters. It is about the civil right, the human right, of every Indiana family to make decisions for its children. It's about the right of all Hoosier children to realize their full potential in life. Will you join me in saying, the waiting is over, change has come, and Indiana intends to lead it?

For us sports fans, recent times have brought a frustrating string of “almosts”. At 60, Tom Watson almost won the British Open. The Colts almost won the Super Bowl. Little Butler almost won a national basketball championship. Besides the disappointment of coming so close, the bad thing about “almosts” is knowing that you may never get that close to victory, and history, again.

This cannot be the “almost” General Assembly. We are on the 18th hole, in the red zone, on the final possession of a chance for historic greatness. Indiana has waited long enough for local government that fits the realities of the 21st Century. We have waited long enough for an education system known for excellence in teaching, and accountable schools that deliver the results our kids deserve. Our parents have waited long enough for the freedom to decide which school is best for their children. We cannot “almost” end the waiting.

One thing is certain. The rest of the world will not wait on us. Other nations, and other states, are forging ahead with the kind of reforms I have proposed here. Indiana is now a leader in business climate, fiscal integrity, transportation, property taxes, and so many other respects. Now comes the chance to lead in ways that, long term, may matter more than all of those.

Wishing won’t make it so. Waiting won’t make it so. But those of you in this Assembly have a priceless and unprecedented opportunity to make it so. It’s more than a proposal, it’s an assignment. It’s more than an opportunity, it’s a duty.

Our children are waiting. Our fellow citizens are waiting. History is waiting. It’s going to be a session to remember. You’re going to do great things. I can’t wait.

God bless this Assembly and this great state.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; conservativehater; daniels; illegals; indiana; sellout; traitor

1 posted on 01/11/2011 6:59:32 PM PST by pm58590
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To: pm58590

He has shown a proclivity to throw social conservatives under the bus. A speech is just a speech until its backed with actions.


2 posted on 01/11/2011 7:02:23 PM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: GeronL

The teacher’s union does not like school choice in Indiana. He spoke a lot about school choice.


3 posted on 01/11/2011 7:06:49 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: pm58590

Too bad he sold out control (and pricing) of the Indiana Toll Road to a foreign company. The people (and their children, and their grandchildren, and their great grandchildren) of North Indiana will pay for this stunt for the better part of a century. What a visionary!


4 posted on 01/11/2011 7:22:20 PM PST by BobL
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To: pm58590

Mitch Daniels for PRESIDENT!

He, above all, is the perfect combination of true conservatism, the ability to communicate well - with the calmness and logic that Obama of which Obama is devoid - and he’s a proven, successful executive. He has it all. He would, I believe, strongly clobber Obama.

And add Michelle Bachmann as his VP.......

A dream ticket for 12....

IMHO, of course


5 posted on 01/11/2011 7:25:58 PM PST by Arlis (- Virginia loghome/woods-dweller/Jesus lovin'/Bible-totin'/"gun-clinger")
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To: pm58590

I didn’t like his “truce on social issues” shtick...but I’m willing to see what he has to say in the debates, etc. in the future. He’s at least better than Romney imo.


6 posted on 01/11/2011 7:27:14 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: pm58590

May I add that his voice did sound so Indiana Hoosier. Will the masses like the sound of a common man?


7 posted on 01/11/2011 7:28:36 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: pm58590

Mitch, do us a favor: Don’t run!


8 posted on 01/11/2011 7:29:25 PM PST by Artcore
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To: pm58590

TOTAL RINO PUKE!


9 posted on 01/11/2011 7:29:32 PM PST by ohiobuckeye1997
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To: pm58590
Such vitriol, by my governor!

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10 posted on 01/11/2011 7:43:21 PM PST by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: pm58590

Ivy League grad, Bush’s Director of Management & Budget, Washington insider, choice of the GOP elitists - I think I will pass on Mitch.


11 posted on 01/11/2011 7:43:24 PM PST by bwc2221 (.)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

I don’t like his social issues comments, and I consider him to have 2 strikes against him, but he is a hell of a governor and not a RINO. He is a good fiscal conservative and proved to be a great executive. Indiana is in great shape, especially compared to most other states.


12 posted on 01/11/2011 7:47:25 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: GeronL

Ditto.


13 posted on 01/11/2011 7:52:51 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Arlis

You are pumping another McCain ...Mcain -light. Daniels would only be slightly better than Mittens.


14 posted on 01/11/2011 7:54:15 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Arlis

...and he’s about as well known in the rest of th country as that Herb Cain guy.


15 posted on 01/11/2011 7:55:44 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: ilgipper

He caved to the Dem assembly.


16 posted on 01/11/2011 7:56:34 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: BobL

Too bad he sold out control (and pricing) of the Indiana Toll Road to a foreign company. The people (and their children, and their grandchildren, and their great grandchildren) of North Indiana will pay for this stunt for the better part of a century. What a visionary!

your comments on the lease(not sale) of the toll roads is totally ignorant of the actual facts. The state recieved BILLIONS of dollars up front, are useing them to build the Hoosier heartland corridor from Fort Wayne through Lafayette and to update many miles of existing highways that were sorely in need of maintenance.. Daniels has done more good for this state than the past 6 Democrat governors combined ( where is the money Bayh???) Check the financial condition of this state, check the level of interest in this state for potential business sites. You have to be a Democrat...northern Indiana is full of them and, as usual, they are wrong (thanks for Donelly) the pro abortion graduate of Notre Dame, a formerly Catholic university. The foreign interests cannot remove the toll road and take it home....they MUST operate it in compliance with the state or LOSE their investment in it......Kind of like the Illinois Skyway which is also leased out....if you don’t understand the situation, please don’t comment on it.


17 posted on 01/11/2011 10:19:29 PM PST by terycarl (4)
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To: PhiloBedo

If he’s another McCain, I repent in dust and ashes and take back what I said.....never got that impression of him.......ignorance perhaps?


18 posted on 01/11/2011 10:21:21 PM PST by Arlis (- Virginia loghome/woods-dweller/Jesus lovin'/Bible-totin'/"gun-clinger")
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To: terycarl

“your comments on the lease(not sale) of the toll roads is totally ignorant of the actual facts.”

Use of the word “Ignorant” is a standard bully tactic, but I get used to it from shills. Governor Perry tried the same stunt here regarding the sellout of our FREEWAYS, in our case - and I heard the same things - but the PEOPLE were not fooled.

“The state recieved BILLIONS of dollars up front..., are useing them to build the Hoosier heartland corridor from Fort Wayne through Lafayette and to update many miles of existing highways that were sorely in need of maintenance..”

Yea, and lotteries pay for schools too. We’ve all heard that bait-and-switch line before. The reason we (we think) killed off Governor Perry’s scheme is because the vast majority of Texans believe that tolls on a particular highway should just be used to operate that highway. In this case, you are CONDEMNING the people of North Indiana to pay, THROUGH TOLLS, for projects in all other areas of the state - while STILL PAYING THE GAS TAX - while the people on I-70 get to drive without tolls.

Also you might want to ask the people of Chicago weather it’s a good idea to cell out city assets (in their case, parking meters to the same company), to the first charlatan that comes by offering you money up front. You might be surprised by what you hear. It’s no different than a heroin fix.

“Daniels has done more good for this state than the past 6 Democrat governors combined”

Subjective comment and too early to tell. Given the fact that the FULL BRUNT of the unlimited tolling (backed by monopoly protection) will take a decade or so before it hits, I think I’ll get back with you in 15 years on this one (although hopefully a court will throw this crap out before then). But I have no doubt that Mitch can get a very well-paying job with Cintra when he retires.

“Check the financial condition of this state, check the level of interest in this state for potential business sites.”

Believe me, if we here in Texas pulled the same stunt, we’d be in the black too. Same for California and New York. The idea is to balance the budget WITHOUT condemning your people to what can only be described as indentured servitude.

“You have to be a Democrat...northern Indiana is full of them and, as usual, they are wrong (thanks for Donelly) the pro abortion graduate of Notre Dame, a formerly Catholic university.”

Yea, Perry’s guys called me that too. But I’ll tell you, when 1,000 people gathered at a DOT meeting in North Houston to OPPOSE the same stunt, I PROMISE YOU that at least some of them were Republicans. One does not have to be Democrat to be against financial slavery (i.e., selling off critical assets to private companies, and then giving them monopoly protection without regulation). I don’t mind the name calling - it always happens when people try to cover for the stupidity of an elected leader. By I do TOTALLY agree with you on Notre Dame (for what it’s worth), it’s an embarrassment to the country.

“The foreign interests cannot remove the toll road and take it home....they MUST operate it in compliance with the state or LOSE their investment in it”

Got any Terms and Conditions on how they must operate. I’ve followed Cintra for decades and watched their lawyers make minced meat out of politicians. They will NOT sign a contract with any governor unless they get their unlimited pricing and monopoly protection. It may (and usually does) take a decade or two to kick in (i.e., just about the time those same politicians are retiring)...but they ALWAYS WIN on these deals.

......Kind of like the Illinois Skyway which is also leased out....if you don’t understand the situation, please don’t comment on it.”

Oh, you mean the 45 cents PER MILE it costs to drive on that highway. I’m sure that the people of North Indiana will be comforted by that prospect. Yea, I know it’s a short highway. But how about the 35 cents PER MILE (US) that Cintra is charging the Canadians on Highway 407, which is a much longer highway?

But I understand. Your guy wants to be president and he cannot undue this ticking time bomb, so people must run out and try to defend it.


19 posted on 01/12/2011 4:59:47 AM PST by BobL
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To: terycarl

By the way, regarding Terms and Conditions, you might want to read this paper - written by people much more knowledgeable than us...

http://www.cviog.uga.edu/services/research/abfm/johnson.pdf

Bottom line - it does look like Daniels got taken by the “Non-Compete Clause”, just as I had mentioned. What a bummer.


20 posted on 01/12/2011 5:09:30 AM PST by BobL
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To: Arlis

Uh Mitch is not a conservative on any issue...and he would rather die than have Bachmann as his VP.


21 posted on 01/12/2011 7:03:51 AM PST by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Arlis

That’s ok.

I think Daniels has his aides working overtime trying to create some buzz on the internet.


22 posted on 01/12/2011 9:46:13 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: BobL

interesting article....doesn’t change my opinion a bit. Daniels is a true conservative and his record pretty much proves it. If you travel the Indiana toll road, you will notice that within ten or so milews of it is a freeway equal in condition to the tollroad.....it goes completely across the state and is FREE. I have no idea why the foreign people leased the tollway(made no sense to me) but they did, and paid billions of dollars to do so......I travel that route to Chicago on a regular basis, and NEVER take the toll road....I’d gain nothing and pay a toll to do so....not me!!!


23 posted on 01/13/2011 6:28:33 PM PST by terycarl (4)
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To: terycarl

“If you travel the Indiana toll road, you will notice that within ten or so milews of it is a freeway equal in condition to the tollroad”

Dammit, it doesn’t show up on my atlas. Would you know the highway number?


24 posted on 01/13/2011 7:17:45 PM PST by BobL
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To: AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; Norman Bates; ...

I just watched the 40-minute Mitch Daniels speech at CPAC. The GOP establishment has a new rock star. We can list the negatives on Daniels ... but I believe that he will catch on real fast and Pawlenty, Thune, Gingrich, Rudy, Barbour will find all the oxygen sucked out of the air by this guy as they go to IA and/or NH. I think he will do that well.

So that it becomes a 3-way race: Palin, Mitt, Daniels

He will become a real threat to knock Romney out the position of “establishment preferred candidate.” He seems well-suited for New Hampshire. I will be surprised if he skips Ames.

(I can also come up with negatives on Daniels that most pro-lifers are not aware of.)


25 posted on 02/13/2011 8:14:56 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: pm58590

That was a long read but well worth it.
I haven’t been the biggest fan of Daniels around here but I have to admit, that speech was great.


26 posted on 02/13/2011 8:44:23 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: campaignPete R-CT

I was about to write something snarkily rude about Daniels, but I’ll just basically say I just don’t care for him. One decent speech doesn’t necessarily mean they’re cut out for the Presidency.


27 posted on 02/13/2011 9:04:13 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Lancey Howard

Lancey, I should have posted here ... video of FRIDAY speech
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2672827/posts

field, be snarky rude.
But, the GOP RINO crowd is DESPERATE for a new star. And I’ve seen Mitt twice up close in person speak and interact with a small crowd. He is bad and somewhat creepy in person. RINOs will dump him for Daniels. Pawlenty has been a dud ... he bored them to tears last week in Iowa. And NH.


28 posted on 02/13/2011 9:14:50 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

field, be snarky, see 28


29 posted on 02/13/2011 9:16:11 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; ..

Mitch Daniels has set back his cause by saying that the GOP should not observe social issues. At the same time, he is a successful Governor.


30 posted on 02/13/2011 9:27:56 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

field, be snarky, see 28


31 posted on 02/13/2011 9:52:32 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy
(I can also come up with negatives on Daniels that most pro-lifers are not aware of.)

Do tell. If the dude isn't good enough we better start gathering all the facts.

32 posted on 02/14/2011 4:02:45 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Arlis

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2673315/posts


33 posted on 02/14/2011 4:32:14 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

Hey, anti .....I’ve repented of liking Daniels.......in dust and ashes!


34 posted on 02/14/2011 5:34:33 AM PST by Arlis (- Virginia loghome/woods-dweller/Jesus lovin'/Bible-totin'/"gun-clinger")
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To: Arlis

Good for you!


35 posted on 02/14/2011 7:08:36 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Impy

long list. start with Eli Lilly. Investigate that one.


36 posted on 02/14/2011 9:10:06 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; GOPsterinMA; Norman Bates; ...
I remember when Daniel's name was being floated for President about a year ago, some freepers had a real revulsion to the thought of him as the nominee. I never quite learned why. I was kind of neutral on him.

If he really wowed people with his CPAC speech and his State of the State address was excellent, I'll have to look into him further to see if this is the horse to back. I've heard some really good things about him. But I also have to see what kind of baggage this guy has that makes so many freepers dislike him. I'm not excited about any of the likely GOP candidates yet.

Daniels wanting to push social issues to the side is disappointing, but as someone who is passionate about social issues, there's two schools of conservative thought that diverge from my own, basically they are:

1) "I'm pro-life, but and I'll pass the pro-life stuff IF it comes before me, but this issue is not a big concern of mine and I'd rather avoid it and focus on other things" (the Fred Thompson/Mitch Daniels mindset)

2) "I'm pro-life, and I'm absolutely horrified about abortion and want it ended -- but gosh darn, as a federal official I can't do ANYTHING about it! The only solution is to completely wash our hands of it and SEND IT BACK TO THE STATES to deal with! Then we'll all pray that Massachuttes is somehow going to ban abortion on their own" (the mindset of many "states rights" Ron Paulittes, though at least Ron himself has voted more like position #1 listed above)

As for me, I'd rather go with a candidate who's esposing the first belief than a "strongly pro-life" candidate eposing the second belief and claiming he has no authority to enforce his beliefs.

37 posted on 02/14/2011 10:17:09 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Listen to the free audio archive of Mark Levin if you want to understand some of the cautions on Daniels—I have not made up my mind on him, but seems ..Levin has issues with him...


38 posted on 02/14/2011 10:24:00 PM PST by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: BillyBoy

Good post. You can also add Chris Christie to the Daniels/FDT group. Christie is 100% pro-life, and has governed that way (as you have pointed out, he has even defunded Planned Parenthood in NJ), but he pointedly has avoided making social issues the centerpiece of his campaign or his administration. Another who campaigned that way was Carly Fiorina in the CA Senate race.

At the end of the day, that “truce” talk is an electoral and coalition-building strategy, not an expression of the candidate’s beliefs. Personally, I believe that it is a smart strategy when running for office or dealing with a Democrat legislature in states like New Jersey and California, which don’t exactly have socially conservative majorities. It is not necessary to nominate a social liberal in those states; but it doesn’t make sense to run a campaign or govern with social issues as one’s centerpiece. But when running for president, there’s a real risk that tge GOP nominee may fail to energize social conservatives sufficiently (and thus fail to win) if he or she doesn’t emphasize social issues enough.


39 posted on 02/15/2011 4:41:07 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: pm58590

He’s a clever guy, but his support for amnesty would assure that fewer conservatives get elected in this country in the future. He essentially would turn off the electricity after being proud that he had kept a night light on while ramping up to his presidential run.


40 posted on 02/15/2011 5:06:02 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: BillyBoy

I am firmly pro-life however I would tend to agree with Mitch Daniels. We are in dire straits and getting our fiscal house in order must be top priority. If good social legislation comes along here and there so be it; but that cannot be the priority. My problem with Mitch Daniels is that I don’t think he has what it takes to win the hearts & minds of the American people.


41 posted on 02/15/2011 8:12:53 AM PST by Norman Bates
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To: BillyBoy

I find it a bit odd that by discussing Mitch, everyone is apt to think we are encouraging others to support him. My reaction to the speech was not to run out and jump on his bandwagon.

My observation was that he will make a splash early in this race and, therefore, will change the script that many are expecting. The current expectation from many is that MITT will do well early, win NH, and stay in the race to the convention as one of the leading 2 candidates.

I saw the potential in Daniels ... that he could be the one that knocks Romney right out the race by running ahead of him in early states (challenging him in NH). The GOP establishment & RINOs may flock to him ... certainly many of those folks don’t care for Romney and have been looking for somebody new. (George Will was giddy introducing and listening to Daniels.) Obviously, many of them are anti-Palin, but they are quietly anti-Mitt. A lot of McCain support amoung party people could have been described as a stop-Romney effort.


42 posted on 02/15/2011 8:27:25 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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