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Humans 'left Africa much earlier'
BBC ^ | January 27, 2011 | Paul Rincon

Posted on 01/27/2011 4:03:33 PM PST by decimon

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To: aruanan
What is the mechanism that causes it to “shift lighter or darker” in 1000 years if not changes in DNA?

Are there another molecule that get passed on hereditary that only you know about?

41 posted on 01/27/2011 5:27:07 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
, stop the histrionics.
42 posted on 01/27/2011 5:30:26 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

“Oppenheimer when asked if his was the first ever detonation of of a nuclear bomb, he said. ‘Yes, in modern times’.”

As in India?


43 posted on 01/27/2011 5:31:49 PM PST by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: ReverendJames
You need to look at that chart again.

A Sicilian has less genetic distance between himself and a Japanese person than either has with a Thai person.

You want to lump Japanese people and Thai together, but that is not based upon any objective standard, but upon superficial similarities.

If you want to go 3 races they would be...

1) New Guinean/Australian
2) Asian/Caucasian
3) African

If you want to go further down the chart you can also get 5, and they would be....

1) New Guinean/Australian
2) African
3) Indians/Middle Eastern/European/etc
4) Korean/Japanese/Siberian/American-Indian/etc
5) Thai/Polynesian/Philippine/etc

There are distinct differences, that is not at all under debate; just how you can possibly get three, and where you would put New Guinean/Australians?

44 posted on 01/27/2011 5:34:15 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: InternetTuffGuy

“Michael Cremo’s “Forbidden Archeology” should be required reading. “
___________

ROFL

Few asylums even allow reading, less “required reading”.


45 posted on 01/27/2011 5:36:08 PM PST by Little Pharma
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To: muawiyah
the folks who moved out of Africa some 75,000 years ago, constitutes about 85% of modern humans! Does that mean that Africa is not good for us? Or does that say something about us?

To me it suggests that the genetic "bottleneck" theory related to the explosion of the Toba supervolcano in Indonesia may have validity. Genetic evidence suggests the world's entire human population was reduced to between 1,000 and 10,000 breeding pairs as a result of that calamity about 70,000 years ago. All humans alive today, the theory says, are descended from them. A great deal would depend on where those surviving breeders were located. Maybe they were the San descendants who migrated out of Africa.

46 posted on 01/27/2011 5:41:15 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Little Pharma
Few asylums even allow reading, less “required reading”.

Blubba flubba goo goo moo moo gerkin. That's what you just said.

47 posted on 01/27/2011 5:43:22 PM PST by InternetTuffGuy
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To: allmendream

I’m not lumping similar genes together as you say like Chinese and Thai. They’re mongoloid. Within each race, as your chart points out, there are differences. What I was intimating was there are only three distinct races and within those races are sub-races such as Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Lao, etc. But they’re all considered or classified as mongoloid.


48 posted on 01/27/2011 5:43:22 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: ReverendJames

I read several years ago that Caucasians and Mongoloids ((ncluding American Indians) all share a gene that indicates a common male ancestor that lived in Central Asia more than 30,000 years ago.


49 posted on 01/27/2011 5:44:24 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: ReverendJames
My question is when did they become white and move to Europe?

With more and more research into the past of humans, researchers will "discover" that, humans started in the northern climates and went south in search of the warmer climates, sort of the "snowbirds" of the prehistoric ages.
50 posted on 01/27/2011 5:45:55 PM PST by adorno
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To: haroldeveryman

I’m wondering then where the division started. Somewhere there has to be a split of sorts. The two are so similarly different.


51 posted on 01/27/2011 5:47:06 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: decimon

“Humans ‘left Africa much earlier’”...

A racist statement if I ever heard one. So, who lives there now?


52 posted on 01/27/2011 5:47:12 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: decimon

Another very controversial study strongly suggests humans left Africa much later, sometime last Saturday afternoon.


53 posted on 01/27/2011 5:49:51 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: ReverendJames
First things first. What do you mean by There are not three distinct races. Is not black a race? Is not white a race? Is not mongoloid a race? What does the term 'race' mean to you?

The black/white/mongoloid breakdown is a very rough separation. Among blacks, look at variations of sub-Saharan people: the tall Watusi, the pygmies, the lighter-skinned Khoikhoi, the darker-skinned Bantu, the Somali -- there's a lot of variation there. Similarly among Caucasians you have the fair-skinned red haired Irish versus the dark-skinned people of India, and variations in between. Among mongoloids you have Japanese, Polynesian, American Indian, etc. From one way of looking at it, there are dozens or hundreds of races.

54 posted on 01/27/2011 5:51:00 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: adorno

So would that out the so-called cradle of humanity in Africa to rest? It would seem that more probable. But then, it comes back to when modern humans formed. I don’t think that humans would want to go north to cool down.


55 posted on 01/27/2011 5:51:03 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: PapaBear3625

The way I still see it though, there are sub-races within the three primary races. I understand that. My original contention was there were just the three races: Negroid, Caucasoid and Mongoloid. From them came all the others. It had to have started out at some time with those three distinct races.


56 posted on 01/27/2011 5:53:33 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: ReverendJames

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_African_origin_of_modern_humans


57 posted on 01/27/2011 5:55:58 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: haroldeveryman

Good Grief!!! The reference section at the bottom is enough to keep someone busy for years. I’m going back to my Michael Connelly book, Echo Park.


58 posted on 01/27/2011 5:58:17 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: ReverendJames
My original contention was there were just the three races: Negroid, Caucasoid and Mongoloid. From them came all the others. It had to have started out at some time with those three distinct races.

If it turns out to be true that the non-African races interbred with Neanderthals, then you would have a much greater genetic separation between the Africans and the rest.

59 posted on 01/27/2011 6:00:57 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: babygene

‘Who’s to say they were human? ‘

If they manufactured tools beyond stone axes they were human.


60 posted on 01/27/2011 6:04:26 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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