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The Huge Clue Everyone Is Missing re: Sign of the Radical Islamic Focus of Egyptian Overthrow
Video from FNC, CNN, others

Posted on 02/11/2011 11:01:17 AM PST by MindBender26

The overthrow of the Egyptian government is being led by the hard-corps Islamics, and there is video to prove it.

We are repeating history.

In 1962, a group of senior enlisted USAF photo interpreters was secretly slipped into the back door at the White House. They were there to brief President Kennedy. There had been unconfirmed rumors of a significant Russian military presence in Cuba, but the CIA agents on the ground were supplying conflicting information, and no proof of anything. In addition, no one had reported the missile crates being unloaded from Russian ships in Cuban harbors. The crates were labeled “Tractor Parts’ and the U.S believed them.

The old sergeants claimed they had proof. They laid aerial photographs of newly constructed athletic fields outside expanding Cuban military bases. Kennedy’s aides scoffed, claiming loudly that a few photographs of athletic fields proved nothing.

Kennedy himself asked, “What does a picture of a few new soccer fields prove?”

The wise old E-7, veteran of discovering hidden details from seemingly innocuous pictures quietly said; “Mr. President, Cubans play baseball. These are soccer fields. It’s the Russians who play soccer.”

Kennedy immediately put into motion the additional recon and operations that led up to the Cuban Missile Crisis.

An old CIA friend/source just called with a unique perspective. Everyone looking at the live TV pictures coming out of Tahrir Square is seeing, but missing one critically important detail.

Up until now, life in Cairo has been very secular. Businessmen wore expensive Western suits. Most upscale women were very stylish, dressed in the latest Paris fashions, their hair and makeup professionally done before every evening out, etc. Headscarves were very rare.

Tonight, the women in Tahrir Square are again paying tribute to the classic male-dominated Islamic culture. I watched for 15 minutes, and every woman had on a headscarf. Some were modern, silk, and stylish. Other were more basic, covering all but the eyes nose and mouth.

Regardless of the style, they are all sending a strong message. It may seem like a small clue, but Egyptians know that the hard-corps Islamics are, or will soon be, in charge of the new Egyptian government, and the women already know that to defy them can be disastrous.

It will get worse, much worse, very quickly.

Thank you Barack Obama.


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KEYWORDS: chat; crushislam; egypt; egyptcrisis; ikhwan; islam; israel; mubarak; muslimbrotherhood; notchat; vanity; waronterror
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Those who scorn history are doomed to repeat it.
1 posted on 02/11/2011 11:01:20 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26

Interesting observations.

The head wear wasn’t completely absent in Egypt, but I agree that it has certainly become more common of late. That it is a response to the influence and potential power of the Islamic Revolution is without question.

So many of the people say they want a secular government, but they mean “Not Iran,” as opposed to “not Islamic.”


2 posted on 02/11/2011 11:05:00 AM PST by HushTX (If the best defense is a good offense, it's a good thing I'm really offensive.)
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To: MindBender26

I noticed the same thing last night too, what happened to all of the babes in Chanel with designer sunglasses? Secular much?


3 posted on 02/11/2011 11:05:08 AM PST by acapesket
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To: MindBender26

I watched the news at lunch w/Mrs. Henkster, who is not normally so keen on politics and world affairs. When they showed the video from Cairo, I asked her “Where have we seen this before?” Without hesitation she said “Iran.”


4 posted on 02/11/2011 11:06:32 AM PST by henkster (Before we make any more "investments" we ought to be shown the prospectus.)
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To: acapesket

Know what you mean. Typical upscale woman on the street in Istanbul or Cairo, even Tehran from time to time, can put Paris to shame.


5 posted on 02/11/2011 11:07:05 AM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: acapesket

I have yet to hear anyone in the MSM talk about Obama’s outreach to the Muslim world, or the fact that his major speech to the Muslim world took place in Egypt.

Does anyone else get the impression that the Obama administration has no clue how to respond or what to say about this situation? And will the MSM talk about Islamic influence in this revolution, and what that says about Obama and his Muslim outreach and all that?


6 posted on 02/11/2011 11:07:48 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: MindBender26

There is a picture I saw on a FR thread showing the Egyptian youth through the years. Low and behold in the year 2011 the youth were all wearing burqa’s. Just 10 years ago they were “western” ized.

How can I find that pic??? Does anyone have it?


7 posted on 02/11/2011 11:08:05 AM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?o)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

ABC News White House correspondent Jake Tapper wrote on Twitter about 40 minutes ago that the Obama administration is basically clueless as to the ramifications to the United States of the overthrow of the Egyptian government of Hosni Mubarak.

“Also worth keeping in mind: cant find anyone in O admin who thinks whatever comes next will be better for U.S. interests than Mubarak was”

This comes after Obama campaigned for Mubarak’s overthrow.



8 posted on 02/11/2011 11:09:32 AM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: MindBender26

I have lived and worked in Egypt for more than three decades, and thus the video of the protestors was chilling. My analysis was that about one in four in Tahrir was an Ikhwan. From information I have received from Alexandria the number of students and pro-Ikhwan protestors was absolutely chilling. Fortunately, the military has not ceded power, Baradai has showed his known cowardly streak, and not much has changed in Egypt.


9 posted on 02/11/2011 11:10:40 AM PST by Melchior
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To: MindBender26

Yup. Thanks for the post MB.


10 posted on 02/11/2011 11:12:07 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: GoCards
As you can see, despite the size of the picture, the female graduates in 1959 and 1978 had bare arms, wore short sleeved blouses,  dresses, or pants, and were both bare-faced and bare-headed. By  1995, we see a smattering of headscarves—and by 2004 we see a plurality of female university graduates in serious hijab: Tight, and draping the shoulders.

Class of 1959

Class of 1978
 

Class of 1995

Class of 2004


11 posted on 02/11/2011 11:13:01 AM PST by NoLibZone (Obama must be impeached and tried for treason.)
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To: NoLibZone

Wow. Thank you. Quite a change huh.


12 posted on 02/11/2011 11:14:55 AM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?o)
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To: NoLibZone

But nobody forced them to (so far), right? It is a ‘cultural trend’.

Just like here, after 40 - 50 years of liberal / progressive movement, people (even the young people) turned more conservative.


13 posted on 02/11/2011 11:24:00 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: MindBender26

WELL, this is what we have a CIA and billions of taxpayer dollars and a pro-western Egyptian Military for. Hopefully they will make sure the Islamists are isolated - and exterminated.


14 posted on 02/11/2011 11:26:23 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: MindBender26

15 posted on 02/11/2011 11:28:39 AM PST by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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To: GoCards

The US has missed the sufferings of the people in these Arab countries exchanging them for the sake of foreign policy advantages for us. There is a circle of elite in government high office who trade back and forth with dictators for naturally their own regional benefit but ignore the torture, poverty and intimidation of the people.

Bush deserves credit for pushing for a freedom-democracy agenda, in these countries, which was shot down. Obama, the Wizard, should have known technology was behind this people’s revolt in Egypt.


16 posted on 02/11/2011 11:29:43 AM PST by RitaOK
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To: MindBender26

Could it be just because it’s cold?...............


17 posted on 02/11/2011 11:46:46 AM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: MindBender26; Melchior; NoLibZone

Thanks...(and tagline bump NLZ)

RESIGN Barack Obama.


18 posted on 02/11/2011 12:58:15 PM PST by PGalt
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To: RitaOK

Sorry, but you are into Political, Western-focused Anthropomorphism.

70% of the world’s people have no idea of what “freedom” is, no idea how to get it, and usually no desire to do so.

In addition, they have no idea how to manage it. Look at all the places the former colonial powers left, and left a representative government in power, but the former country quickly reverted to dictatorships.


19 posted on 02/11/2011 1:41:28 PM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: MindBender26

Mubarak On Now! [LIVE thread] (staying in office, gives middle finger to Obama)
Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:41:47 PM · 246 of 345
Uncle Miltie to muleskinner
Confirming the Egyptian Islamist Revolution is underway, check out this picture string from the Oregonian: Virtually no women on the street, and not a single woman without a head scarf.
http://photos.oregonlive.com/photo-essay/2011/02/egypt_protest_february_10_2011.html

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20 posted on 02/11/2011 1:56:48 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("And did you exchange a walk on part in a War, for a lead role in a cage?")
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To: Uncle Miltie

I win!


21 posted on 02/11/2011 2:00:30 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("And did you exchange a walk on part in a War, for a lead role in a cage?")
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To: Uncle Miltie

And oue POTUS was thrilled today in his speech and did not mention mideast peace or Israel or any inkling that we must be careful at who is in power.


22 posted on 02/11/2011 2:07:40 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Melchior; MindBender26
Could you add some detail regarding Ikhwan?

I'll look at google too.

23 posted on 02/11/2011 2:07:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Melchior; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle; onyx; SE Mom; blam; SunkenCiv; ...
OK...also found this...PDF:

The Ikhwan in North America - Nefafoundation

24 posted on 02/11/2011 2:15:50 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: GoCards

Yes
that was a great set of pictures from IIRC University of Cairo.
In the earlier 60’s photo the women were all bare sleeved and no head covering
in the one from last year all the women were scarved and or burqa’s

hmm search of University of cairo.
if you find it please repost it


25 posted on 02/11/2011 2:27:07 PM PST by RWGinger
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To: NoLibZone

ah thanks
I posted before I read all posts.
These pics plus the OP are very telling


26 posted on 02/11/2011 2:29:09 PM PST by RWGinger
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To: Melchior
Fortunately, the military has not ceded power, Baradai has showed his known cowardly streak, and not much has changed in Egypt.

Would you qualify that statement with a "yet"?

Do you see the next struggle as happening between MB and the military? Or is that too simplistic?

27 posted on 02/11/2011 2:41:07 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Ernest. I can’t shake the feeling that we’ve just witnessed a coup and it wasn’t done by the Egyptian military.


28 posted on 02/11/2011 2:42:57 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom
Was just looking at this:

American Thinker: Egypt After Mubarak (fear a radical Arab nationalist Egypt, not Islamist Egypt)

And then this:

The Muslim Brotherhood At The Yorba Linda, CA. Community Center Feb 13 2011 - 'STOP IT'

29 posted on 02/11/2011 2:47:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bump


30 posted on 02/11/2011 2:57:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: RitaOK

“Bush deserves credit for pushing for a freedom-democracy agenda, in these countries, which was shot down. Obama, the Wizard, should have known technology was behind this people’s revolt in Egypt.”

Excellent point. Early on, Obama eliminated funding for democratic movements throughout the ME. This is so the leaders would recognize him as the Twelfth Imam and melt in his hands. Not. The Clintons did the same thing to Afghanistan. It’s lieberals who practice the art of ignoring abuse of women and gays, rampant birth rates, polygamy and blatant violence.


31 posted on 02/11/2011 2:57:54 PM PST by bukkdems (Moral people; speak out against polygamy and ban the burqa!)
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To: MindBender26

Mark Steyn hosted for Rush Limbaugh on Monday 7Feb2011.
He described the graduating pictures posted above and came to the same conclusions posted here.


32 posted on 02/11/2011 2:58:30 PM PST by JG52blackman
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To: MindBender26
Time to start posting a link to Horowitz's book...at Amazon:

Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam And the American Left [Paperback]

****************EXCERPT ********************************

Vastly Illuminating, September 25, 2004>

By 
Kat Bakhu (Albuquerque, NM United States) - See all my reviews

I had long wondered why people on the Left had the propensity to speak more positively about people who would slit their throats than they do about their own country, which affords them more freedom and opportunity than anywhere else. David Horowitz has answered that question thoroughly and convincingly in his Unholy Alliance. Where I felt bewildered and confused, I now feel crystal clear. Unholy Alliance is such a great book.

It begins with the leftist movements at the beginning of the 20th Century, and works its way up to the present day, exploring the anti-American attitude of these movements in detail. Horowitz shows that the enemies of the US back then are largely the same group today, operating under the same misperceptions, making the same mistakes, and pursuing the same impossible utopia.

Individual chapters are included on the Patriot Act (I was persuaded that it is a GOOD thing); the democratic flip-flop on Iraq once G.W. Bush implemented what they agreed with Clinton needed to be done; the driving components of the current anti-war movement; as well as chapters on individual personalities who are major spokespeople of the Left. Horowitz covers a lot of ground, and he covers it concisely and clearly. Unholy Alliance is richly informative without ever being boring or plodding.

This book is so illuminating that I simply cannot do justice to it here. I love people who reason so clearly that they help me get my own reasoning clear. Horowitz is just that type of person! In the terrain of mindless clichés (no-blood-for-oil, etc.), he is a breath of real fresh air.

33 posted on 02/11/2011 3:01:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: NoLibZone
Tuesday I was covered from head to toe. I had my face, chin and head covered in cloth.

There was just a slit for my eyes.

I spent more than an hour in this garb, occasionally snow blowing in the direction of Mecca...

Snow blower Akbar!

34 posted on 02/11/2011 3:04:00 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: JG52blackman

Well, we now know who lurks here......


35 posted on 02/11/2011 3:06:31 PM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The internal, transliterated name for what we in the West call The Muslim Brotherhood.


36 posted on 02/11/2011 3:09:22 PM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The internal, transliterated name for what we in the West call The Muslim Brotherhood.

Like we called the Mafia, but they called La Costra Nostra, or just LCN.


37 posted on 02/11/2011 3:10:10 PM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: MindBender26

bttt


38 posted on 02/11/2011 3:11:18 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - World Disaster Map)
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To: MindBender26

Yep.


39 posted on 02/11/2011 3:11:18 PM PST by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BTT...and thanks Ernest.


40 posted on 02/11/2011 3:13:45 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: SE Mom

It has been the Ikhwan’s modus practically from the day of its founding to infiltrate the “professions.” Such has occurred in the legal profession, at the universities and in the lesser schools. Add to that a certain number of mosques and you have a dangerous mix. However, practically from its inception the Brotherhood has attacked the military. During the war for Israel’s independence the Ikhwan sent its own units to fight the Jews. With the departure of King Faruk it used General Naguib, who was favorably disposed, but that honeymoon lasted a short time. Sadat was a Brother when a junior officer, and he too was favorably disposed to the Ikhwan. Of course, his assassination changed all that. What I am saying here is that as long as the miitary is in power, and as long as it has not been infiltrated by the Brothers, the Ikhwan will not take over.
There are certain aspects of the present situation that have not been covered well. In the Sinai it seems that the beduin tribes of the north have basically taken charge of the region’s major city El Arish. I have heard that the US-financed Multi-National Force and Observers (MFO) has been ordered to quarters and may even be awaiting evacuation. I can hardly believe it, because this would throw the Sinai to the terrorists and create many more problems for Israel. How the military handles this situation should tell us a lot about the control they have over the country. I could go on. Simply put. Prior to Mubarak’s departure Egypt was a military dictatorship. After his departure it is a military dictatorship. How long and if that situation lasts is the $1,5 billion dollar question.


41 posted on 02/11/2011 3:38:22 PM PST by Melchior
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To: Personal Responsibility

Ping for later


42 posted on 02/11/2011 3:49:45 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (The more the plans fail the more the planners plan - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Melchior

Thank you so much for your informative post and for taking the time to explain to my western mind that knows ..how much I don’t know!

Wow- JUST this minute a caller on Mark Levin saying don’t look for the MB in turbans and robes and beards...look for them in suits and ties. His family lives in Egypt- he said the media coverage was appalling and NOT realistic...he sounded just like you.


43 posted on 02/11/2011 4:07:58 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From the document:
"During the first years in the United States, the Ikhwan were only loosely organized. A U.S. Chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood was formed in the early 1960s after hundreds of young Muslims came to the U.S. to study, particularly at large Midwestern universities in Illinois, Indiana and Michigan. The center of activity was the Muslim Students Association, founded in 1963. Some belonged to the Muslim Brotherhood in their homelands and wanted to spread its ideology here.11 In the 1970s, a new influx of Muslim Brothers from the Middle East created first tensions but in the end led to a more professional organization. Years later the leader of the organization office of the U.S. chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood, identified as Zeid al-Noman, said the first gathering of a grouping for Islam activists was without an organizational affiliation."

And one can be assured the Kenyan mingled among these groups once he moved to Chicago after roaming NYC for those few years.
44 posted on 02/11/2011 4:09:00 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: MindBender26

Tapper obviously didn’t ask Zero himself.

He clearly supports Islamic fundamentalism as evidenced by his refusal to support “Democracy” demonstrators in Iran.

ps Isn’t this similar to Honduras? Why isn’t he agitating for the return of the Dictator?


45 posted on 02/11/2011 4:10:22 PM PST by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Oh, Obama knows what to say; he just can’t say it in the U.S. without everyone finally, finally understanding who and what he really is.

Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama (yes, that is his real name) cannot step forward and reveal who he really is just yet. The time has not arrived.

Hopefully, the time will never arrive and he will be out of office soon.


46 posted on 02/11/2011 4:25:34 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: SE Mom; Melchior

These posts are the reason that FreeRepublic is my source for news. I am very appreciative of the posters who take the time to share their wealth of knowledge!


47 posted on 02/11/2011 4:35:58 PM PST by VirginiaMom
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To: NoLibZone

Tremendous post.


48 posted on 02/11/2011 4:38:04 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: smokingfrog

The irony in that picture is stunning. There they stand with nothing of them showing except eyes while they flash victory signs. What do they think they have won?


49 posted on 02/11/2011 5:18:29 PM PST by WVNan
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To: MindBender26

BINGO!!!!

I’ve had many long chats with my son about this and his HOPE had been that the whole freedom/democracy thing would sprout wings and take off in the ME...however, he has no faith that it will, for the very reasons you cite.

His thought is if we could teach them about free markets...they might have a chance. Of course- we’d have to teach ourselves about free markets again, but I digress...


50 posted on 02/11/2011 5:23:42 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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