Posted on 02/12/2011 1:52:43 PM PST by icwhatudo
"You have culture telling gays to be liberal. The left is trying to coopt gays & I dont think we should let them"
Where is that jump the shark icon?
Look, I don’t care how they vote.
I don’t care what they do with their money.
I don’t care what they do in their homes.
JUST KEEP IT OUT OF MY FACE!!!!!
Problem with the gays is that they want to force everybody to give them whatever they want.
For example. If you have an apartment to rent-out, and a couple of men show up, smooching and patting eachother’s behinds, and you don’t want to rent to them, in NH, they’ll have you brought before the Human Rights Commissions, where you are tried without a jury, without appeal, and can be fined into penury and even imprisoned.
If a couple regular looking guys show up to rent the place, and there’s nothing unusual about their behavior, and you rent to them, THEN discover that they are using your apartment as a homo party venu, and you try to evict them,
in NH, they will have you brought before the Human Rights Commission, where you will be tried without a jury, and without appeal, and where you can be fined into penury or even imprisoned.
I don’t care what they do.
But that’s not enough for them.
They want to SHOVE IT DOWN MY THROAT and the throats of my family, they want to FORCE it on me, without giving me the right to say, “Not for me, thanks, but no thanks.”
I wouldn’t rent to unwed hetero couples, either.
You might want to re-phrase that...
I think the gay issue needs to be a non-issue for conservatives. I happen to believe that it is not a choice but biologically based. The openly gay people that I personally know range from apolitical, to moderate to Reagan conservative, believe it or not.
I am a forgiven sinner. I have asked for and been granted grace. Have the homosexuals begged forgiveness of their sins? No. Are they trying to stop their sin? No.
I've got news for you: G-d wants each of us to focus on our OWN sins
How can you tell someone to repent if you don't tell what their sins are?! God does NOT want us to ignore sin.
So what? Less than 2% of the population is homosexual.
Having said that - there is definitely a militant gay element that wants to ‘shove it down our throats’ as some posters so eloquently put it. And these folks are definitely enemies of our value system and way of life.
*ahem*
With the repeal of DADT “the agenda” has gone to far from tolerance to social acceptance. I think it should be at the top of every conservatives’ agenda. Your slack attitude towards those that insert their penises into other men’s anal cavity is not surprising coming from a liberal Canadian.
Two points I would raise in defense of Coulter here.
First, I have myself pointed out that on some of the great issues of the day, issues that divide the conservatives from the bandwagon bunch, Palin is silent. Given Coulter's opinion way back when re: nominating Roberts for the high court as a similarly silent 'conservative,' I see Ann's opinion as based in the notion that conservative voters deserve truly, clearly conservative nominees, not just tough talkers, but candidates who have stated on ALL the issues that matter to conservatives what their position is. I'm not in the 'doesn't like Palin' camp. I think she's entertaining, talks tough, and comes across as pretty nice on TV. But Dick Armey and Bob Barr are also entertaining and comes across as nice. I'm not inclined to vote for either, because I know they don't walk the walk, and only particularly against Palin because she hasn't walked the walk, hasn't even talked the talk, in my opinion, on some of those legally thorny issues I find of real importance. I'm betting that as an attorney, Ann places similar importance on knowing where Palin stands on some issues where Sarah has been silent. I won't say "Ann agrees with me"--she doesn't even know I'm alive, I'm sure--but that is where I think she stands on Palin.
As to the second point, a person can be immoral (from others' perspective) and personally liberal but conservative politically, and moral and personally conservative and hold leftist opinions politically (if you haven't seen any examples of these archetypes recently, I can give you a few names). What Ann says to my ears here when she speaks of gays being a constituency that we should try to bring in to the fold, is that gays should naturally be on the "limited government" reservation, having been on the receiving end of an active government, discriminating against them. Instead, they are going off the deep end attempting to legislate government into being a ham-handed enforcer for THEIR interests. The result will be the same as it was when the law became a hammer swinging for blacks, women, and other favored minority groups. That is to say, silent seething from those whose real liberties are imposed upon in the name of faux 'civil rights,' subtle repercussions created by the put-upon where those are possible, and an eventual backlash that will make the 60s look like a schoolyard pissing match.
What are you talking about? She has no point. What she’s saying is ridiculous.
Have you ever been to that ZombieTimes pictoral of a gay festival?
I think that everyone is conservative to the degree that they don't wish their own lives altered by someone else and progressive to the degree that they wish to inflict their own practices on others by coercion. That's sort of a sad definition of "progressive" but it seems accurate enough these days.
As far as nature vs. nurture with regard to human sexual behavior, I'd say the jury is pretty much still out on that one. Maybe both. I really couldn't give an intelligent opinion on it.
Oh, well, you beat me to it. LOL!
You believe that a sexual behavior is genetic? Then you think George was born to "do" the family dog and cousin Ken was born to love dead Aunt Tildie, literally, and Horace can't keep his hands off children because sexual behavior is programmed when you're born?
I'm a Conservative and believe that people make choices for behavior. I don't make excuses for them.
None of the above applies. The person I was responding to said that "sodomites hate G-d" by their actions. Who the heck are any of us, to say that another sinner hates G-d because he sins. That is what I was responding to. That poster, along with the rest of us, sins, and his sins are no more attractive than a gay's sins, and none of them mean you hate the Almighty.
Of course gay pride is disgusting. That's not the point here.
1) They won't vote for conservative candidates (ala Ronald Reagan), they'll vote for RINOs who support the homosexual agenda (ala Rduy McRomney).
2) What else are you willing to run up the white flag on and surrender? If you're willing to surrender on homosexuality and Judeo-Christian beliefs, will you be willing to surrender on, say, gun rights tomorrow? Or border security/amnesty? Or how about letting your homo buddies adopt children? Caving in to the homo agenda on the misguided hope that they'll vote for conservative candidates is just as dumb as a freshman Congressman thinking the cute reporterette will be fair just because she made goo-goo eyes at him.
No more surrenders, no more cave-ins! If the so-called conservatives in this nation won't stand and fight figuratively now, we'll have to fight for real before long. Homosexuality is a line in the sand issue for conservatives.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
A Libertarian thinks a whore house across the street from an elementary school next to a liquor store is acceptable. It's a free country after all.
Agree. Ann is off her meds.
You are NUTS. Read my posts. I said I'd rather gay people vote with us than not. FReepers who would rather a gay person voted Democrat are anti-gay individuals, rather xenophobic, not anti-gay agenda. I am the latter.
The sodomites, the child molestors, the interspecies sex fans, all seek to have influence in whatever political party will have them. Just because they are mentally ill doesn’t mean they don’t want power and acceptance of their deviance.
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