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Is it worth joining the American Legion?
01/14/2011 | Oshkalaboomboom

Posted on 01/14/2011 8:09:52 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

I received a form letter inviting me to join the American Legion. Interestingly enough, doing a Google search on "is it worth it to join the American Legion" brings up discussions on left-wing sites like DU saying to avoid it because it's dominated by right wingers. So far so good :-) The next question would be is it worth it? How is it different from the VFW? I meet the AL eligibility by being in Lebanon, not sure if that qualifies me for VFW.

From what I see in their literature they offer a lot of insurance benefits, sort of like AARP but maybe without all of the Socialist leanings. I refuse to join AARP but maybe this organization would be better for me. Comments?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: military; vanity

1 posted on 01/14/2011 8:09:53 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Good question. I'll stand by and see what others say. My Dad was AL but that was back in the 1960’s a much different time. I was VFW, but never got much out of going to the Post meetings, so my attendance naturally dropped.
2 posted on 01/14/2011 8:15:12 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

It’s better than joining the PEACE CORPS.

Unless you like being raped.


3 posted on 01/14/2011 8:18:55 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Maybe you’re looking at this wrong. Maybe it’s not what they can do for you but what you can do for them. I joined not for what I can get out of it, but to help the quickly aging veterans in my local community. And getting to know these old guys and their stores, at the local post, has been priceless.


4 posted on 01/14/2011 8:19:51 AM PST by james_hayes
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I’m junior vice commander of our local Legion post. If you’re looking to joint for the benefits your reap, well...

Our post serves as a service organization to the community. We look for those who have served in our military and want to contribute back to the community in which they live. We encourage our members to attend meetings and functions, and participate in our community events. It makes membership a rewarding experience beyond the “bennies.

As for the VFW, one must have served in a recognized theater of war to be a member. I served during Vietnam, but not IN Vietnam. Thus, I don’t qualify.


5 posted on 01/14/2011 8:20:27 AM PST by bcsco
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I belong to both the Legion and VFW. I don’t like the VFW, too many welfare types (around here at least), too many liberals, and everyone there claims to have been a tunnel-rat in Vietnam who was an inch away from the CMH (yes, I’m exaggerating).

Also, too many drunks at our VFW, who sit around all day at the bar feeling sorry for themselves.

Legion, completely different. Tons of business owners, they have a very positive “can-do” attitude. They do tons for the community (we spend a ton of time going to visit WW2 vets who are stuck at home), they do a great funeral service, and they have tons of activities for vets and widows.

The comparison between the two (here in Chicago-land) is like night and day.

My wife says the VFW is depressing, its like going to the welfare office, while she really enjoys the Legion (just as much as our Eagles or Moose, if not more).

It is definitely a different base of people.

Now, I don’t frequent the VFW much anymore, but I have heard from some friends that it is changing because of the new group of vets from the SandBox that are coming in. So, in all fairness, I have to head over there and see for myself (I haven’t been there in a couple of years).

That’s my synopsis from NW Illinois.


6 posted on 01/14/2011 8:22:32 AM PST by esoxmagnum
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To: NavyCanDo
Goldberg discusses the fascist roots of the AL in Liberal Fascism. Not saying you shouldn't join it. If you go to p. 115 of this book preview, you can read his blurb about the AL.

http://books.google.com/books?id=71QP2lkN3LcC&printsec=frontcover&dq=jonah+goldberg&hl=en&src=bmrr&ei=dXcwTeqVKoT78Abwi832CA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

7 posted on 01/14/2011 8:23:37 AM PST by Feline_AIDS (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

If you have both a VFW and an AL near you - visit and see which one you’d like to be a member of - or both! You don’t have to choose one or the other....

Ask questions about what charities and volunteer work they are involved with - parade, memorial ceremonies, etc.


8 posted on 01/14/2011 8:25:45 AM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: bcsco

“Our post serves as a service organization to the community. We look for those who have served in our military and want to contribute back to the community in which they live.”

That right there is the difference. I always feel the VFW is full of folks wanting an organization that does things for them, while my Legion is an organization that is looking for folks to contribute to the community.

It is a totally different attitude.

You put it in words better than I could have.


9 posted on 01/14/2011 8:26:28 AM PST by esoxmagnum
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
I've been a member for years. They do a lot of good for local communities and vets. Besides, it is rather Conservative and if it will piss off the DU pukes....that alone should be worth the membership.
10 posted on 01/14/2011 8:27:02 AM PST by ladyvet
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To: esoxmagnum
That’s my synopsis from NW Illinois.

Our VFW here in North-Central Illinois is different. They're the ones who do the burial ceremonies. And the membership is fairly conservative. But then again, we're a relatively small community.

Our AL post, of which I'm a member, is small yet community minded. Much of that comes from the fact that a preponderance of members are also members of my Kiwanis club, and have been active as members or officers in both organizations.

11 posted on 01/14/2011 8:29:06 AM PST by bcsco
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To: bcsco

“Our VFW here in North-Central Illinois is different”

I’m in Kane Co., just a couple miles from the Cook border, and I know its different here.

I have been to VFW posts up in northern WI, Minn, Iowa and even one in DeKalb Il that were great, and were completely different than the one we have here.

I am thinking that just the proximity we have to Chicago makes our VFW the way it is.

The Mrs. told me once that she would rather sit in bowling alley tavern than go to our VFW. And she hates bowling alleys and taverns...


12 posted on 01/14/2011 8:36:12 AM PST by esoxmagnum
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To: esoxmagnum

LOL! Loved the part about the VFW. I heard the same thing and I am not ex-military. Any fake former SEALs hanging around with the former tunnel rats? ;-)


13 posted on 01/14/2011 8:45:10 AM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
I finally joint the American Legion a couple of years ago, but not affiliated with any post. My late maternal Grandfather was a charter member of the AL, having served in the trenches of France as an infantryman. My Grandmother was a charter member of the AL Auxillary, so I grew up with them. My Dad and Uncle were in the AL as well, but not as engaged.

I joined in memory of Grandpa Schulz.

14 posted on 01/14/2011 8:52:02 AM PST by Redleg Duke (We didn't limit out, but we nailed a bunch of RATS!)
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To: esoxmagnum

We’re in Rochelle, IL, about 18 miles West of DeKalb. I have friends who are members of the DeKalb organization, and of the Sycamore organization as well. I agree, they’re pretty good organizations.

The DeKalb VFW does the burial ceremonies as well. I attended one last Summer for a good friend’s brother who passed away. They did a superb job in that ceremony. But, again, we’re talking two fairly conservative areas, especially here in Rochelle where we don’t have the university influence...


15 posted on 01/14/2011 8:52:53 AM PST by bcsco
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To: Redleg Duke
I finally joint the American Legion a couple of years ago, but not affiliated with any post.

I did that years ago, but eventually dropped my membership. There wasn't any meaning to it, so why continue. It was our local post's then Commander, and my mentor in the Kiwanis, who kept on me about "reupping". So, I did and have been happy ever since. I suggest you inquire into posts around you, and visit them. See what they have to offer. You may well find it very worthwhile.

16 posted on 01/14/2011 8:57:31 AM PST by bcsco
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To: Frantzie

lol, I don’t recall for sure, but yeah, I’m sure there are a dis-proportionate number of them....

Our VFW had no common grunts who drove trucks or bulldozers, no dental assistants, nothing like that, just war heroes with a million stories to tell to anyone willing to pay for their next round of Budweiser.

Our VFW has more M65 jackets than the local army surplus. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy in the Legion wear a field jacket or combat boots to spaghetti dinner or casino night.

Not trying to knock it, but I gave up wearing that stuff the day I got home. I will humbly wear a dress uniform for a parade or a wake/funeral if required, but I’m not the type to sit at a bar and wear fatigues, which seems to be the required dress code at our VFW (that or a leather biker vest is a close 2nd).


17 posted on 01/14/2011 8:58:32 AM PST by esoxmagnum
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

My whole family is in the American Legion family.
Dad is a Legion member,
2 Brothers and Hubby- members of Legion, Sons of the American legion and the American Legion Riders,
My son is in the SAL,
I am a member of the Legion Auxillary.
Heck my 5 yr old daughter is in the Junior Auxillary.
the American Legion is very much about service to community and veterans. They do color guard duty on Memorial day, at parades, Veterans day events. They have a transportation service for veterans who cannot drive. They help out with yard work, clean up after storms, make sure our veterans are okay when bad weather hits.
It is my opinion the American Legion is one of the greatest organizations you can be involved with.


18 posted on 01/14/2011 9:09:13 AM PST by madamemayhem (defeat is not getting knocked down, it is not getting back up.)
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To: esoxmagnum

It sounds encouraging. We have a local post that meets in a National Guard armory, I think I’ll check out their next meeting to see what it’s like.


19 posted on 01/14/2011 9:09:32 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: esoxmagnum

I’d have to ask them, but I’ve not seen any of our AL members in uniform. The caps, yes. I too have one. We wear them at our meetings (those of us who hold office), and all members wear them for public events, or at post special functions such as our installation and Christmas banquets.

Even at our installation banquet last year, the division and state officials who attended did not wear uniforms.


20 posted on 01/14/2011 9:10:34 AM PST by bcsco
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To: bcsco

Oh yeah, I’ve been to that one in Rochelle. Had a buddy who belonged to that golf course out there. There used to be a deli owned by a crazy Italian guy out there, kind of by the Wal-mart, he made the best subs and had some really great home-made olive mix.

I’m not far from the Sycamore one, but have never actually been there.

I have a fair number of customers out that way, Burlington, Sycamore and Dekalb, so I really should make an effort, because the VFW in Elgin is a pit (or was a pit last I was in there). I will definitely put it on my list to check out before summer.


21 posted on 01/14/2011 9:12:58 AM PST by esoxmagnum
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To: bcsco

I’m in the W Dundee Legion, post 57. Hats are standard. Uniforms for parades (sometimes) or when we put to rest one of our own, or if requested by family members of any vet.

I was mainly referring to our VFW, where I have never seen so many field jackets at a bar. I bet I can count on one hand the number of field jackets I’ve seen at our Legion Post, and it has been years since.

Legion is just a different clientele from the VFW where I’m at. I like it much more.


22 posted on 01/14/2011 9:22:26 AM PST by esoxmagnum
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To: esoxmagnum

That golf course is now public. Rates this past year were $30 weekends with cart. The course is very well maintained. And the restaurant provides fine food. My Kiwanis club (as well as the Rotary and Lions) have their meetings there. I play there several times a year, but have a membership in a course in Malta.

The ‘crazy Italian, may be the guy who owns a fine eatery downtown now. Great place for Italian food, or to stop off for a beer. He’s been very generous in helping the high school Key Club that our Kiwanis organization supports. If you’re ever in the area, drop by for a good meal, lunch or dinner.

Our AL meets every other even month on the 2nd Tuesday. Dinner plus meeting.


23 posted on 01/14/2011 9:22:58 AM PST by bcsco
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

How about the French Foreign Legion?


24 posted on 01/14/2011 9:44:23 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: esoxmagnum

Lots of tons in your post, good buddy. You musta been in Transportation (or supply?).


25 posted on 01/14/2011 10:06:04 AM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: esoxmagnum

LOL! Thanks. Funny stories. A bar full of Audie Murphys.

A relative served and someone asked him why he never went to the VFW and he said some things like that. Lots of boozers.

The thing that really enraged me is the fake Vietnam Vets detailed in that book Stolen Valor which talked about fakes getting benefits and making Vets look bad. I made 2000 + get out the vote calls for Bush. The main reason is because Kerry is a scum and what he did after he got back from his 6 months in Nam. Self promoting lefty and Kennedy shill.

He got his Kennedy admiral connections to get him in the local coast guard boat gig. Then somebody in the USN changed the mission on those boats to upriver work. Kerry must have had a heart attack that day. What a creep he is.


26 posted on 01/14/2011 10:09:35 AM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; All
Benefits? What about the ability to serve in several worthwhile programs? Your Legion Post is what you and your fellow Post members make of it. There are many fine programs serving veterans and youth. Go for it!

Didn't serve in the military but have a parent who did? Join the Sons of the American Legion and get involved with the same programs.

FReepmail me if you need to know how.

27 posted on 01/14/2011 10:15:56 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: NonValueAdded
Benefits? What about the ability to serve in several worthwhile programs?

I guess it's been a while since you've seen any of their membership solicitations. The ability to serve takes up 1 paragraph while the rest of the multi-page advert tells about all of the "stuff" you can get.

28 posted on 01/14/2011 1:23:30 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Migraine

lol, yes indeed, was it that obvious?


29 posted on 01/15/2011 1:26:30 AM PST by esoxmagnum
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I just got my invitation, so I googled “american legion” site:freerepublic.com, and found your thread. :-)

I don’t even know if I technically qualify. I was a reservist my entire time, and never activated, so I may not meet the criteria. And they probably won’t be impressed if I pretend to have served with Chuck Norris on Delta Team, lol!


30 posted on 07/10/2011 10:02:36 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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