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Robert E. Lee: Remembering An American Legend
Canada Free Press ^ | January 18, 2011 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 01/18/2011 2:13:15 PM PST by BigReb555

Young people will get a school holiday in remembrance of Dr. Martin Luther King whose birthday is January 15th. But, will anyone tell them that January 19th is also the birthday of Robert E. Lee?

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America has always loved her heroes like: Baseball Legend-Babe Ruth, Golf Great-Ben Hogan, Movie Actor-John Wayne and…..

Wednesday, January 19, 2011, is the 204th birthday of General Robert E. Lee.

Young people will get a school holiday in remembrance of Dr. Martin Luther King whose birthday is January 15th. But, will anyone tell them that January 19th is also the birthday of Robert E. Lee?

Booker T. Washington, America’s great Black-American Educator wrote in 1910, quote “The first white people in America, certainly the first in the South to exhibit their interest in the reaching of the Negro and saving his soul through the medium of the Sunday-school were Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson.” unquote

During Robert E. Lee’s 100th birthday in 1907, Charles Francis Adams, Jr., a former Union Army Commander and grandson of United States President John Quincy Adams, spoke in tribute to Robert E. Lee at Washington and Lee College’s Lee Chapel in Lexington, Virginia. His speech was printed in both Northern and Southern newspapers and is said to had lifted Lee to a renewed respect among the American people.

Robert E. Lee-Stonewall Jackson Day events are planned for Saturday, January 15, 2011, in Lexington, Virginia that includes a Memorial at Lee Chapel featuring Guest Speaker Kenny J. Rowlette with topic: Opposites In Command—The Legendary Partnership of Lee and Jackson. For additional information go to: http://leejacksonday.webs.com/

And the Georgia Division Sons of Confederate Veterans will sponsor their 24th Annual Robert E. Lee birthday celebration on Saturday, January 22, 2011, in the Legislative Chambers of Georgia’s Old Capitol in Milledgeville, Georgia that will begin with a parade to the Old Capitol at 10:45 AM.

Many more events are planned for Robert E. Lee…. who was born at “Stratford” in Westmoreland County, Virginia, on January 19, 1807. The winter was cold and fireplaces were little help for Robert's mother, Ann Hill (Carter) Lee.

Ann Lee named her son "Robert Edward" after her two brothers.

Robert E. Lee undoubtedly acquired his love of country from those who had lived during the American Revolution. His father, "Light Horse" Harry, was a hero of the revolution and served as Governor of Virginia and as a member of the U.S. House of Representatives. Members of his family also signed the Declaration of Independence. Lee was educated in the schools of Alexandria, Virginia. In 1825, he received an appointment to West Point Military Academy. He graduated in 1829, second in his class and without a single demerit.

Robert E. Lee wed Mary Anna Randolph Custis in June 1831, two years after his graduation from West Point. Robert and Mary had grown up together. Mary was the daughter of George Washington Parke Custis, the grandson of Martha Washington and the adopted son of George Washington.

Mary was an only child; therefore, she inherited Arlington House, across the Potomac from Washington, where she and Robert raised seven children.

In 1836, Lee was appointed to first lieutenant. In 1838, with the rank of captain, Lee fought valiantly in the War with Mexico and was wounded at the Battle of Chapultepec.

He was appointed superintendent of West Point in 1852 and is considered one of the best superintendents in that institution's history.

General Winfield Scott offered Robert E. Lee command of the Union Army in 1861, but he refused. He said, “I cannot raise my hand against my birthplace, my home, my children.”

Lee served as adviser to Confederate President Jefferson Davis, and then commanded the legendary Army of Northern Virginia.

After four terrible years of death and destruction, General Robert E. Lee met General Ulysses S. Grant at Appomattox, Virginia, and ended their battles.

In the fall of 1865, Lee was offered and accepted the presidency of troubled Washington College in Lexington, Virginia. The school was renamed Washington and Lee in his honor.

Robert E. Lee died at 9:30 on the morning of October 12, 1870, at Washington-Lee College.

He is buried in a chapel on the school grounds with his family and near his favorite horse, Traveller.

President Theodore Roosevelt described General Robert E. Lee as "the very greatest of all the great captains that the English-speaking peoples have brought forth."

1 posted on 01/18/2011 2:13:18 PM PST by BigReb555
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To: BigReb555

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/fle18
Robert E Lee in Texas 1855-61.
One of my buddies has a deer lease in the property that confines Camp Cooper and he was allowed to see it.


2 posted on 01/18/2011 2:24:29 PM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: BigReb555

Robert E. Lee-Stonewall Jackson Day bump


3 posted on 01/18/2011 2:25:20 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: BigReb555
Didn't you already post this thread a couple of days ago?

Here

4 posted on 01/18/2011 2:35:29 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: BigReb555

I would honor Robert E. Lee for good sportsmanship, if I could. Very few people took defeat, and the terms of Reconstruction following the Civil War, or any war, for that matter, as well as he did. I personally think we should emphasize him for some points, because generally, a lot of people seem to have forgotten good sportsmanship nowadays. Robert E. Lee wasn’t all bad, and some of his better virtues we have a serious need for nowadays.


5 posted on 01/18/2011 2:37:02 PM PST by Morpheus2009 ("God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein)
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To: Morpheus2009
Very few people took defeat, and the terms of Reconstruction following the Civil War, or any war, for that matter, as well as he did.

The terms were more generous than any in the history of warfare. Took it well? He couldn't believe his good luck.

6 posted on 01/18/2011 2:40:41 PM PST by DManA
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To: ├čudda├čudd
Robert E. Lee-Stonewall Jackson Day bump

Cue the haters....

7 posted on 01/18/2011 2:49:56 PM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: mac_truck; BigReb555
Didn't you already post this thread a couple of days ago?

You know, I missed it. So I'm grateful for this thread which helped educate me about some of the things our government schools failed to point out to me when I was young.

I might even read one of those Lee biographies I have on my shelves because of it.

ML/NJ

8 posted on 01/18/2011 2:50:14 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: DManA
The terms were more generous than any in the history of warfare.

Really? What histories are you reading?

I know this is the cr@p that is taught to kids in school, but looking at thing now, I see that the Germans and the Japanese were allowed to maintain the essence of their cultures. Would you say that the South was permitted to maintain the essence of its culture?

ML/NJ (Honest Yankee)

9 posted on 01/18/2011 2:55:45 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: BigReb555

A great American.


10 posted on 01/18/2011 2:56:24 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: BigReb555

My great grandmother was named after Robert E Lee even though she was a girl.

Interesting tidbit - R.E. Lee freed his slaves before the war but U.S. Grant owned slaves throughout the war and did not free them until the 13th amendment was ratified


11 posted on 01/18/2011 3:04:25 PM PST by slumber1 (Texas Rangers - 2010 American League Champions!)
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To: mac_truck

Yes, but a differennt news site. This was published today, one day before Robert E. Lee’s birthday.

You just can’t speak or write enough about General Robert E. Lee.

There are few who can stand up to him today.


12 posted on 01/18/2011 3:05:07 PM PST by BigReb555
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To: Deaf Smith

bttt


13 posted on 01/18/2011 3:09:53 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!!!)
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To: DManA

The terms were more generous than any in the history of warfare. Took it well? He couldn’t believe his good luck.

He showed up better than U.S. Grant at Appomattox Court House, he did not complain much about the possibility of integration following the war, and did not feel we should go to separate churches from the former slaves. If that is not taking it well, I don’t know what is.

I do agree with you that Lincoln and the other higher-ups are also key to the terms Lee received, but just because Lee was in the Confederacy doesn’t equate with him being all bad.


14 posted on 01/18/2011 3:14:46 PM PST by Morpheus2009 ("God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein)
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To: slumber1

Grant owned slaves?? Where are the references for that one?


15 posted on 01/18/2011 3:28:17 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RJS1950
Grant owned slaves?? Where are the references for that one?

Go to Google and search for "grant owned slaves". It's never been a secret.

16 posted on 01/18/2011 3:36:47 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: slumber1

US Grant never owned slaves. He was too poor.
I have read his autobiography, several biographies, and several other books that included facts about US Grant.

Slaves, fraid not.


17 posted on 01/18/2011 3:37:43 PM PST by american_ranger
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To: RJS1950

http://www.nps.gov/ulsg/historyculture/slaveryatwh.htm


18 posted on 01/18/2011 3:38:58 PM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: BigReb555
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19 posted on 01/18/2011 3:42:10 PM PST by Hotmetal (GO DAWGS !!!!!!!)
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To: RJS1950

Grant was one of 12 U.S. presidents who owned slaves at some point in their lives. His wife inherited some from his father in law but Grant himself bought at least one more in 1858 when he was working as a farmer near St. Louis. His wife had 4 slaves. Although it is unclear who actually held title to them, Grant and his wife certainly had the use of them. These slaves were not freed until the ratification of the 13th amendment.

http://stason.org/TULARC/history/civil-war-usa/30-Did-U-S-Grant-and-R-E-Lee-both-own-slaves-and-free-the.html

Also cited here > http://home.nas.com/lopresti/ps.htm


20 posted on 01/18/2011 3:43:20 PM PST by slumber1 (Texas Rangers - 2010 American League Champions!)
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To: cowboyway
Cue the haters....

Eat Sh*t, yankee.

21 posted on 01/18/2011 4:09:46 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6

cowboyway isn’t a yankee.


22 posted on 01/18/2011 4:18:16 PM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: slumber1

By court order five years and more following the death of the owner and father-in-law in 1857, deed of manumission, Court of the City of Richmond, Virginia, December 29, 1862.

My name is Wesley Norris; I was born a slave on the plantation of George Parke Custis; after the death of Mr. Custis, Gen. Lee, who had been made executor of the estate, assumed control of the slaves, in number about seventy; it was the general impression among the slaves of Mr. Custis that on his death they should be forever free; in fact this statement had been made to them by Mr. C. years before; at his death we were informed by Gen. Lee that by the conditions of the will we must remain slaves for five years; I remained with Gen. Lee for about seventeen months, when my sister Mary, a cousin of ours, and I determined to run away, which we did in the year 1859; we had already reached Westminster, in Maryland, on our way to the North, when we were apprehended and thrown into prison, and Gen. Lee notified of our arrest; we remained in prison fifteen days, when we were sent back to Arlington; we were immediately taken before Gen. Lee, who demanded the reason why we ran away; we frankly told him that we considered ourselves free; he then told us he would teach us a lesson we never would forget; he then ordered us to the barn, where, in his presence, we were tied firmly to posts by a Mr. Gwin, our overseer, who was ordered by Gen. Lee to strip us to the waist and give us fifty lashes each, excepting my sister, who received but twenty; we were accordingly stripped to the skin by the overseer, who, however, had sufficient humanity to decline whipping us; accordingly Dick Williams, a county constable, was called in, who gave us the number of lashes ordered; Gen. Lee, in the meantime, stood by, and frequently enjoined Williams to ““lay it on well,”” an injunction which he did not fail to heed; not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done. After this my cousin and myself were sent to Hanover Court-House jail, my sister being sent to Richmond to an agent to be hired; we remained in jail about a week, when we were sent to Nelson county, where we were hired out by Gen. Lee’s agent to work on the Orange and Alexander railroad; we remained thus employed for about seven months, and were then sent to Alabama, and put to work on what is known as the Northeastern railroad; in January, 1863, we were sent to Richmond, from which place I finally made my escape through the rebel lines to freedom; I have nothing further to say; what I have stated is true in every particular, and I can at any time bring at least a dozen witnesses, both white and black, to substantiate my statements: I am at present employed by the Government; and am at work in the National Cemetary on Arlington Heights, where I can be found by those who desire further particulars; my sister referred to is at present employed by the French Minister at Washington, and will confirm my statement.

—Testimony of Wesley Norris (1866); reprinted in John W. Blassingame (ed.): Slave Testimony: Two Centuries of Letters, Speeches, and Interviews, and Autobiographies Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press (ISBN 0-8071-0273-3). 467-468.


23 posted on 01/18/2011 5:03:56 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: BigReb555

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Yes, but a differennt news site. This was published today, one day before Robert E. Lee’s birthday.

You just can’t speak or write enough about General Robert E. Lee.

There are few who can stand up to him today.
[Unquote]

“I tremble for my country when I hear of confidence expressed in me. I know too well my weakness, that our only hope is in God.” Robeert E. Lee


24 posted on 01/18/2011 5:19:18 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: american_ranger

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US Grant never owned slaves. He was too poor.
I have read his autobiography, several biographies, and several other books that included facts about US Grant.

Slaves, fraid not.
[Unquote]

In Mary Robinson’s July 24, 1885, recollections, during an interview for the St. Louis Republican memorial to Grant following his death, she noted that “he always said he wanted to give his wife’s slaves their freedom as soon as he was able.” In 1859, Grant freed William Jones, the only slave he is known to have owned. During the Civil War, some slaves at White Haven simply walked off, as they did on many plantations in both Union and Confederate states. Missouri’s constitutional convention abolished slavery in the state in January 1865, freeing any slaves still living at White Haven.

“I Ulysses S. Grant…do hereby manumit, emancipate and set free from Slavery my Negro man William, sometimes called William Jones…forever.”

Slavery at White Haven, Ulysses S. Grant, National Historic Site, National Park Service, U.S. Department of the Interior.
http://www.nps.gov/ulsg/historyculture/slaveryatwh.htm


25 posted on 01/18/2011 5:36:30 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: slumber1

Wrong. Grant owned a single slave, William Jones, whom he acquired from his father-in-law, for a total of about 10 months in 1858. The man was rented out to small farmers in the area as labor, but the idea didn’t really work out and Grant freed him outright, even though he could have sold him for some much needed income. The 13th amendment was passed in 1864. It had nothing do with Grant’s decision to free Jones.

You may be thinking of the slaves his wife’s father owned, one or two of whom served his wife sporadically during the war. Neither Julia Grant nor US Grant were the owners of record of these slaves.

You’re also wrong about RE Lee. The slaves at Arlington were not freed by Lee, who was the executor of the estate, until Dec. 29, 1862.


26 posted on 01/18/2011 5:53:34 PM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Deaf Smith

all the facts/truth we need...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/lincoln-arch.html

also: google Dr Thomas DiLorenzo


27 posted on 01/18/2011 6:10:46 PM PST by gunnyg (WE ARE BEHIND "ENEMY WITHIN" LINES, SURROUNDED, November? Ha! ...So Few Can "grok" It.)
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To: slumber1

Interesting tidbit. Too bad it’s upside down.

Robert E. Lee’s viewpoint on slavery was fairly moderate for the times. He thought that they were better off here in America as slaves than free in Africa. Yet he and his wife helped to relocate free blacks to Liberia. He viewed slavery as “God’s will” if he thought of it at all, and the slaves that he had contact with were of the man-servant or Man’s man variety.

He kept his personal slave, Rev. William Mack Lee throughout the war and when William was freed, he chose to stay with REL.

US Grant, on the other hand owned no slaves, except for William Jones, whom he acquired from his father-in-law in order to manumit. Grant married Julia Dent, whose family were slave owners and Grant worked as an overseer to his Father in law’s business for a time.


28 posted on 01/18/2011 7:46:10 PM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: slumber1
U.S. Grant owned slaves throughout the war and did not free them until the 13th amendment was ratified

This story gets more lurid in the retelling as time goes on. It is true that Lee opposed slavery and secession. Grant was a Stephen Douglas, i.e. tolerant of slavery, Democrat before the war. Grant lived in Illinois, a free state, before the war. His father in law lived in Missouri and did own slaves.

29 posted on 01/19/2011 1:20:17 AM PST by iowamark
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To: HIDEK6; southernsunshine; mstar; Idabilly; central_va; TexConfederate1861; mojitojoe
Eat Sh*t, yankee.

I can see how you would make that mistake and perhaps a short explanation is in order.

As you know, the 150th anniversary of Secession (South Carolina seceded on December 20, 1860), the birth of The Confederacy and The War of Northern Aggression begins this year. Because of that, a lot of threads about that subject have been posted on FR lately. These type threads have been going on for years but there have been more lately.

Anybody that reads these threads will quickly realize that the animosity and anger that led to secession and the war between the north and South still exists. Some people wring their hands and whine, "Why can't we all get along!" or, "Who cares about that ancient history!"

However, there is another contingent that we Rebs refer to as The Coven (coined by stand watie). The Coven is full of hate for the South and they roll in on every thread posting yankee lies, mythology, revisionist history, hate and anger. They use leftist/marxist tactics to attack The South, The Confederacy, Southerners and anybody that post a pro-Southern reply. (one of their members is an admitted 'former' marxist!)

It is suspected that a few of their number are libtard trolls from DU and other left wing radical websites who pose as conservatives and start these flame wars on Confederate threads (they infiltrate other threads also) in order to portray FR and conservatives as divided. One of their most infamous members, non-sequitur, was recently zotted (he had a couple of other FR identities that were also banned; darren whyte and abin sur).

Perhaps my sarcastic "cue the haters" reply makes more sense now.

30 posted on 01/19/2011 5:36:33 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: cowboyway
Yes. Sorry that I misinterpreted who you were.

We met in the basement this morning to sing a chorus of Dixie in honor of General Lee.

31 posted on 01/19/2011 6:03:00 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: cowboyway
Another one bites the dust,,,,not sure who Zoted him but I'll take the blame glad to see him gone,,always trying to pick a fight

usmcobra

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His telling of how the Confederate Navy captured a Nazi U Boat in WWII was quite remarkable, this from a Man that did not even know who stood outside the Confederate Museum in New Orleans..... 181 posted on Sunday, January 16, 2011 8:35:01 PM by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 170 | View Replies | Report Abuse] This account has been banned or suspended.

Okay

32 posted on 01/19/2011 6:04:18 AM PST by piroque (Southern born and Raised,Love "G R I T S")
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To: piroque; cowboyway
Another one bites the dust,,,,not sure who Zoted him but I'll take the blame glad to see him gone,,always trying to pick a fight

usmcobra

Thanks for the info, Piroque! Didn't know that one was gone.

Cowboy, I remember the day you outed him as a troll! We've got another one on these threads whose prose and style seems eerily similar to usmcobra's. Betcha you already know which one it is.

33 posted on 01/19/2011 6:34:30 AM PST by southernsunshine
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To: mstar

Forgot to include you in #33.


34 posted on 01/19/2011 6:36:00 AM PST by southernsunshine
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To: WhiskeyX

And? Please tell me that you’re not honestly expecting a man who was born, raised, educated, lived and died in the 19th Century to hold to 20th and 21st Century ideas of equality?

Are you really that stupid?


35 posted on 01/19/2011 6:44:21 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: southernsunshine; piroque

36 posted on 01/19/2011 6:48:57 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: piroque; usmcobra

Hey Cobra - It appears that reports of your untimely demise have been greatly exaggerated. You are one resilient sumbitch!

;-)


37 posted on 01/19/2011 7:03:08 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: paladin1_dcs
And? Please tell me that you’re not honestly expecting a man who was born, raised, educated, lived and died in the 19th Century to hold to 20th and 21st Century ideas of equality? Are you really that stupid?

There was a thread yesterday about the NAACP sponsored MLK rally in Columbia, South Carolina on Monday discussing a picture of the statue of George Washington being covered up for the event. (I'm assuming because Washington owned slaves and to protect the delicate sensibilities of the melanin enriched attendees.)

I wonder if WhiskeyX and his politically correct cohorts are proponents of erasing from history all of those evil slaveholders that founded, fought for and built this country?

I also wonder what WhiskeyX and his politically correct cohorts would have to say about RE Lee if he had stayed in the union army? (I suspect that his sins for slavery would have received the typical yankee historical whitewashing.)

38 posted on 01/19/2011 7:10:21 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: rockrr
Hey Cobra - It appears that reports of your untimely demise have been greatly exaggerated. You are one resilient sumbitch!

The mods have their crosshairs on you guys. It's just a matter of time.

BTW, how many Southern states were you born and raised in as of today? My last count was three: Alabama, Louisiana and Virginia.

39 posted on 01/19/2011 7:13:57 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: southernsunshine
Cowboy, I remember the day you outed him as a troll! We've got another one on these threads whose prose and style seems eerily similar to usmcobra's. Betcha you already know which one it is

usmcobra isn't banned. He just made his about page appear that way. It's part of his troll persona.

40 posted on 01/19/2011 7:15:52 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: southernsunshine

Sorry buddy but I only use one screen name and I have always admitted to being a “Troll™”(from Jim Rome’s Smack Chat) and no one has ever had therefore to expose me.


41 posted on 01/19/2011 7:50:14 AM PST by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!)
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To: cowboyway; southernsunshine; central_va; Idabilly; mojitojoe; HIDEK6; BigReb555
there is another contingent that we Rebs refer to as The Coven (coined by stand watie).

Hey guys. . . after my 2nd cup of coffee following by a Diet Dr. Pepper, I sorta kinda can comprehend this thread.

Wow a "FR Reb/Coven Good Morning Saga & Short Critique"! Awesome!

I have a question. . . who is/was stand watie? He was before my time here on the Reb threads. From the way he is spoken of, he was just plain heroic. Know Master Cowboy now walks in his shoes, but just wondering and never had the opportunity to ask.
42 posted on 01/19/2011 7:53:49 AM PST by mstar (Immediate State Action)
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To: cowboyway; southernsunshine; central_va; Idabilly; mojitojoe; HIDEK6; BigReb555
there is another contingent that we Rebs refer to as The Coven (coined by stand watie).

Hey guys. . . after my 2nd cup of coffee following by a Diet Dr. Pepper, I sorta kinda can comprehend this thread.

Wow a "FR Reb/Coven Good Morning Saga & Short Critique"! Awesome!

I have a question. . . who is/was stand watie? He was before my time here on the Reb threads. From the way he is spoken of, he was just plain heroic. Know Master Cowboy now walks in his shoes, but just wondering and never had the opportunity to ask.
43 posted on 01/19/2011 7:53:58 AM PST by mstar (Immediate State Action)
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To: cowboyway

and it fooled so many of your confeder-buddies...

Oddly enough I borrowed the idea from stand waite.

Call it a sort of tribute to my victory over him like counting coup.


44 posted on 01/19/2011 7:56:30 AM PST by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!)
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To: All

sorry posted twice. . . might need another Dr. DP before I post


45 posted on 01/19/2011 7:56:45 AM PST by mstar (Immediate State Action)
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To: usmcobra; Admin Moderator
and it fooled so many of your confeder-buddies...

You must be soooo proud....

I only use one screen name and I have always admitted to being a “Troll™"---usmcobra

Admin moderator: Why do you let self admitted trolls and leftist agitators stay on FR? Just curious....

46 posted on 01/19/2011 8:31:09 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: mstar
who is/was stand watie?

The best way to understand who stand watie is/was is to search his screen name under 'users' and read a few of his replies to the coven.

47 posted on 01/19/2011 8:33:36 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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Wow! Looks like you trolls win again, sump_truck!


48 posted on 01/19/2011 9:26:30 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: cowboyway
Everyone is someones "troll" - even you pokie.
49 posted on 01/19/2011 9:28:33 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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He kept his personal slave, Rev. William Mack Lee throughout the war and when William was freed, he chose to stay with REL.

Actually the William Mack Lee story was pretty evidently a hoax concocted in 1918 between an old man who was cadging for money and a newspaper man who knew how a good story when he heard it and was unable or unwilling to actually investigate it.

The fact is that not a single trace of WIlliam Mack Lee can be found attached to Lee. He isn't mentioned in any of Lee's letters, nor is he mentioned by anyone else. Douglas Southall Freeman's 4-volume 1935 biography of Lee says that he had two servants during the war: Meredith, his cook, and Perry, his body servant. These he mentions frequently in letters back to his family. Of William Mack Lee, however, not a word. Reading his pamphlet, you come to this passage, which I think illustrates what was really going on:

Still limping from a yankee bullet, an old darkey, with a grizzled beard and an honest face, hobbled into the office of the World-News at a busy hour yesterday.

"Kin you white folks gimme a little money fur my church?" he asked, doffing his tattered as he bowed.

Typewriters tickled their hurried denial.

The aged negro cocked his head on one side. "What, I ain't gwine ter turn away Ole Marse Robert's n***** is yer? You didn't know dat I was Gen. Robert Lee's cook all through de wah, did yer?" Every reporter in the office considered that introduction sufficient, and listened for half an hour to William Mack Lee, who followed General Robert E. Lee as body guard and cook throughout the Civil War. When the negro lifted his bent and broken figure from a chair to take his leave every man in the office reached into his pocket, for a contribution.

I give him full credit for spinning a good story and knowing his audience, even if it was all BS.
50 posted on 01/19/2011 9:56:11 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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