Brock pleads guilty (Woman and daughter both have sex with underage male-Phoenix)

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[reaganaut]

She will be sentenced to between seven and 15 years in prison for one of the three counts.

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And she will be excommunicated and not be able to be re-baptized Mormon until her civil rights are restored (per the LDS ‘Handbook of Instructions’).

[caww]

Can’t imagine the fathers state of mind at this point. He should be enraged...but then I suspect the Mormon folk will “calmn” such an emotional outburst and blame him for not overseeing his family “properly”.

[Elsie]

None of the acts involved intercourse.

The mental images run wild!

[Elsie]

Amen!

...but for the Grace of GOD...

Lord; have mercy on ME!

[Elsie]

There are far better indicators of the sickness, like the huge illegitimacy rates.

Nah...

...like SUBSIDIZING huge illegitimacy rates.

[Elsie]

And if the mother had been pretty the FR community of idiots would chime in, “Not guilty!”

And the others who slobber: "I'd hit it!"

[Elsie]

WHICH ‘father’?

[bvw]

Right ... like ENCOURAGING teenage single motherhood among the poorest, DISCOURAGING and MOCKING marriage, and INCARCERATING most urban black daddies.

[Arrowhead1952]

None of the acts involved intercourse.

The mental images run wild!

Hey, X-42 did it in the WH, and we had to find out what is is.

[greyfoxx39]

UPDATE:

Susan Brock Sentenced To 13 years In Sex Case

kpho TV

Prosecutor Claims Fulton Brock Knew Of Wife's Relationship With Teen Boy

UPDATED: 3:38 pm MST April 7, 2011

PHOENIX -- Judge Robert Olson sentenced Susan Brock to the aggravated term of 13 years in prison and lifetime probation with sex offender terms.

Susan has admitted to having sexual contact with a 14-year-old boy.

Much of the focus in Thursday's hearing was on her husband, County Supervisor Fulton Brock.

• VIDEO: New Details In Susan Brock Case

Before the hearing began Thursday, Fulton Brock's attorney, David Cantor, addressed the court, indicating the prosecution was going to share questionable content against his client and that it should not be allowed because Brock was not charged with anything in his wife's case.

In court Thursday, prosecutor Jason Holmberg alleged that Fulton not only knew about his wife's sexual encounters with the teenage victim, but also tried to hide evidence and then tried to help get his wife's charges reduced.

Holmberg alleged that when the search warrant was served at the Brock home, Fulton threatened to call the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office and denied knowing where his wife's phone was, only to hand over the cellphone and Susan's credit cards 45 minutes later.

Phone calls between Fulton and Susan that were recorded after her arrest were presented as evidence in court. In one of the calls, Fulton indicated the victim had cash and a ring. That's when Susan told her husband to stop talking because it was being recorded. Holmberg alleged that the two tried to claim the victim was extorting them.

Holmberg also alleged that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints' leaders met with both Susan and Fulton before Susan was arrested to discuss the situation, and they determined Susan would undergo sex therapy.

Chandler police detectives claim she had numerous sexual encounters with a with the boy.

Holmberg has called Susan a master of manipulation, who befriended her best friend's son for the sole purpose of satisfying her sexual and emotional needs.

[svcw]

Good grief.
How old was the daughter when this started?
Did the mom encourage this?
What is wrong with people?
How do lds handle this stupidity?

[Elsie]

How do lds handle this stupidity?

The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints is perfect:

the people who are MORMONs, aren't.

--MormonDude(Well; there is COUNSELING; of course.)

[Elsie]

How do lds handle this stupidity?

Well; we KNOW that MEN are a problem no matter WHAT they believe; but this WOMEN thing is new to us: we'll have to wait on GOD to reveal something to our Living Prophet®.

[Elsie]

How do lds handle this stupidity?

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What is your church doing to help the male to stay true?

 

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"All of this should be conveyed without having priesthood leaders focus upon intimate matters which are a part of husband and wife relationships. Skillful interviewing and counseling can occur without discussion of clinical details by placing firm responsibility on individual members of the Church to put their lives in order before exercising the privilege of entering a house of the Lord. The First Presidency has interpreted oral sex as constituting an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice. If a person is engaged in a practice which troubles him enough to ask about it, he should discontinue it."
- Official Declaration of the First Presidency of the Church, January 5th, 1982

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"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life. Our modern prophet has indicated that no young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice. What is more, it too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation-practiced with another person of the same sex and thence into total homosexuality...."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Pages 77-79, 81-82

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"Among the most common sexual sins our young people commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, [unwed] pregnancy, and abortions - all ugly sins - but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. They awaken lust and stir evil thoughts and sex desires. They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. Almost like twins, 'petting' and fornication are alike."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 65

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"Also far-reaching is the effect of the loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 196

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"And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Genesis 4:9-14.) That was true of murder. It is also true of illicit sex, which, of course, includes all petting, fornication, adultery, homosexual acts, and all other perversions. The Lord may say to offenders, as He did to Cain, "What hast thou done?" The children thus conceived make damning charges against you; the companions who have been frustrated and violated condemn you; the body that has been defiled cries out against you; the spirit which has been dwarfed convicts you. You will have difficulty throughout the ages in totally forgiving yourself."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965. Often-used quote still used today in LDS seminary classes.

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"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965

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"If adultery or fornication justified the death penalty in the old days, and still in Christ's day, is the sin any less today because the laws of the land do not assess the death penalty for it? Is the act less grievous? There must be a washing, a purging, a changing of attitudes, a correcting of appraisals, a strengthening toward self-mastery. There must be many prayers, and volumes of tears. There must be an inner conviction giving to the sin its full diabolical weight. There must be increased devotion and much thought and study. And this takes energy and time and often is accompanied with sore embarrassment, heavy deprivations and deep trials, even if indeed one is not excommunicated from the Church, losing all spiritual blessings."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Page 155

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"How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Little indiscretions are the berries -- indiscretions like sex thoughts sex discussions, passionate kissing, pornography. The leaves and little twigs are masturbation and necking and such, growing with every exercise. The full-grown plant is petting and sex looseness. It confounds, frustrates, and destroys like the parasite if it is not cut out and destroyed, for, in time it robs the tree, bleeds its life, and leaves it barren and dry; and, strangely enough, the parasite dies with its host."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967.

[Elsie]

How do lds handle this stupidity?

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What is your church doing to help the male to stay true?

 

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"All of this should be conveyed without having priesthood leaders focus upon intimate matters which are a part of husband and wife relationships. Skillful interviewing and counseling can occur without discussion of clinical details by placing firm responsibility on individual members of the Church to put their lives in order before exercising the privilege of entering a house of the Lord. The First Presidency has interpreted oral sex as constituting an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice. If a person is engaged in a practice which troubles him enough to ask about it, he should discontinue it."
- Official Declaration of the First Presidency of the Church, January 5th, 1982

---

"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life. Our modern prophet has indicated that no young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice. What is more, it too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation-practiced with another person of the same sex and thence into total homosexuality...."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Pages 77-79, 81-82

---

"Among the most common sexual sins our young people commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, [unwed] pregnancy, and abortions - all ugly sins - but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. They awaken lust and stir evil thoughts and sex desires. They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. Almost like twins, 'petting' and fornication are alike."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 65

---

"Also far-reaching is the effect of the loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 196

---

"And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Genesis 4:9-14.) That was true of murder. It is also true of illicit sex, which, of course, includes all petting, fornication, adultery, homosexual acts, and all other perversions. The Lord may say to offenders, as He did to Cain, "What hast thou done?" The children thus conceived make damning charges against you; the companions who have been frustrated and violated condemn you; the body that has been defiled cries out against you; the spirit which has been dwarfed convicts you. You will have difficulty throughout the ages in totally forgiving yourself."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965. Often-used quote still used today in LDS seminary classes.

---

"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965

---

"If adultery or fornication justified the death penalty in the old days, and still in Christ's day, is the sin any less today because the laws of the land do not assess the death penalty for it? Is the act less grievous? There must be a washing, a purging, a changing of attitudes, a correcting of appraisals, a strengthening toward self-mastery. There must be many prayers, and volumes of tears. There must be an inner conviction giving to the sin its full diabolical weight. There must be increased devotion and much thought and study. And this takes energy and time and often is accompanied with sore embarrassment, heavy deprivations and deep trials, even if indeed one is not excommunicated from the Church, losing all spiritual blessings."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Page 155

---

"How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Little indiscretions are the berries -- indiscretions like sex thoughts sex discussions, passionate kissing, pornography. The leaves and little twigs are masturbation and necking and such, growing with every exercise. The full-grown plant is petting and sex looseness. It confounds, frustrates, and destroys like the parasite if it is not cut out and destroyed, for, in time it robs the tree, bleeds its life, and leaves it barren and dry; and, strangely enough, the parasite dies with its host."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967.

[svcw]

These passages are moronic. Seriously who are they kidding but themselves.

[Elsie]

bttt

[Tennessee Nana]

Arent these women both Mormons ???