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Total Gun Porn: Sons of Guns on Discovery Channel (vanity)
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Posted on 02/03/2011 8:21:23 PM PST by Free Vulcan

Sons of Guns showcases one of America's most skilled and creative gun works, Red Jacket Firearms, and its founder, Will Hayden. While pursuing its bread-and-butter work with customizing and improving AK-47's, the Baton Rouge, Louisiana team delves into the world of historic and classic weapons. See how this amazing group of eclectic gunsmiths build one-of-a-kind custom firearms and other weapons every Wednesday at 9 p.m. E/P starting January 26.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Sports
KEYWORDS: banglist; batonrouge; cool; discovery; guns; louisiana; redjacket; sonsofguns; tv
My buddy turned me on to this show. It is top shelf gun porn. They do seriously amazing modifications, like making a silenced shotgun and converting a ma deuce from semi to full-auto, to restoring a real WWII flamethrower. I'm hooked already.
1 posted on 02/03/2011 8:21:29 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: Joe Brower

Bang!


2 posted on 02/03/2011 8:22:51 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Free Vulcan
"...and converting a ma deuce from semi to full-auto"

Why did they need to do that? I thought the .50 cal could go from semi to auto with a simple twist of a knob underneath the butterfly trigger.

3 posted on 02/03/2011 8:27:19 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Free Vulcan
converting a ma deuce from semi to full-auto

I was scratching my head during that episode. I didn't know they even made a semi-auto ma deuce. I still don't know why.

4 posted on 02/03/2011 8:30:58 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: Free Vulcan

I LOVE this show.


5 posted on 02/03/2011 8:34:36 PM PST by Adams (Fight on!)
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To: Flag_This

Actually they built the MA Deuce from an original WWII parts kit.


6 posted on 02/03/2011 8:36:16 PM PST by Husker24
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To: SeeSharp
"I was scratching my head during that episode. I didn't know they even made a semi-auto ma deuce. I still don't know why. "

I remember reading that Carlos Hathcock used an M2 occasionally for sniping. A quick google came up with this:

"Hathcock generally used the standard sniper rifle: the Winchester Model 70 .30-06 caliber rifle with the standard 8-power Unertl scope. On some occasions, however, he used a different weapon: the .50-caliber M2 Browning Machine Gun, on which he mounted the Unertl scope, using a bracket of his own design.[9] This weapon had a Traversing and Elevating (T& E) mount that enabled precise aiming: it was accurate to 2500 yards when fired one round at a time."

link.

7 posted on 02/03/2011 8:40:34 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Husker24
"Actually they built the MA Deuce from an original WWII parts kit."

It all makes sense now. Thanks.

8 posted on 02/03/2011 8:42:10 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Banglist keyword BUMP!


9 posted on 02/03/2011 8:43:09 PM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: Free Vulcan
I like the part where they set the swamp on fire with the M-2.

And I am developing a school crush on Stephanie.

10 posted on 02/03/2011 9:05:11 PM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: oyez

I can’t decide if she’s actually attractive or if I’m just attracted to women shooting large caliber guns as a general principle.


11 posted on 02/03/2011 9:09:34 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Back around 1975 I knew a gunsmith in Ashford, Alabama. One day he showed me a barreled action in the white. It was in .22 Mag. He said he originally intended it for .222 Remington but decided the really light action might be taking a chance with that cartridge.

It had two rear locking luggs and the action was very slick. The lugs looked plenty strong to me but I guess he just wasn’t going to take the chance.

If I owned a manufacturing company I would have bought the design as it was really smooth operating


12 posted on 02/03/2011 9:15:47 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Free Vulcan

Loved the suppressed shotgun by Saiga.

Rebuilt a WWII Flame Thrower for a Medal of Honor Marine.

Too cool.


13 posted on 02/03/2011 9:18:51 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: Free Vulcan

I be happy if she would come over and shoot my M-16 or any thing else my collection..


14 posted on 02/03/2011 9:22:38 PM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: Vendome

That marine took out 6 pillboxes with seven flamethrowers, he would use one up and had to crawl back for a fresh one every time, nobody else was bringing them to him.

If we ever have a brass shortage I am digging his grave up after he passes away because I know I will find the biggest set of brass balls on earth.

And they let him take out a pillbox one last time, it was a tear jerker.

Overall the show is improving, at first I was dismayed at their apparently abundant use of large grinders on firearms, their “masterkeye” episode left me confused because I have several decades of machining, fabrication and also a hobbyist gunsmith and I would have done something different.

But starting with episode 3 they are doing the “Don’t do this at home” spiel and they also created a scene about the NFA waiting period to obtain a silenced shotgun. I guess that disappointed a ton of Saiga blingers!

The episode of the ma deuce was a bit corny, the additional strategic drama reeks of the overdone cartoonish explanations of what might happen in Ice Road Truckers.

Using a pneumatic air hammer so casually like that shows total amateurism, either that or a revival of Confederate ingenuity. I like the girl, the dad reminds me of my own who was a Marine Corp Demolitions expert.

I hope the show does good and doesn’t have the stench of manufactured drama like they did with other reality shows.


15 posted on 02/03/2011 9:32:43 PM PST by Eye of Unk (What is YOUR snipe hunt?)
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To: yarddog

Did that smithie live way off the road and you had to drive over a ‘plate’ in the driveway about twoo hundred yards from the shop? ... If it’s the same gunsmith, that was where I fired my first suppressed Beretta.


16 posted on 02/03/2011 9:40:57 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Thanks for the tip. I just set my DVR to record them.


17 posted on 02/03/2011 9:45:02 PM PST by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: Eye of Unk

“Overall the show is improving, at first I was dismayed at their apparently abundant use of large grinders on firearms”
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What kind of grinder? i dind’t see the episode? I’m going to set mu DVR to recoed the next one.

Are you talking about a hand grinder you see welders use in fab shops to knock the rough edges of plate or something?

or a machine tool type of grinder?


18 posted on 02/03/2011 10:34:09 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

I’m talking about what looks like a 4 or 4 1/2” surface grinders making a ton of sparks with a camera angle to make it dramatic.

Of course they are not going to make it an educational documentary showing how to restore a welded side plate on a de-milled M-2, they very briefly mentioned that though.

The most radical I have ever gotten was a Dremel to a feed ramp on my 1911 barrel.


19 posted on 02/03/2011 10:42:14 PM PST by Eye of Unk (What is YOUR snipe hunt?)
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To: Eye of Unk

Ya. I got radical and used a Dremel to put a 11* recessed target crown on my Mini barrel. I dressed a grind stone to
match the profile and it worked out real nice.

Before that I had it cut and threaded 12-28 for AR compensators. That was done by a gunsmith. he silver soldered an M14 style sight on and a machinist friend made me a long M14 style flash hider, so now it looks much like a real M14.


20 posted on 02/03/2011 11:02:35 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

I filled in my fiberglass stock where it was cut for the M14 select fire switch, I should have bought the fake selector switch and installed it, make my M1A look like an M14, it would have been nice to have the full auto option but I would never need it, not in .308 anyway.


21 posted on 02/03/2011 11:06:22 PM PST by Eye of Unk (What is YOUR snipe hunt?)
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To: Eye of Unk

Hehe... My uncle told me that in Vietnam he tried out for SAW man and couldn’t control the M14 on full auto. it went
straight up in the air on him. So he laid prone and emptied another magazine. It drove him back about a foot in the dirt.

He quit trying. He was only about 140 lbs soakin wet.


22 posted on 02/03/2011 11:14:53 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

I had an SKS that I decided one day to shoot a few round through, I had bought it and never stripped it down to clean the free floating firing pin, well it was full of enough crud that it went nearly full auto on me, every time I pulled the trigger I would get doubles or triples.


23 posted on 02/04/2011 12:06:34 AM PST by Eye of Unk (What is YOUR snipe hunt?)
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To: Free Vulcan

Great show – it has it’s good and bad points however.

Good – brings guns more out of the shadows, making them less of a ‘Taboo subject’

Good – Informs people about guns and gets them interested in the subject of personal defense.

Bad – The usual (most likely Lawyers mandated) do not try this at home BS.

What aren’t we supposed to try at home? Protecting ourselves? Exercising our God given right of self-defense?

Bad – Not sure if the producers of the show want to cast gun owners in a bad light or not.

In one of the episodes, Will talks with some potential handgun buyers and warns them that gunfights aren’t like the moves, etc.

Yeah, NSS. But what’s the alternative to defending yourself?


24 posted on 02/04/2011 5:45:43 AM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: MHGinTN

He may have moved his shop but it was in downtown Ashford when I knew him.

Now that I think about it, he was only part time. I think his wife ran the shop during the week as he worked at the nuclear power plant.


25 posted on 02/04/2011 9:56:21 AM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog

Probably not the same smithie then. Perhaps it was his son whom I met in the early nineties. My son took me from Montgomery, North to a gunsmith who was making suppressors for weapons. The suppressor I tested was a ‘grease packed suppressor’.


26 posted on 02/04/2011 10:08:42 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Voice of Reason88
Will talks with some potential handgun buyers and warns them that gunfights aren’t like the movies, etc.

I thought that part was good- they both seemed to get the point- he said "Let me show you how things go" as he (without warning them) promptly emptied his handgun moving aggressively to the target. "Its fast, loud and violent with much of it happening between two and five feet."

He then sold them a .22 semi-automatic. They must have cut the part where he said "take this home and get familiar with it and then come back and get a gun."
27 posted on 02/04/2011 4:21:02 PM PST by philled (Lay on, Macduff! And damned be him that first cries “Hold, enough!”)
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To: philled

This week a suspected murderer was found in the Choctawhatchee River bottoms after a manhunt. He was armed with a .22 rifle.

He was killed but tragically also killed a K-9 officer and wounded another.

No, I would not use a .22LR if I knew I was going to be in a gunfight but time and again it has shown itself to be a real killer. It has several real advantages including accuracy, lack or recoil, lack of noise etc.


28 posted on 02/04/2011 7:08:16 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Free Vulcan

I watched the clips Discovery has up on Youtube. She’s OK. The hotness factor goes up several points when she’s firing a Ma Deuce, now I’ll grant you that.

I loved the clip where they rebuilt the flamethrower for the 89-year-old MOH recipient.

“That’s seventy pounds, Mr. Williams.”
“I don’t care if it’s 70 pounds, I WANT TO WORK IT!”

And then he goes out and has a grand old time with it. Awesome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hershel_W._Williams

}:-)4


29 posted on 02/06/2011 4:16:37 AM PST by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: Free Vulcan


Total Gun Porn: Sons of Guns on Discovery Channel (vanity)

Great Show (IMHO)

With our snowfall here in Mid-Missouri, I’ve had fantisies about using
a good old WWII era flame thrower to rid our driveway of a load of snow.

I thought it was great irony when “Sons of Guns” showed the 89-year old
Marine (Congressional Medal of Honor) getting to shoot the flame thrower
renovated by Red Jacket.
I just said to myself, if I didn’t have nosey neighbors “I need to get
me one of those for the winter-time!!!”.

Probably would emit the same or less green-house gases as some
gas-powered snow blower!!!


30 posted on 02/07/2011 1:17:01 AM PST by VOA
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To: Free Vulcan
The show is on right now and I have been enjoying watching these guys work. It's like American Choppers but without the dysfunction.
31 posted on 03/27/2011 5:20:39 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.conservativedna.com/)
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To: Free Vulcan

I lost interest after the 4th episode or so.

Possibly the fact that I am a fabricator, a gunsmith, a reloader and a firearms collector may have swayed my view.
They should have stayed more to precision and documentary style instead of false effect propaganda. Yes that is exactly how they come off to me, showing how to destroy, how to be careless, too much false drama for effect.

IT SUCKS

Besides they pissed me off by cutting off the Mythbusters episodes.


32 posted on 03/27/2011 5:27:42 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("These people are either at your neck or at your knees" A quote by Winston Churchill)
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To: VOA


Stephanie Hayden

Great show by the way, and I mean seriously ...
33 posted on 09/10/2011 4:38:56 PM PDT by Scythian
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