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Jared Loughner. Conscious Dreaming, Mind Control, Controlled Hallucinations
Yahoo/AC ^ | Jan. 12th, 2020 | Sherry Tomfeld

Posted on 01/12/2011 7:27:43 AM PST by stillafreemind

There are directions on the Internet on how to reach conscious dreaming. There are sites that tell you how to induce conscious dreaming through drug use. Yet with all of the discussions on Jared Loughner, very few pundits discuss his use of conscious dreaming or controlled hallucinations. Why?

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: conscious; dreaming; giffords; jaredloughner
What good can come from dabbling in these things?
1 posted on 01/12/2011 7:27:52 AM PST by stillafreemind
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To: stillafreemind

I hear he has taken up boiling water enema’s and soap dropping in prison as a way of getting that silly grin off his face.


2 posted on 01/12/2011 7:33:59 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: stillafreemind
NONE, but that don't stop them from hopeing it will.

Hollywood even made a movie about it, "Inception". I suppose to let some NUTJOB believe it is possible.

Only in their dreams.

3 posted on 01/12/2011 7:34:29 AM PST by annieokie
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To: stillafreemind

The truth is coming out that his father was a vicious,abusive drunk!


4 posted on 01/12/2011 7:35:57 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: A CA Guy

Contrary to what Hollyweird would lead you to believe (because they fantasize about such things) that kind of stuff isn’t nearly as common as you might believe.


5 posted on 01/12/2011 7:44:24 AM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: stillafreemind
Yet with all of the discussions on Jared Loughner, very few pundits discuss his use of conscious dreaming or controlled hallucinations. Why?

Figure out some tenuous connection to Sarah Palin or something, and then you'll get your discussion.

6 posted on 01/12/2011 8:07:24 AM PST by Lonely Bull
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To: stillafreemind
I wonder if it is possible to put yourself into a schizophrenic state of mind using drugs and these techniques.

When did he start playing with this stuff. And when did these symptoms start for Laughner?

Conscious dreaming, lucid dreaming and "controlled hallucinations" have a fairly big following.

7 posted on 01/12/2011 8:22:21 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

I wonder if this damn mad dog killer read those stupid Carlos Castinada stories...

Terrible tragedy to have happen,the **stard has caused so much tears and lives that will never be the same


8 posted on 01/12/2011 8:35:14 AM PST by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: DManA

What if you had an incipient tendency toward adult-onset schizophrenia, and THEN you got into taking hallucinins?

Reportedly he was a major pothead, drank himself into stupors, and smoked that sylivia (sp?) crap.

It seems like the multiplication factors would be seriously crazy making.


9 posted on 01/12/2011 8:36:22 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: stillafreemind

Thanks for posting this. Some provocative ideas here. People are opening doors to places that ought not be opened.


10 posted on 01/12/2011 8:36:38 AM PST by DManA
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To: Harold Shea

I was also thinking of Carlos Casteneda and his body of work.

N.B. that Tucson is in the land of free-range peyote.


11 posted on 01/12/2011 8:37:43 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: DManA

He took a conscious dreaming class at his school. It was the first thing I looked up initially but time limitations prevented me from pursuing it. It’s a good lead and perhaps contributed to his deterioration.


12 posted on 01/12/2011 8:39:20 AM PST by bronxville
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To: DManA

Conscious dreaming...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2653758/posts


13 posted on 01/12/2011 8:43:04 AM PST by bronxville
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To: DManA
"I wonder if it is possible to put yourself into a schizophrenic state of mind using drugs and these techniques. When did he start playing with this stuff. And when did these symptoms start for Laughner? "

Probably.

I also think that it's possible that if you're worshipping at a home made skull altar, that you might become demon possessed with or without drugs.

Same question, when did he start playing with the occult and when did the symptoms start.

14 posted on 01/12/2011 8:44:09 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: bronxville

How does concious dreaming harm people? I have had an occassional lucid dream, usually I wake up as soon as I realize I am dreaming but sometimes can hang on with deliberate effort for a little while. I thought it was fun.


15 posted on 01/12/2011 8:54:01 AM PST by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: HerrBlucher

I suppose it has something to do with what you DO with your lucid dreams. I have them occasionally (non-drug induced). I don’t go looking for an adviser from a spiritual plane.


16 posted on 01/12/2011 9:04:19 AM PST by DManA
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To: HerrBlucher

I thought it was fun.

I usually go flying in mind.


17 posted on 01/12/2011 9:05:16 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Interesting, I meant to say I usually go flying in MINE.

Or did I?


18 posted on 01/12/2011 9:06:16 AM PST by DManA
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To: stillafreemind

"CONCIOUS AND CONTROLLED DREAMIN'....ON A WINTERS DAY!!!

19 posted on 01/12/2011 9:10:05 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: stillafreemind

http://www.catholic.com/audio/2009/mp3/ca090629b.mp3

New Age - Oprah aka Sufism (Islam)etc. The above FR link is a good place to start.

They must get rid of Christianity if they’re to make government into a new god.


20 posted on 01/12/2011 9:10:49 AM PST by bronxville
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To: HerrBlucher

I don’t know about lucid dreams nor much about conscious dreams. I do know it’s the New Age that the UN, George Soros, , Maurice Strong, etc are pushing. Members of the Club of Rome are ardent New Agers specifically Sufism. There’s a lot going on under the radar...their main objective is to rid the globe of Christianity who states that God is where we get our rights. Christians are the enemy. They don’t care what the useless eaters worship so long as it’s not God which is why they’re got a whole mix, such as, space gods, pagan gods/goddess’, sufism, etc. Note how Islam is protected while Christianity is reviled - this isn’t by accident.


21 posted on 01/12/2011 9:51:33 AM PST by bronxville
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22 posted on 01/12/2011 10:27:55 AM PST by bronxville
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To: stillafreemind

The truth, I think. If we’re ready for it.


23 posted on 01/23/2011 7:25:04 PM PST by Thomas Grey
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