Skip to comments.The Dark-Sky Movement
Posted on 01/31/2011 9:15:12 PM PST by americanophile
Stargazers now have their Graceland. The Channel Island of Sark, located 80 miles south of England, has been designated as the world's first dark-sky island.
Dark-sky communities are places with very little to no light pollution. As a result, the stars are far easier to see and more fun to look at. According to a buzzy article from SPACE.com, Sark is just 4.5 square miles and has "no public street lighting, no paved roads, and no cars." In other words, save for the occasional flashlight or matchstick, there aren't a lot of things to interfere with the nighttime display, which includes "meteors streaking overhead and countless stars on display."
The International Dark-Sky Association (IDA) makes the call on whether or not a community deserves to join their movement. And plenty would like to. The Burlington Free Press explains that dark-sky legislation "has been embraced by about 300 countries, cities, and towns." At first this might sound like something only nature enthusiasts would really care about, that's not so. The United States military is also getting behind the legislation. Too much light can interfere with drills at military bases.
And while they don't exactly get a say in the matter, it's worth noting that creatures big and small would likely also be in favor of more dark-sky rules. Again, according to the Burlington Free Press, there is evidence that "nighttime lights disturb animals and ecosystems."
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It was a sark and dormy night...
Well, we have the option to turn them on...
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Shouldn’t need legislation for a dark sky. It’s a ridiculous concept.
Thanks a lot. Now here comes another Obama “idea”. The EPA will designate light as a “pollutant” and institute a “photon tax” to make us more like our North Korean brothers.
I agree with you.
Post of the night!!
Be careful what you wish for.
Our house burned down two years ago and after fighting the insurance company for a year, I started rebuilding about a year ago.
The Town has started enforcing “dark sky” rules, which means that the only outdoor light fixtures allowed are both extraordinarily ugly, and outrageously expensive.
The regulations make no sense at all since we are adjacent to a larger city which has numerous all-night business, complete with outdoor neon signs.
The dark sky movement was invented by Stalinists to bring communism to America.
Dark sky towns are targets for criminals and gangs who can easily break into businesses and homes under cover of the Stalinist ‘dark sky’ movement.
Property owners cannot light their own back yards, the dark sky Stalinists will use the force of government to fine them if their lights are too bright, or soon,if they are incandescent.
Dark sky streets and highways are lit with useless ‘energy saving’ bulbs that don’t produce enough light for it to illuminate the pavement directly under ‘dark sky’ light fixtures.
Dark sky footpath lights and business lights that droop and point down, also have the same outcome. Not enough light to light the pavement, and the amber dull color isn’t good enough light to perform any task outside.
That’s the dark sky movement. Its not some romantic or nostalgic idea, it has its purpose just like any soviet inspired social engineering scheme.
Isn’t that Obama’s energy plan?
Its not an Obama idea, its been happening for at least 10 years. Many towns and cities whose corrupt elected officials attend ICLEI conferences bring back those Stalinist ideas and force them on citizens who don’t understand the origin of these things. California went dark under Schwarzenegger, the Austrian socialist governor.
Your elected officials must have been influenced by ICLEI.
Gezzz, either your post is the most hysterically ignorant post of the past year, or the funniest sarcastic post in the past 3 weeks...
Ding ding ding, we have a winner! The Stalinists pull the Alinsky method, right out of the box.
Did you read Curly Dave’s post?
You clearly have never seen Los Angeles on approach from 8,000 feet...
Hard to believe your bizarre ignorant comments here...
No, but I’ve read your stupid a$$ comments...Your spin here is speeding up the rotation of the planet, please stop...
Are you on crack? No, seriously... Are you on crack? That has to be the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. You would actually seem smarter if you admitted to smoking crack before you posted that.
The “dark skies” movement has nothing to do with Obama, Stalin, or any other boogeyman you’ve got running around in your skull. It’s about reducing stray light in the night sky; nothing more and nothing less.
Post #16. Precisely correct. The entire “dark sky” concept is something that Stalinists promote solely in modern, Western nations...to bring them down a peg.
LOL! My thoughts...
<Post #16. Precisely correct. The entire dark sky concept is something that Stalinists promote solely in modern, Western nations
You buying into #16 makes you a frightening fruitcake too...
I'm getting the monkey moving feeling again...
((((It's a mad house)))
Is that the name of your crack dealer?
And on a related matter: The darkest spot in America has been located. It can be found approximately 8cm behind hedgetrimmer’s eyes.
You and your buddy ought to check yourselves into a rubber room...
“...In 1919 an Italian socialist named Antonio Gramsci began to publish a newspaper in Milan called, L’Ordine Nuovo, or “The New Order.” Loosely rendered, he concluded that the average person would never voluntarily reject the faith and culture of the West. He concluded that the best way to implement a collectivist government was to use an intellectual elite to destroy traditional values by attacking fundamental Jewish and Christian beliefs.”
Antonio Gramsci, 1891-1937
...A. The New Order (L’Ordine Nuovo)
......1. Italian Communist newspaper, founded 1919
......2. Co-founder of Italian Communist Party, 1921
......3. Pre-Prison Writings, ed. Richard Bellamy (Cambridge, 1994)
......4. Selections from the Prison Notebooks (Intl. Publishers, 1971)
...B. Lenin was wrong, and the Leninist revolution will fail
......1. The workers will see the revolutionary government as a new boss
......2. When the revolution fails, the west will re-import Capitalism
...C. Gradual revolution through infiltration & subversion by revolutionaries
......1. Infiltrate the State: elective & appointed office; judgeships
......2. Infiltrate the military: enlist & subvert from within
......3. Infiltrate justice: undermine and discredit state constitutions
......4. Infiltrate education: professors & administrators
......5. Infiltrate & discredit religion: scoundrels as clergymen
......6. Register, then license, then confiscate all privately held weapons
...D. Form or infiltrate international organizations to promote goals such as “global understanding,” “economic development,” “transfer of resources”
...E. Both Capitalism and Judaeo-Christian culture must be destroyed before a Communist revolution can succeed
......1. Religious sentiment cannot be destroyed through legislation, as Lenin believed, but must be redirected from the divine to the state
.........a. Terror will only drive Religion underground
.........b. Religion will then reemerge when Leninism fails
.........c. So Religion must be destroyed in the minds of men
......2. Infiltrate religious academies and become priests and clergymen
.........a. Subtly promote heresy within religious organizations
.........b. Infiltrators must act so as to discredit the church
............(1) Cause financial and sexual scandals
............(2) See that this is given a high profile in the news
............(3) Like-minded infiltrators in the media will cooperate
......3. Once religion is discredited from within, continuously promote the idea that only the state can solve the problems that have been traditionally brought before the church
...F. When propagating revolutionary ideas, cloak them in polite terms
......1. National Consensus
......2. Popular Mandate
......3. National Pacification
......5. Global Community
......6. Economic Justice
......7. Economic Democracy
......8. Liberation Theology
......9. Direct Action
...G. Marxists “must enter into every civil, cultural, and political activity in every nation, leavening them as yeast leavens bread.”
Ohhhh man....This is anti-Jewish too huh?
(((It’s a mad house)))
I thought I'd seen and read everything on FR...Now this... It just don't get anymore hysterical...
The International Dark Sky Week: From April 4 through April 10, 2010, the International Dark Sky Week celebrates the heritage of the nighttime sky by also encouraging people to turn out unnecessary lights. The event began in 2003 as National Dark-Sky Week in the United States and officially became international in 2009, during the International Year of Astronomy. The key to success is participation.
To participate International Dark Sky Week this year, here are some suggestions:
* Turn out your outdoor lights during the week whenever safe to do so.
* Light only when and where needed.
* Encourage friends and neighbors to do the same.
* Change out lights to something more energy efficient and shielded if possible.
* Find out if there are any star parties or events at a local observatory during the week to promote dark skies awareness.
For more information on the International Dark Sky Week, visit www.darkskiesawareness.org/idsw.php http://www.darkskiesawareness.org/idsw.php .
I’m not seeing “promote fanatical devotion to astronomy” on the list.
It does make one wonder just how much light pollution is caused by glowing crack pipes!
“There are plenty of places, right here in the good ol’ USA, where there are “dark skies”.”
When much younger and in my “mountain woman” phase of life, I moved for a year up into the foothills above Boulder, CO. It was a small town (emphasis on word small) called Ward. I lived in a pretty log cabin w/my two dogs right on Boulder Creek. You had to walk across a wooden footbridge to get to my cabin. It was a wonderful place to live, and incredibly beautiful. At night when you went outside, the stars were like low hanging fruit. They were multitudinous, and so bright they sparkled like Swarovski crystals. If you reached your hands up you could almost touch them. There were a few times when the sky seemed to hang so low that it was almost oppressive, and I’d start to feel slightly claustrophobic.
I have always loved stargazing, and will fondly remember my year up there in the mountains for the magnificent light shows I was privileged to see. I wish everyone could have the same experience at least once in life.
The watermelons aren’t promoting “astronomy,” instead, they are promoting anything that tears down the West’s technology and order and finances.
This is why they promte random welded-together pieces of scrap metal as “art” when in reality it is merely junk that will be discarded with malice by future generations.
It is why they promote tearing down hydro-electric dams in the name of “fish” when the reality is that they want less power to be available to the West, and for power to cost the West more.
And yes, it is why they promote dark skies for “astronomy” when their real purpose is to increase crime and decrease the civilizing aspects of outdoor lighting in the West.
These ideas above, all of them, are specifically *not* promoted in non-Western nations.
Not in China. Not in Africa. Not in India.
They promote such ideas in the West solely to tear us down.
Shot this recently, using CLS filters...
M27 Planetely Nebula, about 1360 light years from earth. It's basically a star, where it's outer shell blew off....
M27 Taken 9/4/2010 19x135second ISO 800 Total exposure 42 minutes 45 seconds, 6.3focal reducer--Canon 40D
I guess this makes me a Communist and socialist ..
Further why should your paranoia that demands floodlighting your property be allowed to include floodlighting MY property?
Maybe we should call those lights you need, "INSECURITY" lights.
And I don't care for the amber lights either nor the anemic LED /solar road lights;much better would be white lights that simply shine on the sidewalks,lots or whatever and neither into the sky nor blind those who wish to enjoy a view of the sky from their property.
I travel a major highway lit from ONE side by blazing lamps angled about 45 degrees in a vain attempt to light 5 lanes ! They shine in one's eyes and over the neighboring hillside;I bet a fourth of their light actually falls on the road! But the old lights on both sides did a much better job.
What does Gramsci have to do with the subject matter here, I think is what people are having trouble with.
Let me rephrase my earlier comment: Where is “promote an expensive hobby that can only be enjoyed by citizens of an affluent, capitalist nation” on the list?
Answered in Post #42.
While we’re on the subject of hobbies only available to decadent Capitalists, I have a question for you: How well to the batteries hold up in digital cameras like yours when taking astrophotos? Years ago, I remember looking for a 35mm SLR with a mirror hold-up lever to avoid draining the battery during long exposures.
All people are asking if that they use thoughtful common sense lighting fixtures, that direct the light down where it's needed, instead of up into the atmosphere.
These people here making this out to be some kind of Communist conspiracy, are freaking crazy.
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