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Dogs in a Deadly Crossfire
The Daily Beast ^ | July 17, 2009 | Radley Balko

Posted on 01/23/2011 7:41:15 PM PST by Immerito

Confronted by the family pet, police often shoot first and ask questions later, reports Radley Balko. Among hundreds of recent victims: Labradors, Wheaten terriers, and a five-pound Chihuahua.

Beginning next year, police departments in Maryland will be required to report to the governor's office every time they kill a dog during a drug raid. That requirement is part of a new law pushed by Cheye Calvo, the mayor of the small town of Berwyn Heights.

Calvo proposed the legislation because police officers conducted a particularly violent raid last summer on his home in Prince George's County after intercepting a package of marijuana at a delivery-service warehouse. The cops then completed the delivery themselves to the address on the package. As it turns out, the house belonged Calvo, who had no connection to the drugs. The package was part of a botched distribution scheme in which an accomplice working for the delivery service was supposed to have intercepted it before it was delivered.

“You’re kicking down doors, barging in with guns, and when animals do what animals do, they become collateral damage.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: copskillingdogs; donutwatch; maryland; warondogs
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1 posted on 01/23/2011 7:41:18 PM PST by Immerito
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To: Immerito

America has become a fascist country. Cops come in dressed in black, at 2AM, with no-knock raids, kill your pets, and if you dare defend against the masked intruders, they kill yoo, too.


2 posted on 01/23/2011 7:45:31 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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Action User Date/Time
Append keyword "donutwatch"
Immerito
01/23/2011 7:41:17 PM PST
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Immerito
01/23/2011 7:41:16 PM PST

Knock it off with the keyword abuse....

3 posted on 01/23/2011 7:46:21 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Immerito

America has become a fascist country. Cops come in dressed in black, at 2AM, with no-knock raids, kill your pets, and if you dare defend against the masked intruders, they kill you, too.


4 posted on 01/23/2011 7:46:45 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s called The Thin Blue Lie.


5 posted on 01/23/2011 7:48:45 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
It's sick. I have a female friend from Germany, who, upon coming to 'The Land of Freedom', remarks that we rather resemble wartime Germany in the 1940's now.

She's returning home, where she says she's actually free.

6 posted on 01/23/2011 7:51:59 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Immerito

I can understand dogs wanting to defend their home. It is their basic nature and a good thing not a bad thing for the most part.

Cops should not do those kind of raids except in situations where lives are in imminent danger. Also they could try pepper spray first. I have used it on a doberman and it worked great.


7 posted on 01/23/2011 7:54:25 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Lurker

I am just “guessing” that many homeowners would not hesitate to shoot anyone bursting into their homes and drawing guns.


8 posted on 01/23/2011 7:56:35 PM PST by MtnClimber (Osama and Obama both hate freedom and have friends that bombed the Pentagon)
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To: Lazamataz

Germans always say that anyway ~ needs no provocation.


9 posted on 01/23/2011 7:58:11 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: MtnClimber
Rightfully so. America is badly damaged, much changed from when I was growing up.

Back then, the police were into POLICING.

Now, we pretty much have a standing occupation army.

10 posted on 01/23/2011 7:58:23 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Immerito

“You’re kicking down doors, barging in with guns, and when animals do what animals do, they become collateral damage.”

Oh I am so worried about the animals... Sarcasm...

These violent “no knock” warrents make a mockery of search and seizure protections. I mean when the government ignores the sanctity of private property, well, that’s what the Second Amendment is for. However, if you stand up to one of these illegal police actions you will die, or be in jail for life, or get the death sentence.

The other option is to defund city hall. Good luck with that. Even here on Free Republic the freedom loving average Joe sits in slack jawed awe of the Police. They need to be de funded. Get rid of District Attorneys. Dismantle the whole dam mess. Or, just keep trucking along like we are. Do “you people” really think that things will get better?


11 posted on 01/23/2011 7:59:01 PM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: muawiyah

Problem is, she’s right. I cannot defend the changes I have seen, in my lifetime, to this country of mine.


12 posted on 01/23/2011 7:59:28 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Immerito

From the article: “This sad trend appears to be a side effect of the new SWAT, paramilitary focus in many police departments, which has supplanted the idea of being an “officer of the peace.”


This is exactly what has happened to our police forces across the country. The HHS has expanded the war on Islamic terror to a war on the American people. We are all deemed suspected domestic “terrorists.”

The angrier people get from being abused in daily life (ie, at the airport or or other law enforcement contact) or having a friend or family member abused or seeing it in the news, the more respect Americans lose for the government and especially law enforcement.

That means they cooperate less less because they lose trust. We are headed for banana republic territory. This is actually making it MORE dangerous for police officers. They are making themselves an occupying force in our country. Check out Mexico!

We need to limit HHS to Islamic Terrorism only under the patriot act and we need to make politicans very sorry for calling Americans who are not Islamic terrorists - terrorists.


13 posted on 01/23/2011 8:00:59 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Lazamataz

Yep.


14 posted on 01/23/2011 8:01:39 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Jubtabulously We Thrive!)
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To: DariusBane
These violent “no knock” warrents make a mockery of search and seizure protections.

You know, I have heard the police defend No Knock because suspects would flush drugs. Right?

Simple solution: Have the city turn off water to the house, or the entire street even. They could flush exactly one easily-retrievable load.

No Knock is unnecessary.

15 posted on 01/23/2011 8:01:41 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s good, in my view, that we have some gathered data on the subject. Perhaps thanks to the efforts of Mr. Balko and others willing to shed light on the subject, we can increase public awareness of the problem and change our current course.


16 posted on 01/23/2011 8:03:33 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Lazamataz

How about instead of turning off the water we end the practice of career prosecutors who’s careers live and die and arrest and conviction rates.

I am more concerned in today’s world with restoring the balance of power between the State and the People than I am in putting people in Jail.


17 posted on 01/23/2011 8:05:42 PM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Lazamataz

Fine.

Then we’ll -all- go down together.


18 posted on 01/23/2011 8:05:58 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Lazamataz

I knew an old school cop who said that he could defuse 90% of bad situations by a bit of patience and politeness.

He made 30 years without having to shoot or compromise his duty.


19 posted on 01/23/2011 8:06:20 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Jubtabulously We Thrive!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

“I knew an old school cop who said that he could defuse 90% of bad situations by a bit of patience and politeness.”

We need more old school cops.


20 posted on 01/23/2011 8:08:08 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Lazamataz
Simple solution: Have the city turn off water to the house, or the entire street even. They could flush exactly one easily-retrievable load.

How *dare* you sir, question the we've-always-done-it-this-way rationale of the PTB.

Expect a visit. And if you know what's good for him, have your dog at a kennel.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

21 posted on 01/23/2011 8:08:40 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: Immerito

From the article: “This sad trend appears to be a side effect of the new SWAT, paramilitary focus in many police departments, which has supplanted the idea of being an “officer of the peace.”


This is exactly what has happened to our police forces across the country. The HHS has expanded the war on Islamic terror to a war on the American people. We are all deemed suspected domestic “terrorists.”

The angrier people get from being abused in daily life (ie, at the airport or or other law enforcement contact) or having a friend or family member abused or seeing it in the news, the more respect Americans lose for the government and especially law enforcement.

That means they cooperate less less because they lose trust. We are headed for banana republic territory. This is actually making it MORE dangerous for police officers. They are making themselves an occupying force in our country. Check out Mexico!

We need to limit HHS to Islamic Terrorism only under the patriot act and we need to make politicans very sorry for calling Americans who are not Islamic terrorists - terrorists.


22 posted on 01/23/2011 8:10:47 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: yarddog

“where lives are in imminent danger.”

You mean, when a 10 pound poodle barks at them?


23 posted on 01/23/2011 8:12:28 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Immerito

If you shoot a police K9, aren’t you charged with assaulting a police officer?


24 posted on 01/23/2011 8:17:32 PM PST by Boiling point (Beck / Palin 2012)
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To: Immerito
We need more old school cops.

They're not making them anymore. The new ones are all tactical tommies who think they're living in a youtube video. The guy of which I speak was a forward artillery observer in Vietnam... he knew what was maximal badness and what was just a "problem".

I worked corrections, and early on learned that you could either fight all the time or call a con "Sir" when you needed compliance and get it done.

25 posted on 01/23/2011 8:17:32 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Jubtabulously We Thrive!)
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To: MtnClimber

MD now has a “Castle defense doctrine”.

If, at 2 am, guys dressed in black who may or may not “claim” to be LEO break into my house, are they exempt from that law?

Our area has had its share of police impersonators kidnapping and raping lone women and I won’t pull over for a cop on a deserted highway.

I’d do what our law allegedly allows us to do; put on my flashers and drive to a well-lit, heavily populated place with lots of witnesses first.

Sitting at home, I don’t have that option and since I am involved in utterly NO criminal activity and therefore have no reason to expect cops in the dead of night, would I have the right to assume that black-clad people breaking and entering were an imminent threat to my safety?

The “plain cars” they use now have absolutely NO external ID and discrete internal lights that can be easily “faked”, if someone really wanted to.

One plain clothes cop we met while watching a bust go down was driving a shabby old Toyota and looked like a street bum.

Good disguise but possibly not a terribly wise one, considering he could ~easily~ be mistaken for a no-LEO criminal bent on mayhem.


26 posted on 01/23/2011 8:18:41 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Immerito

I grew up in a town of 5,200 and we had a police chief and two assistants. I think there were a couple of part time ones too.

I no longer live there but am close enough that I visit maybe once a month. I see several cops every time. I mean there must be 50 cops on the force. The sad thing is most people want it that way.

The city still has the same population btw.


29 posted on 01/23/2011 8:20:45 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Boiling point

Yes and one that also carries a higher “rank” than its own handler.


30 posted on 01/23/2011 8:22:04 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Immerito
This is the price we are paying for the madness of the Drug War. I agree with an earlier post which said that the cops should never break down doors in the middle of the night and come in ready to shoot unless lives are in eminent danger. This madness needs to stop.
31 posted on 01/23/2011 8:22:08 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Salamander
Our area has had its share of police impersonators kidnapping and raping lone women and I won’t pull over for a cop on a deserted highway.

My understanding is that a lot of home invasion robberies also go down like that, with the perps claiming to be the police in order to catch the occupants off guard.

32 posted on 01/23/2011 8:24:08 PM PST by Cu Roi
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To: Immerito

Why do cops shoot dogs?

BECAUSE THEY CAN!

It’s a favorite way of demonstrating to the peons who has the badge/gun and who doesn’t.


33 posted on 01/23/2011 8:28:56 PM PST by Ronin ("Dismantle the TSA and send the screeners back to Wal-Mart.")
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To: Immerito

One thing which has become totally prevalent is the cops handcuff everyone in the vicinity. They shackle everyone because it is “for my own protection”.

Cops are now trained to brutalize everyone rather than take any chances at all.

I remember Jeff Cooper mentioned in one of his columns that it was illegal in ancient Rome to shackle a citizen for any reason at all. Even in situations where they could kill you, they couldn’t shackle you if you were a citizen.

After reading that, I remembered the Apostle Paul was shackled by one of the Roman Governors and after he learned Paul was a citizen he became afraid because he had ordered a citizen to be chained.


34 posted on 01/23/2011 8:28:58 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Tijeras_Slim

The county sheriffs here are all local good ol’ boys.

They grew up in the mountains and never freak out over a barking yard dog.

The other LEO branches, not so much.

The “city cops” in the “big” town near here would just as soon shoot you as look at you.

The state troopers fall somewhere in between...really decent, local mellow guys and jacked-up out of town Rambos.

Even the DNR and park police carry guns now and are apparently paranoid as hell.


35 posted on 01/23/2011 8:28:58 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Cu Roi

Yup, had some of those, too....for a short while.

Hillbillies only pretend to be stupid...:)

[LOVE your user name, BTW]


36 posted on 01/23/2011 8:31:16 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Boiling point

My understanding (I am not a lawyer nor am I employed or educated in the legal field) is that in some states, if you kill a police officer’s dog, you can be charged with murder of a police officer.

(Some relevant reading here: http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1553192/ )


37 posted on 01/23/2011 8:34:04 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Salamander
Men yell "Police!" as they force their way into Ypsilanti Township apartment, deputies say
38 posted on 01/23/2011 8:37:42 PM PST by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: Immerito

I believe that’s the law, here.

[and of all things I might go berserk and do, killing one of the most noble beasts on earth is *not* one of them]


39 posted on 01/23/2011 8:39:49 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Salamander

Yeah I imagine that would be a pretty short-lived fad in Garrett or Allegheny Counties.


40 posted on 01/23/2011 8:42:49 PM PST by Cu Roi
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To: Palter

And that’s why I have steel dead-bolt doors with peepholes.

Ain’t buyin’ nobody’s ‘word’ that they’re “cops” ‘til I see a lane full of of flashing lights on marked cruisers, uniforms and official badges.

Nope.


41 posted on 01/23/2011 8:42:58 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Cu Roi

It sure was in western Washington county.

:)


42 posted on 01/23/2011 8:44:14 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Lazamataz

Read my tagline. says it all.


43 posted on 01/23/2011 8:50:02 PM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: DariusBane

True, and many here will cry when budgets force the cities to start laying off cops.

I say good riddance. We have way too many doing nothing but hassling the regular citizens and killing their dogs.


44 posted on 01/23/2011 8:52:37 PM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Lazamataz

“Back then, the police were into POLICING.”

Back then, people on police forces knew who Robert Peel was and endeavored to police in accordance with his principles.


45 posted on 01/23/2011 8:54:11 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito
No dog available to shoot; cop shoots suspect's father instead.
46 posted on 01/23/2011 8:58:28 PM PST by Daffynition ( Live EACH DAY as if it were your last, but EXPECT that there still may be a tomorrow.)
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To: Lurker

And it should be protecting us, not attacking us.


47 posted on 01/23/2011 9:01:56 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Daffynition

People think I am being funny when I say I have 3 dogs for this purpose. Its their job to take one for the team so my wife or relatives don’t get it.


48 posted on 01/23/2011 9:04:18 PM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: yarddog

Yep, I have been saying for some time that a good way to reduce the expenses for cities is to layoff 25% of the police. We have way too many cops abusing way too many citizens.


49 posted on 01/23/2011 9:07:06 PM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: packrat35
Or you could be father/son cop duo in South Windsor, CT trying to use the system to hide the fact you killed a 15 y/o kid.
50 posted on 01/23/2011 9:14:29 PM PST by Daffynition ( Live EACH DAY as if it were your last, but EXPECT that there still may be a tomorrow.)
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