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What would happen if Sarah Palin suggested a more assertive US trade policy?
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Posted on 01/18/2011 2:42:21 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network

Sorry for back-to-back trade policy vanities.

Was reviewing the posts just now, and got to pondering.

The left reflexively opposes Sarah Palin. They don't know why, I think it's they're having flashbacks to Anita Bryant.

Meanwhile the right, is in a coma, regarding our trade policies. Willfully ignoring the problem, IMHO.

Solution to both problems:


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: chaos; entertainment; palin; vanity
I suggest Sarah Palin could shake both sides up, by publicly suggesting American trade policy as currently practiced is nothing short of national suicide, and propose we begin protecting US jobs aggressively.

The left would totally lose their bearings to such an extent, we could see a surge in "Palin Democrats", for all the same reasons there were so many Reagan Democrats.

And perhaps, it's what just might wake up some, on our side to the very real problem.

What say you? :)

1 posted on 01/18/2011 2:42:26 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

theres nothing wrong with the trade policy, its the business/tax policy thats wrong. Free trade is good for society because it allocate resources more efficiently giving consumers the best and cheapest option


2 posted on 01/18/2011 2:46:35 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

When we are creating history’s richest, strongest communist rival.

There’s something wrong with our trade policy.


3 posted on 01/18/2011 2:47:40 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy was Right.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I absolutely agree with you 100%. Free trade has destroyed the steel industry in Eastern Ohio and Western PA. If Palin took the side of Reagan Democrats on this issue, it would be to our benefit as a country.


4 posted on 01/18/2011 2:51:59 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The US is creating a powerful rival because it has totally hamstrung itself from effectively producing wealth.

China produces stuff for America because America is overegulated, overtaxed, miseducated (in Govt schools) and leaves crazy legal vulnerabilities hanging over its businesses.


5 posted on 01/18/2011 2:54:21 AM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Why should Americans be forced to buy expensive steel from inefficient, overtaxed, overregulated domestic suppliers?

Why do you want taxpayers to pay for a vast addition to the welfare state, in the shape of featherbedded steelworkers?


6 posted on 01/18/2011 2:56:41 AM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: agere_contra

because it is OUR country

and we need to stop the overtaxation and regulation. Sarah Palin would agree.


7 posted on 01/18/2011 2:58:22 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: agere_contra

Whatever the reason, we need to act.

No more time, for endless debates as the the reason(s) we’re in this national mess. I certainly don’t disagree with your reasoning, but this is not some intellectual exercise!

Our Republic is in terrible danger. Most have no clue, what we’re up against. And seem to prefer it that way.

I would expect that sort of willful avoidance from the left.

It’s disturbing, to see the same stubborn avoidance of uncomfortable realities, from our side.


8 posted on 01/18/2011 3:02:30 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy was Right.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Protectionist trade policies are what allowed unions to flourish and turned the US auto industry into the abomination that it is today. There’s no incentive for efficiency or improvement. As you fall behind more and more you just cry to the government for more protection. Meanwhile, it’s American consumers who are paying the price.

What you’re advocating is a nanny state for business.


9 posted on 01/18/2011 4:11:00 AM PST by Domalais
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To: 4rcane
Free trade is good for society because it allocate resources more efficiently giving consumers the best and cheapest option

That theory is BS when dealing with a Communist slave state. All countries are not created equally.

Tariffs would be a very good idea. Maybe a 10% duty from every communists country that wants to enjoy our free society and markets. Call it a freedom tariff.

10 posted on 01/18/2011 4:13:34 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: agere_contra
Why should Americans be forced to buy expensive steel from inefficient, overtaxed, overregulated domestic suppliers?

Try building one of these without steel.

Yes, there will be wars. Next question.

11 posted on 01/18/2011 4:16:23 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Domalais
What you’re advocating is a nanny state for business.

Perfectly profitable non-union companies moved their production to China. Greed is good. Greed when it endangers National Security is evil. We the people get to make the call when things have gone to far. When companies start pussy footing with ChiComs, I have a problem.

12 posted on 01/18/2011 4:19:44 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

theres No “we” are creating the history’s richest strong communist rival. “They’re” creating the history’s richest strong capitalist rival.

This makes me very sad. So called right wingers on here turn a blind eye to the ideology when they think their ideology is somehow responsible for destroying their country, which is misplaced.


13 posted on 01/18/2011 4:51:03 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: central_va
Perfectly profitable non-union companies moved their production to China.

Japan was the source of cheap, unreliable crap in the 60s and 70s, and now look at them. What would have happened if they used trade policy to protect their monopoly on dollar-store squirtguns?

There are thousands of industries that have flourished in the US only to move elsewhere when our country's economy improved and evolved. Are you upset that the sweatshop manufacture of sneakers moved to China? Painting of mass produced toys?
14 posted on 01/18/2011 4:56:56 AM PST by Domalais
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To: Domalais

It is really hard as a conservative to criticize the great unwashed in this country for being “lazy” when we outsource production and have an open border with Mexico.


15 posted on 01/18/2011 5:15:04 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I don’t think that artificially creating jobs through trade policy is the solution to that problem. That would be essentially no different from having them on welfare or paying them to break rocks.


16 posted on 01/18/2011 5:21:25 AM PST by Domalais
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To: Domalais
I don’t think that artificially creating jobs through trade policy is the solution to that problem.

There is nothing artificial about it. It is both socially less expensive and financially less expensive. OTH we could keep taxing the middle class to death to pay for our "lazy" workers.

Tariffs are the answer because oursourcing has a cost, whether you want to admit it or not.

Factories that make toys today can be converted into making armamants tomorrow, if needed. The problem is when you need the factory and it is now in enemy territory!

17 posted on 01/18/2011 5:29:17 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If Palin wants to WIN, getting the vast majority of Republicans and Democrats and even some Democrats, I recommend the platform below.

- no Wall Street careerists in the administration
- any bank “too big to fail” needs to be broken up
- no more borrowing from the government at 0% and lending to it at 5%
- time to value bank assets at market and bring transparency to balance sheets

Campaign slogan: In the Palin administration, the word “bailout” will refer only to jumping from airplanes.”


18 posted on 01/18/2011 5:42:21 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
What would 'protect American jobs' is a business friendly federal government dismantling rules, regulations, labor/union laws and a tax system that force entrepreneurs to make the choice to go elsewhere with their businesses instead of staying here.

Let human nature and economics work for us instead of forcing humans to do what is not in their best interest. Common sense 101.

19 posted on 01/18/2011 6:33:32 AM PST by GBA (Not on our watch!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I think the more general theme for Sarah should be, “The President should be doing everything possible to grow the economy, help American companies who will employ American workers, and keep those jobs here.”

I am in favor of free trade. Unfortunately, countries such as China levy import duties and we do not match them. That’s not free trade; it’s allowing the other party unfair advantage.

Obama is anti-business which means he is anti-US jobs. Sarah can communicate that as well as Reagan did.


20 posted on 01/18/2011 11:11:13 AM PST by darth
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
because it is OUR country

Exactly. Nothing need be added to the argument. We don't do everything perfectly as far as business and government are concerned but dammit, it's OUR country. America first.

The free market is merely a means to an end. It is but one of many tools nations can use to make themselves safe, peaceful and prosperous. It is not some holy end in itself.

21 posted on 01/18/2011 4:48:43 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: 4rcane
So called right wingers on here turn a blind eye to the ideology when they think their ideology...

Burkean conservatism is a rejection of ideology. Maybe there's your problem. Libertarianism is the embracing of ideology. A materialist ideology at that. Maybe you were a libertarian, who thought they were conservative and didn't know it.

22 posted on 01/18/2011 4:53:31 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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