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Netflix Is Abandoning DVDs, Customers Who Prefer DVDs
Yahoo Movies ^ | 01/18/2010 | Tim Grierson

Posted on 01/18/2011 6:20:18 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

When Netflix started up more than 10 years ago, its sales pitch was pretty simple: Hey, subscribe to us, and we'll mail you DVDs that you can then mail back to us without worrying about any late fees. But as the rental market moves toward online and on-demand models, Netflix's iconic red envelopes may eventually become as antiquated as VHS tapes. Beefing up their streaming business, Netflix has predicted that in about two years their economics will be geared more toward their "Watch Instantly" service than through physical discs. For that to happen, Netflix will have to nudge their DVD-loyal customers to the new platform. And on Monday, the company learned just how hard that may be.

In a seemingly innocent 109-word blog post, Netflix director of product management Jamie Odell announced, "We're removing the 'Add to DVD Queue' option from streaming devices," suggesting that it was being done so that the company "can concentrate on offering you the titles that are available to watch instantly." Granted, the Netflix website still allows DVD queue updating, but this post, dropped on the morning of Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, created an immediate firestorm of comments -- most of them very, very angry.

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Smart move by Netflix, and I'm not saying this sarcastically. People have laptops, tablets, and smartphones with 4G speeds now - why should Netflix keep sending them DVDs, especially when postal rates continue to climb? DVDs are obsolete now. I used to collect a bunch of them but a few years ago started reselling them back to those "Play it Again" stores. I have Netflix and it's much better to instantly watch on my computer than to wait for the DVD to come in the mail.
1 posted on 01/18/2011 6:20:19 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I like the “watch instantly”, it doesn’t work however if they don’t do all there movies under that category. Fortunately, I like the older movies they have under the WI.


2 posted on 01/18/2011 6:23:06 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I have a 1.5 MG connection (from which I’m lucky to get 1 MG) But I choose to live in the boondocks, if netflix chooses to not sell to me, so be it. We gave up TV years ago and couldn’t be happier with our decision.


3 posted on 01/18/2011 6:25:34 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I can see how this would work in more dense population centers just fine. However, If I live on the cold wind-swept plains of Montana, I’m not too likely to have high-speed internet at my disposal. Also, not all of their content is available online for streaming. How am I to watch that classic movie I want to watch if they only have it on dvd and I can’t even get it by streaming?


4 posted on 01/18/2011 6:26:53 PM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The way Obama’s running the country into the ground in two years they’ll more likely be shipping stone tablets to their customers on wagons.


5 posted on 01/18/2011 6:28:42 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I've been very impressed by Netflix. I forget the guy's name who runs/founded it, but the guy is a smart cookie. I wish I'd bought some Netflix stock before it got so expensive.

I have a roku player that I use for streaming netflix. I have it on right now. I still get dvds sometimes. Lately I've been working my way through the original star trek on dvd. But I prefer to stream. Once they have everything I want available, I won't use dvds anymore.

6 posted on 01/18/2011 6:30:55 PM PST by Huck (The GOP symbol should be the platypus; they speak in platitudes and they act like pussies.)
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To: stefanbatory
If I live on the cold wind-swept plains of Montana

Then you aren't much of a concern to Netflix. How many people are there in Montana? 700K? Not worth worrying about if you're netflix.

7 posted on 01/18/2011 6:32:33 PM PST by Huck (The GOP symbol should be the platypus; they speak in platitudes and they act like pussies.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don’t like it. I want to watch on my big-screen TV, and I don’t want to have to buy a playstation or nintendo (or some other piece of hardware) just to watch a movie. This was a great deal for us, as we only watch on weekends, and I don’t NEED instant watching.

Grumblegrumble.

Colonel, USAFR


8 posted on 01/18/2011 6:33:16 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Guess they will lose me as a customer...

I can just see having forty odd people over to watch a game/movie on my 17 inch screen!

I like it just as it is. I prefer the choice of DVD/Streaming.

Like with FReeRepublic, I like the old school way...

Just saying...

9 posted on 01/18/2011 6:33:18 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: gorush

My 1.5g xonnection works OK.
Sometimes I have to pause it and let it catch up.
The b/w movies I prefer (the ones with plots and characters)
play very well though.


10 posted on 01/18/2011 6:33:18 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Thank goodness!

Instant Watch needs to be beefed up with more newer titles!


11 posted on 01/18/2011 6:34:38 PM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Right, but a lot of the material I want to see on Netflix is only available via DVD.

Not sure why I can see episodes of "Family Guy" instantly but have to see "Entourage" only by DVD.

12 posted on 01/18/2011 6:38:26 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Don’t sell your Blockbuster stock just yet.


13 posted on 01/18/2011 6:39:27 PM PST by shortstop (Marco Rubio in 2010/Chris Christie in 2012.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Watch Instantly rules, DVD’s are yesterday’s news. Sometimes they don’t work anyway, they get scratched etc and its very frustrating when this happens right in the middle of a great movie.


14 posted on 01/18/2011 6:40:01 PM PST by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I’ve been thinning out some of the DVD collection via Amazon mostly. My wife is very big on Netflix. She is one of those loyal to the DVD format.

Matter of fact, I think I will throw in an episode of Matt Houston right about now. She got it for me as a Christmas gift.


15 posted on 01/18/2011 6:40:19 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Is there a way to store movies on a computer indefinitely? Brought my son a CD containing 10 000 books. Solved his need to run to the library to do a book report. Now we have Kindle, Nook and etc that one can build a personal library of books without the storage issues of hardcopies. Is there a version for movies where one buys the film and stores it digitally on the computer.


16 posted on 01/18/2011 6:41:01 PM PST by Fee
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To: jagusafr
Get a wifi blu ray player and you can stream Netflix to your TV for free.

If you try to use an Xbox, Microsoft will hit you up for an extra fee.

17 posted on 01/18/2011 6:42:36 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Rome2000

There’s a plan - thanks!


18 posted on 01/18/2011 6:45:12 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Fee

http://www.archive.org/details/movies
Lots of public domain you can download to your computer free: historical, educational and entertainment.


19 posted on 01/18/2011 6:47:06 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Netflix doesn't stream any content in 1080P, whereas a Blu-Ray disc provides that format.

The picture and sound quality is far superior to anything Netflix streams.

If they elect to discontinue offering Blu-Ray discs they will lose me as a customer.

Mass streaming in 1080P isn't going to happen for a long time.

20 posted on 01/18/2011 6:48:41 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

My parents have been subscribing to Netflix for over a year, getting discs in the mail every other day. They will NOT transition to streaming. Never. They are not terribly computer literate, to put it mildly, and I can absolutely 100% guarantee they will never go that route.


21 posted on 01/18/2011 6:52:14 PM PST by greene66
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To: jagusafr

I bought a Blu-Ray player for $80 right before Christmas. It has online access to Netflix and other movie rental or video-on-demand services. This was the main reason I got it as I don’t want a gaming system. I haven’t used the Netflix yet, though. I do enjoy getting the DVDs in the mail.


22 posted on 01/18/2011 6:52:50 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Thanks for posting this thread. Perdonally, I look forward to an all download model, as long as they start ramping up the amount of movies and shows they offer by download. the oferings of newer movies are sparsse, and even older fare, that they have some shows where episodes can only be gotten by DVD.

I’ve been watching MI-5, finished off the fourth season, only to find that “volume 55 (season 5) is omly availiable on DVD, but Vol 6 & 7 are availiablr for downlod...How does that make sense?

It’s like reading a good long novel, getting 2./3tds through, and finding a 100 pages have been ripped out, and the rest still left. Vol 4 left off with a great cliff hanger, and I don’t want to see the rest of the series out of order. (Chagrined I am!)


23 posted on 01/18/2011 6:53:10 PM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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To: mrsmith
Read anything and everything authored by Theodore Roosevelt, Lewis and Clarke, and Stanley and Livingstone

Columbus and Captain Cookes logs are available as well.

Pre civil war works by Europeans circa 1850 on life in America are insanely interesting too.

24 posted on 01/18/2011 6:54:28 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Huck
"I have a roku player that I use for streaming netflix."

Me too. My kids got me one for Christmas. I'm just finishing up the Sherlock Holmes series with Jeremy Brett, and I've been making my way through Have Gun, Will Travel.

25 posted on 01/18/2011 6:55:00 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: greene66

Yes they will if you buy them, and set up, ROKU, and show them how to use it. Then they will love streaming and hate DVD’s. It will only take a minimal effort on your part. Otherwise, you are right, they are not likely to go that route on their own.


26 posted on 01/18/2011 6:55:01 PM PST by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: greene66

Once an account os set up, it’s pretty easy to use. Netflix sesetss a cookie, so you just link to the sire, select a movie and press a play button.


27 posted on 01/18/2011 6:58:28 PM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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To: Fee

I prefer Amazon on Demand or ITunes, but a lot of movies are not yet available in this format.


28 posted on 01/18/2011 7:01:06 PM PST by KansasCanadian (The president of the United States actually has to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.)
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To: Rome2000

My reading has suffered horribly since I got Netflix and other non-commercial media.

I still smile remembering the laconic description in L & C’s journal of meeting their first grizzly bear.


29 posted on 01/18/2011 7:03:08 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: JDoutrider
Guess they will lose me as a customer... I can just see having forty odd people over to watch a game/movie on my 17 inch screen!

I like it just as it is. I prefer the choice of DVD/Streaming.

Like with FReeRepublic, I like the old school way...

I agree. I'm old school too. I still have a tube TV set. I want DVDs.

30 posted on 01/18/2011 7:04:04 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: hole_n_one
While Blu-Ray is the best physical media format for video, it is too late to the game. I expect DVDs, including Blu-Ray, to go the way of the 8-track within 5-7 years: only the avid collectors will have them and nothing new will be released on that format. Searching for a DVD will be akin to a current search for a VHS tape.

Red-box will follow Blockbuster's path into history if they don't jump into some non-physical media delivery method.

This isn't an issue for those, like me, with 10/25 mbps fiber connections to their homes. However, I'm aiming to move to a much more rural home within the next two years. I'll probably be one of those searching eBay for DVD movies then.

31 posted on 01/18/2011 7:04:10 PM PST by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Every time I passed the TV the estrogen-Americans in the house were watching “The Office”. I got curious and streamed the first season on my computer. Four days later I emerged from the study having streamed instantly all the episodes from 6 seasons. They will have me as a permanent customer if they provide more instant watch movies.


32 posted on 01/18/2011 7:04:12 PM PST by melissa_in_ga (Welcome 2011 with a renewed spirit!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I think it is stupid. I know lots of people who still don’t have computers or if they do rarely do much more than email and surf a few sites. They will never go this route.


33 posted on 01/18/2011 7:06:17 PM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Rome2000

MS doesn’t charge me anything extra to use my 360 to stream Netflix movies/TV shows.


34 posted on 01/18/2011 7:07:46 PM PST by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: DGHoodini

Then get the DVD’s then. I have noticed that most series leave off one or 2 episodes that are only available on the DVD’s


35 posted on 01/18/2011 7:07:54 PM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Moving around the movies is much more difficult on the Wii than on the DVDs, and most of their stuff isn’t available
by streaming, anyway. My DVD list is 3X as long as my streaming list. The picture is much lower quality, as well.


36 posted on 01/18/2011 7:09:45 PM PST by Politicalmom (America-The Land of the Sheep, the Home of the Caved.)
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To: hole_n_one

fully agree.

I am an HD snob. I can’t hardly watch the streaming in 480, when I can get a Blu-Ray that is 1080p.

I have Comcast cable internet, which clocks at 18Mbs, and I still only get a few streaming in what they call HD. Even that is still jumpy.

I’ll rent 1080 disks from someone until I can stream at 1080.


37 posted on 01/18/2011 7:17:05 PM PST by IL Republican
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To: greene66

My parents have been subscribing to Netflix for over a year, getting discs in the mail every other day. They will NOT transition to streaming. Never. They are not terribly computer literate, to put it mildly, and I can absolutely 100% guarantee they will never go that route.

*************************

I’m with them. I am rural and cannot stream squat without interruption and reloading. It’s DVD or no Netflix for us unless we change servers, which is a real pain, too.


38 posted on 01/18/2011 7:18:47 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: hole_n_one

>>Mass streaming in 1080P isn’t going to happen for a long time.

Worth saying again.


39 posted on 01/18/2011 7:18:47 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: mrsmith
Haven't got to that part yet, looking forward to it.

Read Roosevelt on how poisonous snakes interact that he authored during his South American expedition and the exploits of the Indonesian/Kenyan in the WH pale in comparison.

40 posted on 01/18/2011 7:19:22 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: DesertSapper
They say I need a Gold membership to stream?

Haven't cut me off yet though.

41 posted on 01/18/2011 7:23:31 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: IL Republican
Seeing as how Netflix does differentiate between the terms DVD and Blu-Ray, and the article never uses the term Blu-Ray, it is possible that Blu-Ray discs would still be available for mail delivery while standard DVD content would be only offered via live stream.

That I could live with.

42 posted on 01/18/2011 7:27:44 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I bought two new LG DVD players in December that have Netflix Streaming capability — similar to Wii......... now all I have to do is figure out how to hook them up on my office and bedroom big screen TVs... if my husband was still alive it would have been done the first day they came into the house ~LOL~....now I am trying to decide before I pay someone to come hook them up if I need to upgrade my Linksys to a newer wireless device before I do anything.......


43 posted on 01/18/2011 7:28:44 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: jagusafr

The “new” state of the art big screen TV’s have netflix built in.


44 posted on 01/18/2011 7:31:25 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Rome2000

How did you hook it up? I purchased two Netflix capable Blue Ray players and have no clue what to do so they are still in the box.


45 posted on 01/18/2011 7:34:43 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"I have Netflix and it's much better to instantly watch on my computer than to wait for the DVD to come in the mail. "

I believe that only about 10% of the Netflix inventory is available for streaming.

46 posted on 01/18/2011 7:37:58 PM PST by Neanderthal
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I have a relative in care home and Netflix is how they get a variety of movies for the residents to watch. Unfortunately they are not wired in to do this through cable or internet. I guess I will need to look for used DVD’s to buy for them.


47 posted on 01/18/2011 7:40:21 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: DesertSapper

“I expect DVDs, including Blu-Ray, to go the way of the 8-track within 5-7 years”

I’m kind of mixed on this opinion. Part of me thinks there will be physical media in the future, but I really can’t deny that the industry is shifting to a “download only” method of distribution. There will be higher resolutions, uncompressed audio tracks, 3D video, etc. Even with higher bandwidth in the future, it’d still take significant time for your average user to complete 40 or 80GB downloads.

Games are another form of entertainment that would require some fat pipes to download rather quickly. I recently waited a little over 2 hours for a demo of that new DC Online universe (16GB download) ... I have a 20Mbps connection. If it were something I could buy at a local Gamestop on disc, I would have ran there (not like I would buy that particular title ... it was impressive, but not my type of game).

It’ll be interesting to see how all of this unfolds :-)!


48 posted on 01/18/2011 7:40:26 PM PST by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: packrat35

And I’m sayin, that if Netflix wants to go “all download”, that’s not good enough.


49 posted on 01/18/2011 7:41:11 PM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I abandoned Netflix.

You can get more online for free than you can from Netflix.

http://tv.blinkx.com

And don't give megauploads any money either.

There are usually dozens of links for any given show. When one maxes out, try another.

50 posted on 01/18/2011 7:41:30 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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