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Ann Coulter at CPAC: "Gays are natural conservatives"
CPAC | 2-12-11

Posted on 02/12/2011 1:52:43 PM PST by icwhatudo

"You have culture telling gays to be liberal. The left is trying to coopt gays & I dont think we should let them"

Where is that jump the shark icon?


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KEYWORDS: anncoulter; coulter; cpac; homosexual; homosexualagenda; missinglink; unsourced; vanity
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1 posted on 02/12/2011 1:52:46 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: icwhatudo

Ann’s a fag hag?


2 posted on 02/12/2011 1:54:22 PM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: icwhatudo

I have a bad feeling about this.

Homosexual behavior is perverse.

There is nothing normal or conservative about it.

Let them go. And their money and influence, too.

If we can’t win on common sense, then we’ve already lost before the fight began.


3 posted on 02/12/2011 1:54:30 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: icwhatudo

lol.

That is just non sensical.


4 posted on 02/12/2011 1:54:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: Westbrook

GOProud doesn’t take any conservative stands as far as I know.


5 posted on 02/12/2011 1:55:26 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: icwhatudo

She has a point. Nothing the anti-gay FReepers can say will make homosexuals go away, nor even make them LESS a part of society and media. I’d rather have them voting conservative than Democrat, wouldn’t you? If you say no, it must mean you hate the person, and not the act. Think about it.


6 posted on 02/12/2011 1:55:36 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: icwhatudo

Maybe Ann is speaking from experience?


7 posted on 02/12/2011 1:56:14 PM PST by tatown (Obama is a turd)
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To: GeronL

> GOProud doesn’t take any conservative stands as far as I know.

Then they’re just commie plants.

That doesn’t surprise me.


8 posted on 02/12/2011 2:00:40 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Yaelle

Nehemiah refused the help of Sanballat and Tobiah because they hated the Lord God of Israel . . . Sodomites hate God or they would not be practicing their deviant behavior - I do not need thier help, let them vote for their own kind.


9 posted on 02/12/2011 2:03:23 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: icwhatudo

Every once in a while, Ann goes off the deep end. I’m afraid she’s doing it again. Too bad, because I usually really enjoy reading her stuff.

At least this would explain why she doesn’t like Sarah Palin. Too moral for her. Well, I think we need a president with moral values. Only way you can trust someone.

In proof of that, I would normally trust Ann to do the right thing. Then she comes out with this. Something cracked or broken in the moral compass, evidently.


10 posted on 02/12/2011 2:03:33 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: tatown

Coulter is joining Newt and Bob Barr as “conservatives” I no longer respect.


11 posted on 02/12/2011 2:03:43 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: icwhatudo

More details?


12 posted on 02/12/2011 2:04:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: icwhatudo
Welllll...yes and no. Certainly the conservative notion of keeping the government out of the bedroom coincides with one set of "gay" interests; however, the liberal notion of homosexuals as a protected class with special rights also has a certain appeal. Take sex out of it and there really isn't much difference. But you seldom can take sex out of it.

Personally I'd be perfectly happy if both parties would cease cultivating social reformers whose sole purpose is to tell other people how to live their lives. I'd also like a pony for Christmas. I'm likelier to get the pony.

13 posted on 02/12/2011 2:04:44 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Yaelle
If you say no, it must mean you hate the person, and not the act. Think about it.

Must be some kind logical fallacy somewhere in your thinking. If homosexuals are natural conservatives, nobody needs to pander to them. They'll either vote for the more conservative candidate or they won't.

14 posted on 02/12/2011 2:05:39 PM PST by Racehorse (Always preach the Gospel . . . . Use words if necessary.)
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To: icwhatudo

Really? What do they help us conserve? The family?

The GOP is a mess.


15 posted on 02/12/2011 2:06:19 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: GeronL
Even Tammy Bruce has left GOProud

Must've been some party Breitbart threw! LOL

16 posted on 02/12/2011 2:08:44 PM PST by jla
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To: little jeremiah

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49407.html


17 posted on 02/12/2011 2:08:44 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: little jeremiah
More details?

I too would like to see the original source and the context for the comments attributed to Ann Coulter. Unless there's something that somehow mitigates what she said, Coulter has come a long way from her moral clarity of 2001 with regard to Islam:

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.

In my opinion, the homosexual agenda is every bit as dangerous as is Islam. Both violate core precepts of Christianity, upon which America was founded.

18 posted on 02/12/2011 2:09:30 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: little jeremiah

The sodomites have a party that supports their agenda...they are called ‘democrats’.

If some sodomites support limited government and lower taxes; then they will have to ‘hold their nose’ and vote for the party that does not wish to further their agenda...they are called ‘republicans’.

Republicans should not alienate the majority of their base just to accommodate the 2% sodomites. That’s just not a good strategy.


19 posted on 02/12/2011 2:10:17 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: jla

I wonder if the Boy Scouts were invited to that party?


20 posted on 02/12/2011 2:11:37 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: GeronL

Perhaps Breitbart dressed up as one.


21 posted on 02/12/2011 2:16:25 PM PST by jla
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To: Pilgrim's Progress
Sodomites hate God or they would not be practicing their deviant behavior

Helllooooo? Are you kidding me?? Your sins are just peachy, and you are a good Christian, but if anyone's sins are abhorrent to you, then they "hate G-d"?

I've got news for you: G-d wants each of us to focus on our OWN sins. Yours (and mine) are NO BETTER than a gay man's sins.

22 posted on 02/12/2011 2:17:21 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Racehorse
If homosexuals are natural conservatives, nobody needs to pander to them. They'll either vote for the more conservative candidate or they won't.

I could not agree with you more. I do not think any of these Americans need their own group to be pandered to. I disagree with the gay agenda. I want everyone to vote conservative -- who cares who they have in their bed, and I do not want to know! LOL! But some people here do not want gays with us, because they are so "icky." That's ridiculous.

23 posted on 02/12/2011 2:20:44 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
Yours (and mine) are NO BETTER than a gay man's sins.

Do you celebrate your sin? Do you seek government and societys' approval of your sins? Do have Sin Pride Marches? Do you want your sin taught and mandated in public schools?

Being a sinner and asking God for forgiveness is very different that the HomoPride movements sins.

24 posted on 02/12/2011 2:23:34 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: Yaelle

When I sin, I acknowledge those acts and try not to do them again.

Gays revel in their sins and try to convince all that they are “O.K.”

We don’t need them. Vote RAT and begone.


25 posted on 02/12/2011 2:23:43 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Billthedrill

Conservatives don’t care what they do in their bedroom.

We care about what they are pushing in schools and society while demanding we approve of it. Thats not “in the bedroom”


26 posted on 02/12/2011 2:25:12 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: icwhatudo

They are natural anarchists, Ann. Not natural conservatives.

If they were natural conservatives, I’d be the gayest gay that ever sashayed through Gayville.


27 posted on 02/12/2011 2:25:19 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Westbrook
Homosexual behavior is perverse.

Stop acting as if perverse behavior is their exclusive domain. Do I name names?

Ann knows in the last 10 years Republicans have steadily gained among self-identified homosexual voters. In 2010, about 1/3 of gays voted GOP.

Loud mouth activists on both sides attack though. On the Left they are seen as self-hating traitors held to ridicule. On the right self-righteous "conservatives" deem them too impure to join even common causes such as smaller gov't, fiscal restraint and strong national defense.

Let them go. And their money and influence, too... If we can’t win on common sense, then we’ve already lost before the fight began.

In other words, only approved types needs join your cause. Good luck with that.

28 posted on 02/12/2011 2:25:31 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: Yaelle
I guess you've confused toleration and acceptance. The pracative of sodomy in private is tolerable, to accept the sodomite would be a sin on my part.

Just to review:

Definition of TOLERATION
1
a : the act or practice of tolerating something b : a government policy of permitting forms of religious belief and worship not officially established 

Definition of ACCEPTANCE
1
: an agreeing either expressly or by conduct to the act or offer of another so that a contract is concluded and the parties become legally bound
2
: the quality or state of being accepted or acceptable
3
: the act of accepting : the fact of being accepted : approval
4
a : the act of accepting a time draft or bill of exchange for payment when due according to the specified terms b : an accepted draft or bill of exchange 

29 posted on 02/12/2011 2:27:22 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cicero

Wonder if Ann has some relative who is gay?


30 posted on 02/12/2011 2:27:22 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Yaelle

I don’t like perverted people that force everyone to celebrate their perversion as “a good thing”.

We all have faults and sins. Most of us are embarassed and ashamed of them. We don’t flaunt them and call them “a good thing” nor demand others tell us how good we are for doing our faults and sins.

The issue is far bigger than just a simple “act”.


31 posted on 02/12/2011 2:27:48 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: GeronL

That’s precisely my point.


32 posted on 02/12/2011 2:27:49 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Yaelle

pracative = practice


33 posted on 02/12/2011 2:29:47 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: re_nortex

“Unless there’s something that somehow mitigates what she said, Coulter has come a long way from her moral clarity of 2001 with regard to Islam: “

Moral Clarity? She dated a pornographer and no one here ever had a problem. Fact is she is a great entertainer, sells a lot of books and what she says is true.

I truly believe she is doing this to tweek the left. CPAC and all these other events have turned into a joke. She is giving the crowd what they want and they pay her very well to do it.


34 posted on 02/12/2011 2:30:45 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The way to beat a terrorist is to terrorize him.)
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To: newzjunkey

It is not their exclusive domain.

The big difference though is that they as a political and legal activist movement are forcing their perversion onto people that don’t want it forced onto them, in schools, in legal area, and in churches. They are told they have to accept it and that it’s a good thing and you can’t say anything bad about it.

The other folks that aren’t sinless aren’t out there demanding holidays and everyone else to accept their perversion and pat them on the back for being such good perverts. the adulterers aren’t demanding a “Cheat on your Spouse” week or the rapists and pedophiles aren’t out there saying we have to accept and embrace them as God made them.


35 posted on 02/12/2011 2:32:13 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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36 posted on 02/12/2011 2:33:43 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GeronL
We care about what they are pushing in schools and society while demanding we approve of it.

You paint with far too broad a brush here. "They" are hell-raising radical leftists who checkoff homosexuality as their identity politics.

37 posted on 02/12/2011 2:34:13 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: Yaelle

You keep pushing homosexuality. They are not Conservative and their agenda isn’t.


38 posted on 02/12/2011 2:35:28 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: icwhatudo

Is there a link for this statement?


39 posted on 02/12/2011 2:35:56 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: icwhatudo

Many Prostitutes and drug dealers are conservative also.

Most want to keep their hard earned money.

Should we reserve a spot for them at conservative speaking engagements??


40 posted on 02/12/2011 2:36:27 PM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: newzjunkey

Look, I don’t care how they vote.

I don’t care what they do with their money.

I don’t care what they do in their homes.

JUST KEEP IT OUT OF MY FACE!!!!!

Problem with the gays is that they want to force everybody to give them whatever they want.

For example. If you have an apartment to rent-out, and a couple of men show up, smooching and patting eachother’s behinds, and you don’t want to rent to them, in NH, they’ll have you brought before the Human Rights Commissions, where you are tried without a jury, without appeal, and can be fined into penury and even imprisoned.

If a couple regular looking guys show up to rent the place, and there’s nothing unusual about their behavior, and you rent to them, THEN discover that they are using your apartment as a homo party venu, and you try to evict them,
in NH, they will have you brought before the Human Rights Commission, where you will be tried without a jury, and without appeal, and where you can be fined into penury or even imprisoned.

I don’t care what they do.

But that’s not enough for them.

They want to SHOVE IT DOWN MY THROAT and the throats of my family, they want to FORCE it on me, without giving me the right to say, “Not for me, thanks, but no thanks.”

I wouldn’t rent to unwed hetero couples, either.


41 posted on 02/12/2011 2:36:53 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You keep pushing homosexuality.

You might want to re-phrase that...

42 posted on 02/12/2011 2:38:08 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: icwhatudo

I think the gay issue needs to be a non-issue for conservatives. I happen to believe that it is not a choice but biologically based. The openly gay people that I personally know range from apolitical, to moderate to Reagan conservative, believe it or not.


43 posted on 02/12/2011 2:41:40 PM PST by ExpatCanuck
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To: Yaelle; Pilgrim's Progress
You TOTALLY misunderstand and misrepresent God.

I am a forgiven sinner. I have asked for and been granted grace. Have the homosexuals begged forgiveness of their sins? No. Are they trying to stop their sin? No.

I've got news for you: G-d wants each of us to focus on our OWN sins

How can you tell someone to repent if you don't tell what their sins are?! God does NOT want us to ignore sin.

44 posted on 02/12/2011 2:42:30 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: newzjunkey
In 2010, about 1/3 of gays voted GOP.

So what? Less than 2% of the population is homosexual.

45 posted on 02/12/2011 2:44:35 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: ExpatCanuck

Having said that - there is definitely a militant gay element that wants to ‘shove it down our throats’ as some posters so eloquently put it. And these folks are definitely enemies of our value system and way of life.


46 posted on 02/12/2011 2:44:51 PM PST by ExpatCanuck
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To: central_va

*ahem*


47 posted on 02/12/2011 2:46:38 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: ExpatCanuck

With the repeal of DADT “the agenda” has gone to far from tolerance to social acceptance. I think it should be at the top of every conservatives’ agenda. Your slack attitude towards those that insert their penises into other men’s anal cavity is not surprising coming from a liberal Canadian.


48 posted on 02/12/2011 2:48:29 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cicero
"Every once in a while, Ann goes off the deep end. I’m afraid she’s doing it again. Too bad, because I usually really enjoy reading her stuff./At least this would explain why she doesn’t like Sarah Palin. Too moral for her. Well, I think we need a president with moral values. Only way you can trust someone./In proof of that, I would normally trust Ann to do the right thing. Then she comes out with this. Something cracked or broken in the moral compass, evidently."

Two points I would raise in defense of Coulter here.

First, I have myself pointed out that on some of the great issues of the day, issues that divide the conservatives from the bandwagon bunch, Palin is silent. Given Coulter's opinion way back when re: nominating Roberts for the high court as a similarly silent 'conservative,' I see Ann's opinion as based in the notion that conservative voters deserve truly, clearly conservative nominees, not just tough talkers, but candidates who have stated on ALL the issues that matter to conservatives what their position is. I'm not in the 'doesn't like Palin' camp. I think she's entertaining, talks tough, and comes across as pretty nice on TV. But Dick Armey and Bob Barr are also entertaining and comes across as nice. I'm not inclined to vote for either, because I know they don't walk the walk, and only particularly against Palin because she hasn't walked the walk, hasn't even talked the talk, in my opinion, on some of those legally thorny issues I find of real importance. I'm betting that as an attorney, Ann places similar importance on knowing where Palin stands on some issues where Sarah has been silent. I won't say "Ann agrees with me"--she doesn't even know I'm alive, I'm sure--but that is where I think she stands on Palin.

As to the second point, a person can be immoral (from others' perspective) and personally liberal but conservative politically, and moral and personally conservative and hold leftist opinions politically (if you haven't seen any examples of these archetypes recently, I can give you a few names). What Ann says to my ears here when she speaks of gays being a constituency that we should try to bring in to the fold, is that gays should naturally be on the "limited government" reservation, having been on the receiving end of an active government, discriminating against them. Instead, they are going off the deep end attempting to legislate government into being a ham-handed enforcer for THEIR interests. The result will be the same as it was when the law became a hammer swinging for blacks, women, and other favored minority groups. That is to say, silent seething from those whose real liberties are imposed upon in the name of faux 'civil rights,' subtle repercussions created by the put-upon where those are possible, and an eventual backlash that will make the 60s look like a schoolyard pissing match.

49 posted on 02/12/2011 2:48:37 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (When Republicans don't vote conservative, conservatives don't vote Republican.)
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To: Yaelle

What are you talking about? She has no point. What she’s saying is ridiculous.


50 posted on 02/12/2011 2:49:24 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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