‘Beijing Jim’ Hansen: Sea Level Rise of Many Metres This Century “Almost Dead Certain”

Hauntingthelibrary ^ | January 22, 2011

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

You gotta hand it to the guy, despite almost every single one of his prognostications turning out to be wrong, he doesn’t bat an eyelid but just right on going. And they keep letting him.

The latest escapade from Beijing Jim involves  a paper he’s writing which says it’s “almost dead certain” that the sea will rise by a multiple number of metres this century. As Treehugger reports:

“[Business as usual] scenarios result in global warming on the order of 3-6°C. It is this scenario for which we assert that multi-meter sea level rise on the century time scale are not only possible, but almost dead certain.”

Treehugger. Multi-Meter Sea Level Rise by 2100 Certain with Business As Usual Emissions: James Hansen.

Apparently, Beijing Jim reckons that something called “albedo flip” will speed the process of melting all the ice in the word (including the 90% of the world’s ice in Antarctica, currently chilling at around -40 degrees celcius). For more, you can read the draft paper here.

What’s so touching about the way Treehugger reports this latest paper is the level of doe-eyed trust they seem to still have in him:

James Hansen may be as much as a celebrity as one can be in the world of climate change science, so when he and colleague Makiko Sato say that we’re in for multi-meter sea level rise by 2100 you have to pay attention, even when that prediction falls well outside the range predicted by many other climate scientists

Isn’t that nice? His predictions for temperature rises with “business as usual scenarios” from 1988 that kicked this whole thing off were miles out, yet still they believe in him, despite what those horrid sceptics say with their insistence on, y’know, verifiable evidence and empirical science rather than a simulation on a computer.

[hinckley buzzard]

Amazing agglomeration of stuff. Too bad virtually all the sources have been discredited and compromised. If they were by some chance telling the truth no one would know because there is no way of separating the signal from the noise.

[TigersEye]

‘Beijing Jim’ Hansen: Sea Level Rise of Many Metres This Century “Almost Dead Certain”

That is 100% Grade A government approved, NASA inspected, taxpayer funded BULL PUCKEY!

Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud - Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner

Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner is the head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics department at Stockholm University in Sweden. He is past president (1999-2003) of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution, and leader of the Maldives Sea Level Project. Dr. Mörner has been studying the sea level and its effects on coastal areas for some 35 years.

EIR: What is the real state of the sea-level rising? Mörner: You have to look at that in a lot of different ways. That is what I have done in a lot of different papers, so we can confine ourselves to the short story here. One way is to look at the global picture, to try to find the essence of what is going on. And then we can see that the sea level was indeed rising, from, let us say, 1850 to 1930-40. And that rise had a rate in the order of 1 millimeter per year. Not more. 1.1 is the exact figure. And we can check that, because Holland is a subsiding area; it has been subsiding for many millions of years; and Sweden, after the last Ice Age, was uplifted. So if you balance those, there is only one solution, and it will be this figure.

Don't you just love paying to have your government lie through its teeth to you? Lying so it can take more money from you.

[bigheadfred]

It’s the tipping point where you go from “Almost Dead Certain” to “Almost Dead Wrong”

Kinda like when a duck’s built in flotation system fails and he sinks like a stone.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Ernest.

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[aruanan]

‘Beijing Jim’ Hansen: Sea Level Rise of Many Metres This Century “Almost Dead Certain”

The most certain thing of the above is that this century Jim Hansen will be dead.

[muawiyah]

Hansen, et al, will tell you in all seriousness that what it does in North America is of no particular consequence when you look at the globe as a whole, and out there, beyond North America it's WARMER.

Which is, of course, all nonsense. It's the build up of year round ice and snow in the broad reaches of North America (mostly Canada) that really counts and which ultimately controls global climate.

In fact, it's the North American ice sheet that's always the big dog when it comes to a colder climate. Asia ends up with a smaller total glaciated area as well as a smaller total amount of ice as compared to North America.

South Asia (the Himalayas) become more glaciated but never become non-glaciated and may be considered a third permanent ice cap along with Greenland and Antarctica.

This last August an interesting South Pacific/South Atlantic, Mid-Pacific/Mid-Atlantic batch of winds blew toward South America, Middle America and North America and created a Northern Flow from literally Tierra Del Fuego to Baffin island. A tremendous amount of moisture was sucked into the flow ~ and fortunately was blown East across the North Atlantic before it could be turned into snow and ice in the Arctic.

That particular phenomenon doesn't usually happen but it was pretty obvious from satellite shots that if this continued for a month or two we could have a tremendous ice build up in North America ~ IN ONE SEASON. That's not like a thousand years, or a century, or a decade ~ that's like ONE SEASON.

It would change Earth's climate like flicking a switch.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

THis man makes the “Mad Hatter” seem very sane.

[politicianslie]

I saw an article the other day that said sea levels were going down. Hansen is nothing but another brain dead liberal with agenda who has a phd, piled higher and deeper crap sign by his name.

This morning I heard another brain dead liberal say the average temperature is going up even though the snow just melted from the second snowstorm of the season.

The reason the liberals are lining up to support this is not just to win an arguement. The EPA is enforcing greenhouse gas pollution reduction. What does that mean? The idiots at the utility I work for are saying that they are spending $750 million for CO2 pollution! Then they are building 2 more nuclear plants that the state can't afford and the rate payers can't afford the rates now.

A neighboring utility charges $93 per 1000 kw-hrs (has large Nuclear plants up and running), but this smaller utility that heavily uses coal and only has one NUC has rates at $123 per 1000 KW-Hrs. The President of the company says rates are soon going to $150 per 1000 MW-Hrs, all for getting off coal because the communist moron in the White House says utilities can burn coal but they will go broke doing it.

As your electric rates go through the roof, you will be laughing at the global warming arguments. The money stolen from you will be used to enslave you and your family.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks for the addition.

[TheBattman]

Read an academic journal article some time back that addressed this - apparently, because all that sea ice FLOATS, it already displaces the majority of it’s volume. Even if all the ice from the ice caps melted - it would not cause the sea levels to rise “meters” - not even close.

[Marine_Uncle]

When the sunlight reflected by white ice is suddenly absorbed as ice melts to become the dark surface of open water.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

That says the Sun has a very large impact on heating the earth....without CO2 necessary.

And since nearly all of the United States has snow cover...it isn't starting for awhile.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Good idea,...needs to happen soon.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks,...I had not see the sequel to the original...

[Marine_Uncle]

And as you are aware, that is why we shall continue to see colder then average surface temperatures across much of the United States for some time. If we continue to get snow falls across the swaths of land we have already witnessed, it cannot help but stay cold. Plus as large masses of clouds move into these areas of cold air, we experience even more potential precipitation in the form of snow. Since the colder the cloud formations are the less able to contain the same amount of water as when warmer. Less radiant IR being reflected back into the troposphere less heating of the cloud formations.
Then we can move on to the low intensity sun output and expect less total energy from entering the lower air masses, due to the high volume of cloud coverage.
Bingo. Temperatures stay un-seasonably cold.
Today I went out to heat the car up and scrap away the thick crust of snow/ice that formed on my car. Been so called of lately after two days of sun shining on and off during the daylight, the stuff did not melt off.
Getting ready for more snow on Wednesday. I look out my front bay window and see a almost total white field. But the street surfaces and sidewalks are now mostly cleared of snow. I can see blacktop. Yeah.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Just posted this ...counters Hansen...

Will global warming survive a strong La Nina?

[Matchett-PI]

bttt

ClimateGate: UVA’Getting its Nixon On’
Big Government ^ by Christopher C. Horner
http://biggovernment.com/chorner/2011/01/18/climategate-uvagetting-its-nixon-on/

[Marine_Uncle]

Read it and responded. Thanks E.

[Marine_Uncle]

PS. I am going to force myself into soon more closely examining just where the CCX (Chicago Carbon Exchange) is heading. The web site of theirs I sent you brings up some questions I want to find answers to. With more industrial and other type corps,companies dropping out of trading carbon credits,whatever, at this exchange, it seems like it might be turning more into just a place where hedge fund investors and the like trade. Shovel money around at their convenience to make a few bucks on short trades etc.. In which case it just might fully collapse. If I get anywhere on this quest I’ll let you know.

[Sicon]

Hansen is about 70 yr. old. I'd say he'd be safe in making predictions for things beyond about 2050. That way no one can prove him wrong while he is alive.

2050?! I think 2030 would be far enough. I doubt he's going to live to 110, unless making b.s. pseudo-scientific predictions that are little better than the progostications of a carnival psychic with a crystal ball somehow grants exceptional longevity.

I predict that he's worm food by 2025, at the very latest.