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Police: Man Dies After Fight Over Snow Shoveling
http://www.courant.com/community/east-hartford/hc-man-died-in-snow-shovel-fight-0112,0,6484712.story ^ | January 13, 2011 | Melissa Traynor

Posted on 01/13/2011 11:09:36 AM PST by Wile E Coyote Genius

EAST HARTFORD — A man died this morning after a fight involving him and two others that began as an argument over snow shoveling, police said.

Around 8:30 a.m. police were dispatched to the area of 190 Burnside Ave. to respond to a dispute and were later informed that one person was on the ground. Police found that man, Robert Lindsey, 55, but would not disclose if he was injured during the fight. Lindsey was taken to St. Francis Hospital and pronounced dead there.

Police arrested the two other men involved in the scuffle, Edward Rolocut, 48, and Paul Turkowski, 47, and charged them with breach of peace. Lt. Curt Stoldt said that the two men arrested were released Wednesday on $500 non-surety bonds. Lindsey's body will be sent to the state Medical Examiner's Office for an autopsy.

"Pending the results of the examination, the [breach of peace] charges may be changed or upgraded," Stoldt said.

Turkowski and Rolocut are scheduled to appear in court on Jan. 26


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: dead; death; fight; snow; sourcetitlenoturl
Fighting over snow? As in frozen water?

I want to say "Boys if you can't play pretty in the snow then you will have to come inside". At least that is what my Grandma would have said.

This is so stupid.

1 posted on 01/13/2011 11:09:41 AM PST by Wile E Coyote Genius
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

The poor guy never saw it coming.

2 posted on 01/13/2011 11:12:26 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
That is nothing. Read a book called “What Cops Know” and they are often embarrassed to write in the section under “motive” because it is so ludicrous.

For example...

They hear the ice-cream truck, Mr. Softy. Dad sends kid down with 0.15$ for three cones. Kid comes back and says the price is now 0.07/cone. Dad and uncle say “We will see about Mr. Softy”, get in an argument and kill him.

Under “motive” the Police Officer had to write “Ice Cream Cone”.

No joke.

3 posted on 01/13/2011 11:13:19 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
Teaparty has everyone all wound up.

/ sarc

4 posted on 01/13/2011 11:14:50 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
A man died this morning after a fight involving him and two others that began as an argument over snow shoveling, police said.

Had nothing to do with snow, don't ya know...

It has everything to do with the hateful rhetoric coming from the right wing media...

< / Liberal mode >

5 posted on 01/13/2011 11:15:10 AM PST by NorCoGOP (OBAMA: Living proof that hope is not a plan.)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

Sarah Palin made him do it.


6 posted on 01/13/2011 11:16:12 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

Sarah Palin fights a lot of snow in Alaska. It’s her fault.


7 posted on 01/13/2011 11:17:05 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: allmendream

Was the motive the “Ice Cream cone” or the “price?” as in the .07 cents ? The price had gone up and that is what the dad/uncle did not like and were arguing about. I would have wrote down “Price of Ice Cream Cone” or just “price of item being purchased” if I really wanted to avoid making the dad/uncle look like total idots, which they don’t need help in that department.


8 posted on 01/13/2011 11:17:07 AM PST by Wile E Coyote Genius (IQ 207....more than all Democrats combined)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

There is a lot of snow where I am at, and I am no wheres near Alaska!


9 posted on 01/13/2011 11:17:47 AM PST by Wile E Coyote Genius (IQ 207....more than all Democrats combined)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
More likely a fight over where the shoveled snow was being deposited or street parking.
10 posted on 01/13/2011 11:22:05 AM PST by 4yearlurker (I can't afford anymore hope and change!!!!)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
There is a lot of snow where I am at, and I am no wheres near Alaska!

Sure! And that's why Sarah Palin is at fault and not you.

11 posted on 01/13/2011 11:24:40 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: allmendream

The change in price was clearly a result of the devaluation of the dollar. The cop should have written “Federal Reserve monitary policy”.


12 posted on 01/13/2011 11:30:30 AM PST by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Hey I am not complaining about the snow! It keeps the crime rate down in my neighborhood!


13 posted on 01/13/2011 11:30:34 AM PST by Wile E Coyote Genius (IQ 207....more than all Democrats combined)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

In fact I was do one better! If the snow is Sarah’s doing then she lowered the crime rate in my area! GO SARAH!


14 posted on 01/13/2011 11:31:44 AM PST by Wile E Coyote Genius (IQ 207....more than all Democrats combined)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
I would have wrote down “Price of Ice Cream Cone” or just “price of item being purchased”

I would have written down "eight cents."

15 posted on 01/13/2011 11:53:08 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

I dunno. I had to talk a friend down from physical violence one time when the plow came along and bermed his freshly-shoveled driveway into an inaccessible state. I’da hadda call it Justifiable Homicide.


16 posted on 01/13/2011 11:59:40 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: lormand
"Teaparty has everyone all wound wee-weed up."

Fixed it!

17 posted on 01/13/2011 12:05:19 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Perfect!


18 posted on 01/13/2011 12:09:50 PM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

I know the neighborhood.

Archie Bunker types in a decaying old suburbian neighborhood.

The area is HEAVILY union-type democrat.


19 posted on 01/13/2011 12:10:41 PM PST by kidd
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

Sounds like it’s time again for the...(possibly offensive language alert):

Diary of a Snow Shoveler

Author unknown

December 8: 6:00 PM.

It started to snow. The first snow of the season and the wife and I took our cocktails and sat for hours by the window watching the huge soft flakes drift down from heaven. It looked like a Grandma Moses Print. So romantic we felt like newlyweds again. I love snow!

December 9:

We woke to a beautiful blanket of crystal white snow covering every inch of the landscape. What a fantastic sight! Can there be a more lovely place in the Whole World? Moving here was the best idea I’ve ever had. Shoveled for the first time in years and felt like a boy again. I did both our driveway and the sidewalks. This afternoon the snowplow came along and covered up the sidewalks and closed in the driveway, so I got to shovel again. What a perfect life.

December 12:

The sun has melted all our lovely snow. Such a disappointment. My neighbor tells me not to worry, we’ll definitely have a white Christmas. No snow on Christmas would be awful! Bob says we’ll have so much snow by the end of winter, that I’ll never want to see snow again. I don’t think that’s possible. Bob is such a nice man I’m glad he’s our neighbor.

December 14:

Snow lovely snow! 8” last night. The temperature dropped to -20. The cold makes everything sparkle so. The wind took my breath away, but I warmed up by shoveling the driveway and sidewalks. This is the life! The snowplow came back this afternoon and buried everything again. I didn’t realize I would have to do quite this much shoveling, but I’ll certainly get back in shape this way. I wish I wouldn’t huff and puff so.

December 15:

20 inches forecast. Sold my van and bought a 4x4 Blazer. Bought snow tires for the wife’s car and 2 extra shovels. Stocked the freezer. The wife wants a wood stove in case the electricity goes out. I think that’s silly. We aren’t in Alaska, after all.

December 16:

Ice storm this morning. Fell on my ass on the ice in the driveway putting down salt. Hurt like hell. The wife laughed for an hour, which I think was very cruel.

December 17:

Still way below freezing. Roads are too icy to go anywhere. Electricity was off for 5 hours. I had to pile the blankets on to stay warm. Nothing to do but stare at the wife and try not to irritate her. Guess I should’ve bought a wood stove, but won’t admit it to her. God I hate it when she’s right. I can’t believe I’m freezing to death in my own living room.

December 20:

Electricity’s back on, but had another 14” of the damn stuff last night. More shoveling. Took all day. Goddamn snowplow came by twice. Tried to find a neighbor kid to shovel, but they said they’re too busy playing hockey. I think they’re lying. Called the only hardware store around to see about buying a snow blower and they’re out. Might have another shipment in March. I think they’re lying. Bob says I have to shovel or the city will have it done and bill me. I think he’s lying.

December 22:

Bob was right about a white Christmas because 13 more inches of the white shit fell today, and it’s so cold it probably won’t melt till August. Took me 45 minutes to get all dressed up to go out to shovel and then I had to piss. By the time I got undressed, pissed and dressed again. I was too tired to shovel. Tried to hire Bob who has a plow on his truck for the rest of the winter; but he says he’s too busy. I think the asshole is lying.

December 23:

Only 2” of snow today. And it warmed up to 0o. The wife wanted me to decorate the front of the house this morning. What is she nuts!!! Why didn’t she tell me to do that a month ago? She says she did but I think she’s lying.

December 24:

6”. Snow packed so hard by snowplow, l broke the shovel. Thought I was having a heart attack. If I ever catch the son of a bitch who drives that snowplow, I’ll drag him through the snow by his balls. I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over where I’ve just been! Tonight the wife wanted me to sing Christmas Carols with her and open our presents, but I was busy watching for the goddamn snowplow.

December 25:

Merry Christmas. 20 more inches of the !=3D@x@!x!x1 slop tonight. Snowed in. The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil. God I hate the snow! Then the snowplow driver came by asking for a donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel. The wife says I have a bad attitude. I think she’s an idiot. If I have to watch “It’s a Wonderful Life” one more time, I’m going to kill her.

December 26:

Still snowed in. Why the hell did I ever move here? It was all HER idea. She’s really getting on my nerves.

December 27:

Temperature dropped to -30o and the pipes froze.

December 28:

Warmed up to above -50. Still snowed in. THE BITCH is driving me crazy!!!!!

December 29:

10 more inches. Bob says I have to shovel the roof or it could cave in. That’s the silliest thing I ever heard. How dumb does he think I am?

December 30:

Roof caved in. The snow plow driver is suing me for a million dollars. The wife went home to her mother. 9” predicted.

December 31:

Set fire to what’s left of the house. No more shoveling.

January 8:

I feel so good. I just love those little white pills they keep giving me. Why am I tied to the bed?


20 posted on 01/13/2011 12:20:40 PM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: LibWhacker

or,

‘not enough cents’


21 posted on 01/13/2011 12:56:21 PM PST by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: 4yearlurker
More likely a fight over where the shoveled snow was being deposited or street parking.

Mrs. Peet grew up in Eastie. Down there, they'll kill you for parking in "their space" and bury your corpse in a snowbank where it won't be found 'til April or May when the filthy snow melts.
22 posted on 01/13/2011 1:24:13 PM PST by Peet (Leftists think personal liberty is so important it must be carefully rationed.)
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To: jbp1

Killed over two cents (per cone). Six cents total. And probably just a cheap soggy cone as well (not a “waffle cone”). (Or perhaps you were implying “not enough sense”?)

These guys would have gone on a mass killing spree in our neighborhood when the ice cream man drove by. $4 for the cheapest thing on there! I wouldn’t pay it, but told my kids if they wanted to waste their own money “go ahead”.

The rest of the summer they would hear him go by, and they would retell the story of how big a rip-off it is, etc. (I think older brother even spent $5 for an icecream sandwich instead of the $4 freeze pop).


23 posted on 01/13/2011 1:35:59 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: Moltke
I have always found snow-shoveling to be a very pleasant exercise. I have a system that works pretty well for my driveway, which is about 80 feet long and 20 feet wide.

What I do is shovel a path down the middle of the driveway exactly the width of two snow shovels. As I move down the middle of the driveway, I toss the snow into the yard.

Once that is done, I then walk up and down the middle of the cleared path and push the snow to the edge of the driveway. Once that is done, it is then rather easy to lift the snow off the driveway, creating snowbanks on either side of it.

The end of the driveway is the most fun part. That is where the snowplows dump it and this is a very heavy compacted snow, sort of like wet cement. What I do is chip away at it and throw the snow into huge piles on either side of the driveway. These piles are great for storing bottles of beer. The beer stays icy cold but never gets cold enough to freeze. However, if you push the bottles in too deep, you end up not finding them all. You can always tell it's spring in my neighborhood when Heineken bottles start poking out of my snowdrifts.

Meanwhile the snowplows will keep coming by for a while and dumping more snow at the end of the driveway so even when the snow stops falling, you still get to go out every couple hours and still have more snow to shovel.

Once all the snow is finally cleared, I then grab the snow rake and start tackling the roof of the house. What I like about this is that as you rake the snow off the roof, it dumps all over you and you get the feeling that it is snowing once again.

Then the dog is let out and the dog will run all around the yard, looking for a place to relieve itself. This is fun to watch.

24 posted on 01/13/2011 5:30:09 PM PST by SamAdams76
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